Trusted sources for t3

[Tradoc]

Any trusted sources for t3 and how to use on 100 of levo please pm me

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Looking at your previous post, you should optimise your nutrient levels before considering adding T3.

Vit D and B12 certainly need attention, ferritin not bad but could do with a nudge up.

[Tradoc in reply to SeasideSusie]

thanks any suggestions on brands etc. my doc now thinks im perimenpausal and shouldn't think i should waste £200 on a private endo

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Tradoc]

Tradoc

Ferritin 68.2 13 - 150 ug/L

Eating liver will nudge this up, you wont even need all that much. Maybe once a fortnight, around 120g or so. Liver is a super food and contains lots of vitamins too. Include lots of iron rich foods in your diet as well apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/in...

Vitamin D (25 OH) L 36 Deficient

The Vit D Council recommends a level of 100-150nmol/L. A level below 30 would be treated by the NHS with loading doses. Your GP may or may not prescribe anything, and could possibly only give you 800iu daily. It probably would be best to deal with this yourself.

I would suggest starting with 10,000iu daily for 2 weeks (140,000iu) then 5000iu daily for 4 weeks (140,000iu) so that would give close to the loading dose. Then reduce to 5000iu alternate days. Retest 3 months after starting. If only Vit D needs testing then you can do a fingerprick blood spot test with City Assays for £29 vitamindtest.org.uk/

When you've reached the recommended level then you'll need a maintenance dose which may be 2000iu daily, maybe more or less, maybe more in winter, less in summer, it's trial and error so it's recommended to retest twice a year to keep within the recommended range.

There are important cofactors needed when taking D3

vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds.

Magnesium helps D3 to work and comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

Check out the other cofactors too.

You have a couple of options for D3. BetterYou comes in D3 only or D3/K2-MK7 combination which you might prefer as it's one less supplement to bother with. Dose is 3000iu so you'd need to alter 10,000iu to 9000iu and 5000iu to 6000iu, following timings above, then check levels.

As you don't appear to have Hashi's (but can't be confirmed one way or another) you could use D3 softgels which are very cheap. Look at Doctor's Best, they are very reasonably priced and come in different doses but get the 5000iu ones and follow dosing as above bodykind.com/product/2463-b...

For a good K2-MK7 softgel look at Healthy Origins bigvits.co.uk/product.php?p... (they do a smaller 60 count pot but this one is best value)

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Vitamin B12 357

I have read (but not researched so don't have links) that BCSH, UKNEQAS and NICE guidelines recommend:

"In the presence of discordance between test results and strong clinical features of deficiency, treatment should not be delayed to avoid neurological impairment." You can check for signs here b12deficiency.info/signs-an... and if you do have any you need to speak to your GP for further testing.

If no signs of B12 deficiency then you need to increase your level. An extract from the book, "Could it be B12?" by Sally M. Pacholok:

"We believe that the 'normal' serum B12 threshold needs to be raised from 200 pg/ml to at least 450 pg/ml because deficiencies begin to appear in the cerebrospinal fluid below 550".

"For brain and nervous system health and prevention of disease in older adults, serum B12 levels should be maintained near or above 1000 pg/ml."

Supplementing with sublingual methylcobalamin lozenges 1000mcg will raise your level. Jarrows do one, as does Cytoplan.

When taking B12 we need a B Complex to balance all the B vitamins. I like Thorne Basic B. SlowDragon likes Igennus Super B.

Serum Folate 23.10 8.83 - 60.8 nmol/L

This should be half way through it's range and the B Complex will nudge that up as it contains methylfolate.

[Tradoc in reply to SeasideSusie]

hi would i just get the vit b complex instead on just b12 or both . thank you

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Tradoc]

You need both at the moment. The amount of B12 contained in a B Complex isn't enough to raise your level so as suggested get some sublingual methylcobalamin 1000mcg, plus one of the B Complex supplements mentioned and dose that according to instructions on the bottle.

[Tradoc in reply to SeasideSusie]

thank you so much, you have been very helpful

[SlowDragon Administrator]

It will take at least 6-8 weeks minimum to improve vitamins, may be a bit longer

T3 and T4 both need good vitamins to work

[Tradoc in reply to SlowDragon]

i take a high omega 3 does that not contain vitd and a?

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Tradoc]

It probably contains some. Typically about 1000iu, it should say on label.

To improve levels you may need 3000-5000iu daily. Everyone's different in how much they need, how much they absorb from food, how much they make from sunshine

Suggest you either buy 1000iu spray and do two or three sprays per day. Or buy 3000iu and try one spray per day.

Retest in 2-3 months via vitamindtest.org.uk £29

Also try to get 10-15 mins sunshine April to Oct, no suncream

Restesting twice yearly. Once you get level up around 100nmol you will then need maintenance dose to keep it that way. Trial & error what you need

Eg I needed 6000iu daily to improve, (took about a year) once I got to required level, I reduced dose to 2000iu (over winter) Level dropped a lot (too much) so I am now back on 5000iu to improve plus sunshine

Once back to 100nmol I will try 3000iu plus sun as maintenance in summer. Perhaps 4000iu in winter. But I have bad Hashimoto's and poor/little absorption from food.

[Tradoc in reply to SlowDragon]

thank you. its more my mental health thats suffering. i have booked the DR AU in belfast for 6 weeks time so I still have the option to see him or not. I have ordered a Vit d with k2 spray and a vit b complex

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Tradoc]

Low vitamin D can affect mental health. Low mood, poor sleep etc

[Tradoc in reply to SlowDragon]

thank you. you have been a great hep with everyone else. i at the moment have one freezing cold hand and one normal temp. this seems to happen to me a lot at hte minute. i get warm parts over my body and cold parts