I am new to thuis forum but wondered if anyone could throw any light on why my thyroid test results are as follows
TSH 1.99
T4 Total 97.6
Free T4 16
Free T3 4.38
Now all of these are within a normal limit but the following are high
Anti-thyroidperoxidase abs 92.5 (HIGH)
Anti-thyroidglobulin abs 548 (HIGH)
My vitamin D levels were 25 (DEFICIENT)
VITAMIN B12 246 (INSUFFICIENT)
I am really more interested as to why its showing my thyroid function is ok but why are the anti immune so high?
My cholesterol has also just come back as high(but I am aware that the stress & my diet over the last year have not been good so am making waves to get that down).
I am 56 but had a really early menopause so think that is not helping.
Any suggestions please
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Having raised anti-bodies indicates Hashimotos - or auto-immune thyroiditis. If you are on a PC then there is lots of reading linked to Hashimotos to the right of your post - or go to the main website of this forum and have a read
Your VitD needs supplementing and needs to be around 100 and B12 would be better at the very least - over 500. No result for Folate and Ferritin - which are also quite important.
Raised cholesterol often goes hand in hand with being Hypo. When I was diagnosed with Hashimotos back in 2005 - my Thyroid Function test results were also in range - however the anti-bodies were sky high. I was then started on T4.
What has your GP done to help you ? - Do you have any symptoms ? Any other medications ? Taking supplements ? I am thinking your tests were done privately - has your GP seen them ?
Auto-immunity often starts with the gut - so you could try being gluten free to see if this reduces the anti-bodies. So much to read and learn - so reading the thousands of other posts here should help
Yes it was a thyroid test with blue horizon as dr did a thyroid test but said within normal range- she also did the cholesterol test(not fasting one ) and phoned me to say she thinks I have familial hypocholesterolemia as my cholesterol over 8 & put me on 80mg atorvastatin!!!!
She didnt want to know about my symptoms or the fact that high cholesterol doesnt run in my family but wanted to refer me to a consultant who specialises in the above.
I really feel she is missing something & have just booked a complete well woman blood test online which will include a fasting cholesterol, thyroid etc etc. It is being done on wednesday.
Thanks so much for help- all my symptoms of lethargy, aching muscles, etc all fit with an underactive thyroid but doctors seemed obsessed with cholesterol & statins.
Your Ferritin and Folate look fine even without the ranges. We need the ranges as labs do vary - so I am guessing all is well
Do ask your GP what she intends doing about your LOW VitD ? There are Guidelines she should follow. Also ask her to show you research that Statins work for women - or anyone come to that. GP's are well rewarded for prescribing Statins.
You need to be taking at least 5000 IU's of VitD along with the co-factors Magnesium and VitK2-MK7. Your GP will not be familiar with a treatment protocol that is talked about here on a daily basis ! Also VitD is an anti-inflammatory - steroidal - pro-hormone - so much more than a vitamin.
I would also take 5000 mcg Jarrow Methycobalamin B12 lozenges - from Amazon - keep under the tongue until dissolved. Also you will need a good B complex to keep all the B's in balance.
The side effects of a statin are not good so do your research. You do not need one - Statins are written about here on a regular basis. Cholesterol is much needed in the body for the formation of all hormones and of course the brain - which is over 25% cholesterol. With Alzheimers and Dementia on the increase - it would not be too difficult to join up the dots and point the finger at Statins !
Please go to the website of Dr Malcolm Kendrick and look at his videos on YouTube and read his book - The Cholesterol Con. Cholesterol does not cause a heart attack. I have loads of links I can post for you - including the one that shows that statins actually cause atherosclerosis ! Also research showing that people dying in hospital have low cholesterol.
Your Hashimotos needs treating - to support the thyroid whilst under attack from the anti-bodies. In days before Thyroid Testing - back in the 70's - anyone with raised cholesterol had their thyroids treated ! Also check out Homocysteine - much more of an indication if raised, of a heart event or stroke. Often raised when B12 is LOW in the cells.
I could write more - but do not want to bore you ! You can click onto my name above and then Click Posts and scroll through - over the years I have done a few on Statins.
Some of your symptoms are linked to Low VitD and Low B12 .....
Thank you so much for all of your advice- it is so nice to talk to someone who understands the way I have been feeling. I am booking another appointment with a different dr to show the results of the blood test which shows very high antibodies. I hope he will look at the link to my cholesterol -low vit d & vit B12 & treat me accordingley , but I am not holding my breath!!!
If your GP trip is not successful - then come back to the forum and people will guide you. You can research the VitD treatment protocol for your area on-line so you will be one step ahead of the GP They also like to ignore anti-bodies and often say - treatment is the same. They do not understand how to advise patients with auto-immune issues. Selenium - gluten free and lots more besides.
I live in Crete so have always taken care of my own health - reading and learning from books/websites and of course here where I have been for over 6 years. I was diagnosed here in Crete and once I had enough information I have taken care of myself.
Well worth trying a gluten free diet for a few weeks and see if you notice an improvement in your symptoms, you would be amazed at how many symptoms are associated with gluten sensitivity. My daughter suffers from fatigue, aching muscles and severe depression every time she deviates from her gluten free diet.
Your doctor didn't want to know about your symptoms because she knows nothing about symptoms. And I'm sure she was thrilled to bits to be able to put you on statins, because she gets perks for prescribing those! She won't get any perks for diagnosing you as Hashi's/hypo!
You do not need statins, they won't do anything good for you, and they might do something very bad. You do not need to reduce your cholesterol. High cholesterol is a symptom, not a disease. And it has nothing to do with your diet. Cholesterol is made in the liver, and the liver makes vast quantities of it. What you eat is just a drop in the ocean compared to what the liver makes. Plus, if you eat less cholesterol, the liver will just make more. Because you need cholesterol. Your brain is mostly made of cholesterol, so are cell walls and sex hormones. And, most important of all, high cholesterol does not cause heart attacks and strokes, as your doctor would have you believe, but the statins just might!
Your TSH is only slightly high at the moment. But, because you have Hashi's, it might have been higher last week or the week before. Levels tend to jump around with Hashi's. Can't tell you about the other results because you haven't put the ranges - please, always put ranges when you post blood test results.
So, you need to keep an eye on this, and test quite often. You're obviously not going to get much help from your doctor - that normal, I'm afraid - so you have got to learn about your own disease and help yourself. So, keep on reading here, and asking questions, and then when you're TSH rises, or your Free levels drop, you'll be prepared.
I was given statins (sinvastatiin - which I have since gathered is the bargain basement statin on offer!) years ago and felt really ill very quickly. My muscles were so bad I could barely walk and I felt really depressed - had the urge to curl up in a corner and shut my eyes to block the world out. I stopped them after about two weeks and haven’t take notice them since.
I read afterwards that there is some sort of test that doctors can do to predict whether or not your muscles will be affected by statins - I don’t know if it’s true and even if it is I wouldn’t take them again but if you decide to take them it might be worth checking that out.
Well I was given them to take but have no intention of taking them as I feel they are barking up the wrong tree. I have no family history of high cholesterol -the dr seemed obsessed with this asking if anyone in my family had heart problems to which I answered yes as my dad had many heart problems over the years -but all due to the fact he smoked 40 cigarettes a day!! His cholesterol was always low.
I feel they shell out statins willy nilly so am going back to another dr with my results to see what they say about the raised anti bodies.
I will also follow the brilliant advice that I have had from Marz & Grey goose.
Hi, I am not on any medication at all- only saw the dr about 3 weeks ago -she tested for thyroid but said was within normal range-she had also done my cholesterol(non fasting) & told me it was really high, hence she issued me with statin @ 80mg to get it down quickly & has referred me to a heart specialist who deals with familial hypercholesterolemia. i had thyroid test with blue horizon done which included the antibodies, vit d etc & the in house dr at blue horizon commented on the high antibodies mentioning hashimotos. Also said I was severely deficient in vit d & deficient in B12. I mentioned this to her & she said it wasnt unusual to be vit d deficient in uk.
So I am going to book another appointment and put forward my case for hashimotos- but dont hold out much hope from shifting her way of thinking(if in doubt statins!!)
Cholesterol blood test without fasting? Doc didn't want to know about your symptoms? If possible get a change of docs please!
You are right about the early menopause onset. It does take away the heart protective benefits of estrogen. Which means u'll have to pay more attention to what you're eating
Well I have had a private FASTING cholesterol test done & guess what it is:
Cholesterol 4 Optimum >5
HDL Cholesterol 2 1.2 - 1.7(the doctors comment was that this is good)
HDL OF TOTAL 50 20 and over
LDL cholesterol 1.7 up to 3
Non HDL Cholesterol 2 < 3.9
My B12 was high 1589 197-771 Probably because I have been supplementing
Also LDH elevated 253 135-214
So my cholesterol is normal!!!! & that is without taking the 80mg statin the dr told me to take. I have just literally cut the crappy food out of m,y diet.
Although I am really feeling crappy at the moment with acid reflux , heartburn, indigestion, pain in throat & generally achey. Probably due to the antibody flare up I suppose.
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