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Glad to have joined. Am a 56 year old male diagnosed 6 years ago with UAT. It’s been a hellish journey and still not the person I was. Without going into the past I have a persistent dry cough. Been there on and off for those six years.

Of recent times, three months, it’s been more persistent. Chest X-rays and CT scan revealed nothing other than a hiatus hernia. That off track explains belshing and burping.

Question is a cough a worry for thyroid sufferers or a common occurrence. Thanks

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Marz profile image
Marz

Hi and Welcome ! I have read about Low B12 and coughing - do you know your level ? Also Folate - Ferritin and VitD can be low when Hypo.

Moisture levels can also be affected - so adequate water needed.

Do you have any thyroid test results to share ? Could be you are under medicated ...

What other meds are you taking ? - & how much levo ?

Heloise profile image
Heloise in reply toMarz

Marz you once recommended pure glycerin. Do you think it's still a possible recommendation?

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Marz in reply toHeloise

Yes you are right - thank you for the reminder. I bought a big bottle from Boots in the UK and it worked well for several people ! I think they had bugs of some sort. 😊

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Heloise in reply toMarz

Oh, I thought it might calm the irritation of the mucus membrane. It's good to soften sap from knot holes.....so if you still have some left, haha.

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Jeremy1 in reply toHeloise

What is that like to take?

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Marz in reply toJeremy1

Oily and soothing ! Its the main ingredient in cough syrups you buy. I bought an unlabelled bottle of glycerine onky - ask at the Pharmacy counter.

PiggySue profile image
PiggySue

It seems to be a sign that I am undermedicated. I also have a gravelly morning voice when undermedicated.

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loueldhen

Gluten free? I had a cough for 6 months. Went gluten free (grain free) and cough and years of nighttime indigestion went in a few days.

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Marymary7 in reply toloueldhen

My Mums persistent terrible indigestion pains went when she gave up smoking? Who would of thought. I had persistent sinus infections for years until I was treated with Thyroxine.

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SlowDragonAdministrator

Gluten or dairy intolerance. Both are extremely common with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's)

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

Hashimoto's affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common.

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies

Ideally ask GP for coeliac blood test first

amymyersmd.com/2017/02/3-im...

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

scdlifestyle.com/2014/08/th...

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Low stomach acid common, especially if under medicated. You mention hiatus hernia. Are you on any PPI's- omeprazole, Lansoprazole or similar. These are for high stomach acid, not low acid and don't help

Low stomach acid can be common an issue

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/hypochl...

scdlifestyle.com/2012/03/3-...

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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Other things to help heal gut lining

Bone broth

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Vegetarian broth

wallflowerkitchen.com/gut-h...

yogajournal.com/practice/as...

Probiotics and fermented foods like sauerkraut or kefir

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Marymary7 in reply toSlowDragon

Excellent work SlowDragon. And PPI meds also cause B12 deficiency.

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jgelliss in reply toSlowDragon

SlowDragon

I was going to post on another thread that was closed talking about Gluten Free . I want to say that how Very Grateful and Thankful I am to you for tirelessly talking and educating us about Gluten Dairy Soy Sugar free diet and it's Great Benefits . What a TREAMANDIOUS DIFFERANCE it has made in my life and I'm sure in many many countless other thyroid patients too . Granted I will say that at first it's Not Easy . But Persistence Prevails .

KODOS SD !!! FOR Reinforcing The Gluten Free Message Day In Day Out .

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Jeremy1 in reply toSlowDragon

Yes recently on PPI’s Not sure if they are helping. Diet seems to effect a better control

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toJeremy1

PPI's could be making the issue

Most thyroid patients have LOW stomach acid

PPI used to treat HIGH stomach acid.

Same symptoms, completely different treatment.

This is probably even more misdiagnosed that thyroid!

See my links about low stomach acid in previous reply

Over 5000 posts on here about low stomach acid here

healthunlocked.com/search/l...

Gluten free diet likely of benefit or absolutely essential and improving vitamins to optimal definitely essential

Di588 profile image
Di588

Hi Jeremy, Have you explored the possibility of post nasal drip? I am also UAT (hashi), and have PND. Doctors gave me sprays but it didn't work. I'm sure there is a connection between UAT and PND.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toDi588

PND can be very often linked to dairy intolerance. Have you tried dairy free?

schoolafm.com/ws_clinical_k...

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Jeremy1 in reply toDi588

Haven’t gone dairy free

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silverfox7

Welcome! I tend to cough if meds not quite right.

Have you are results you can post and then we can comment? Please put the rangers as well as they differ from lab to lab so without them we should just be guessing.

There is often sone fine tuning to be done but doctors aren't helpful with that!

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Jeremy1 in reply tosilverfox7

Phoned GP today. See her on Monday and will collect and post results

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NtombiSA

Hi Jeremy....yes, I have had a persistent cough for years, but never associated it with my thyroid. I know for a fact that milk and bread cause excess mucus in my sinus and chest, and once I cut down or eliminated those foods, my coughing has almost disappeared. Hope this helps.

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Mrob00

I agree with all of the above I cured my cough of 15vyears by cutting out wheat and dairy

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Fruitandnutcase

Agree with all suggestions above too. As an outside chance you’re not an undiagnosed asthmatic - I start to cough if I haven’t been disciplined in using my brown inhaler - and also you’re not by any chance taking lisinopril for high blood pressure are you? That gives a lot of people a cough.

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mauschen

I would suggest you request spirometry. You might need a referal to the respiratory clinic however, some local doctors have these facilities.

A persistent cough should always be checked out. Are you taking Ramipril for blood pressure control?

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Jeremy1 in reply tomauschen

No blood pressure management at all.

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mauschen in reply toJeremy1

A persistent cough can be caused by many things. I suggest you start working with your GP to eliminate some of the nastier causes, without a doubt get your lung function checked and a cardiac echo would be another test I would push for.

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mstp

My Mum had a cough that seemed to be related to eating and drinking. When she went into hospital for the final time we discovered it was because the liquids were aggravating her throat. They thickened what they gave her and it seemed to do the trick.

Heloise profile image
Heloise

Hi Jeremy, Good advice so not much to add. Make sure your FT3 is higher in the range.

Are you taking a blood pressure pill that ends in il? Do you have silent reflux which means you may have low acid (very common with low thyroid). Both can be the cause. Also beta blockers can restrain the heart and heart failure has this symptom but doubtful after five years or you would have other problems as well.

I've also been interested in the vagus nerve which runs very close to the palate and goes to most organs in the body. It is very susceptible to high cortisol which we may have. The vagus is called the rest and digest nerve. The idea that it's a war between the sympathetic and parasympathetic states are the basic for most chronic problems. A doctor said this twenty years ago and now many doctors are agreeing that staying in a sympathetic state creates disease.

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Jeremy1 in reply toHeloise

Very informative

LAHs profile image
LAHs

What's a UAT?

Heloise profile image
Heloise in reply toLAHs

Hi LAHS, I think in this case it means under active thyroid.

LAHs profile image
LAHs in reply toHeloise

Thanks Heloise, thanks, you are great! I read all of the posts and it didn't define, I even read PND! But I worked that one out finally, lol.

Guys, spell out your abbreviations first time, then it's OK. Like this:

"I have post nasal drip (PND)" and then refer to it as PND. That's how it is done.

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Heloise in reply toLAHs

I agree!

Marz profile image
Marz in reply toLAHs

PND - can sometimes be - Post Natal Depression 😊

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toMarz

Thanks Marz, have added that (post-natal depression) to my abbreviations and Acronyms document. :-) Can't believe it wasn't already in there - but your response made me check.

dropbox.com/s/og3lmxa1dqadb...

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LAHs in reply toMarz

And there you are folks, spell out your abbreviations. I was close, but no banana. Drip, Depression I don't have either especially depression up my nose lol.

Di588 profile image
Di588 in reply toLAHs

LAHs

I think I did spell it out -

Hi Jeremy, Have you explored the possibility of post nasal drip?

Conquerlove profile image
Conquerlove

Not alone, as I as well deal with persistent cough...have other allergies and never guessed could be foods as well. Just recently dealing with Low thyroid issues and want deal with it naturally if possible. Have always wondered why I have so many issues in my body...learning about Hashimoto's.

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Jeremy1

Can I just say a big thanks to all who replied to my first post. A knowledgeable lot I see.

It’s encouraging when you hear from others.... when I complain to those who don’t realise the impact it can have on your life....total bewildered oozes from their expressions

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Heloise in reply toJeremy1

I think that bewilderment also includes doctors. Autoimmunity is not really addressed in medical school but functional doctors are getting quite educated and I think they are mostly chiropractors or nutritionists and pharmacists like Izabella Wentz. There are quite a few experts in the field and they all have websites or you tube lectures. John Bergman is a favorite on you tube and understands anatomy and organ function. We had a series called the Broken Brain and they find that the brain is very involved with autoimmune conditions so any neurological issues can be a symptom. I don't understand why doctors don't just check antibodies to see exactly is being attacked similar to TPO or THG for thyroid. There is a great deal to learn Jeremy so stay with it and you will figure it out.

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