A year or more back I read a book by a celebrity alternative health pioneer extolling the vital benefits of celery juice in supporting good thyroid health.
It all seemed a bit far out at the time, so did nothing. Well I bought an expensive juicer a few months back and created a celery smoothie with the following
2-3 stalks celery
Handful blue berries/ strawberries
Greek yoghurt
Protein powder
Almond milk
Sprinkle oats
Banana - optional
Take this as a late breakfast/brunch option.
Initially did it from time to time and now virtually every day it has been such a surprise success in so many ways.
There are claims for celery made in terms of anti inflammatory properties and these are hard to measure empirically- what I am thinking of doing is to take an antibody test in a couple of weeks and see if that has come down at all from the one done 3 years ago.
I am not really trying to prove any point with this - as for me it has been such a step forward health wise and I should have trusted the gentleman who wrote the famous book a bit sooner.
In any personal comments like this all the usual
Disclaimers apply for anyone else - eg yoghurt/protein does not work for some.
Just interested to know if anyone else is a daily celery juicing convert like me at this point.
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With so many ingredients, how do you know it's the celery having an effect?
And, what's the point of testing the antibodies? You do know they fluctuate, right? So, them being lower than three years ago means nothing. Plus, even if you got rid of them completely - which is not likely to happen - you would still have Hashi's. The level of antibodies is not an indicator of the severity of your Hashi's.
Not that I'm knocking celery. I love it! Don't know if it does you any good, but if you feel good consuming it, then good for you. But, you do have to stay realistic about it, and not put too much - or any! - faither in someone who calls himself 'The Medical Medium'! There are many, many posts on here about why you shouldn't trust him at all!
With some antibody tests, once a high number has been reached, the lab will simply not continue the process of getting an accurate number.
For example, if they have a lab ceiling of 1000, once their process gets there, they stop. An absolute, unqualified positive.
If they carried on, they might have reach 2000, 3000, 10,000 - who knows?
So comparison against an initial test which had a capped result is even less meaningful.
If someone had 1000 and now has 500, it gives no certainty that the levels have dropped by 50%. Could be they have dropped by 95%! There is more uncertainty in this situation than the numbers might appear to imply.
Add in different reference intervals, even different testing procedures, and the meaning of a drop from 1000 to 500 is even less certain.
Celery on its own I find slightly hideous so needs to be mixed up to be more palatable.
There is research that celery has strong anti inflammatory properties which I m sure everyone here has read so won’t repost.
I really did the smoothie as just about the only was I could enjoy eating large amounts of celery each day.
Why do I do that - because I strongly believe as an intuitive hunch it is what I need. No one can “prove” any thing scientifically but the benefits have been so positive when doing this every day for 3 months now - I am interested to know how others take celery.
I was careful not to mention the book writer’s name as he has his doubters - I just feel of all his ideas the celery juice is the only one that has “gripped me” from when I read the book all that while back.
My inflammation score was too high 3 years ago when I tested it.
I have been trying to develop a lifestyle/diet to keep it lower consistently. I think this may help - but my 3 month experiment does not prove causality I fully accept.
If others here are simply able to have the celery juice raw then they are braver souls than me
Then why not concentrate on inflammation levels and forget the antibodies. It's talking about antibodies and reducing them that makes the whole idea less credible.
And, you don't have to mention his name for everybody to know who he is! lol He's the only person to recommend celery juice as far as I know.
I wouldn't drink celery juice either. But, then, I don't like juice or smoothies. ugh! I take my celery neat, with a dab of salt on the side.
I don't. High antibodies are just an indication of Hashi's to me. I've seen nothing that convinces me that it's the antibodies causing the inflammation in Hashi's. But, that's just me. I would retest the CRP rather than the antibodies.
Grey goose, final point as I have never looked at CRP scores tbh - is it helpful to have lower CRP scores. Is there a link between CRP scores and general health. Simply not looked at this before.
Your smoothie sounds delicious. We see this celery juice thing mentioned every now and then, but I'm curious as to why celery juice is so important. I like celery and could happily eat two or three stalks a day as they are. Surely that would have the same beneficial effect (if indeed there is any to be had ) ?
I’m sure you are right - I simply could not eat two stalks a day raw as the taste is quite bitter to me. I accept for others who are more purist you must take in juice form only with no added extras for the full liver detox effect.
I am simply not that purist about it.
Research I don’t think is going to help us - I read a blog about a chap who took the celery juice every day for a month and felt fantastic - I could say I feel great taking my daily smoothies.
I actually hate smoothies because they make me gag but if it is making you feel better I would continue with it. Just to add I have very high Thyroglobulin antibodies they are 4000 and I have tried to lower them by taking different remedies but nothing I do has changed this. They actually don't reflect how I actually feel and it is the thyroid levels that actually count in my opinion.
Mine were I think very high at around 500 three years ago and I have a test to recheck this month. I take the point above I should think more of CRP data and you are saying something similar.
I did read a while back that some diet options like gluten free helped, but I have never really been convinced yet.
Sorry I meant to add I had a CRP of 9 which was like that for years and I tried different stuff to lower that as well but nothing worked. Strangely my last test showed it had dropped to 5 but my ferritin is still elevated which means I have inflamation in my body. At the moment I feel really well even though some of my blood results are not perfect. It just shows how different we all are.
Anyone of menopausal age who is using progesterone [which impacts thyroid] ,or who is perimenopausal, needs to be very careful of this - celery [particularly in these quantities and taken this regularly] BLOCKS PROGESTERONE . I used to eat a lot of celery thinking it to be "healthy" as it does have a lot of health benefits - I even used it as MM advised, to boost stomach acid, not knowing that being severely progesterone deficient I was sabotaging myself in the process. Like everything - one size does not fit all - what works well for one person could be extremely hazardous for another.
I'm sure it won't hurt , but i've always assumed , based on observing how plants grow that if you grow something in soil that is treated with 'whatever' , and spray it during growth with 'whatever'.... then the 'whatever ' will end up inside the plant rather than on the surface.
I don't think many things are sprayed onto plants after they are harvested , although i wouldn't put it past them !
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