SIBO: akin to leaky gut; Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth. Difficult to treat, though found info on Lugol's Iodine? Can we do iodine?

[Poppy_the_cat]

Now considering the possibility of having SIBO as well.. Looked it up on line. Found references to Lugol's Iodine.

Iodine, the double edged sword. Do we or don't we...yet we get told to eat seaweed?

I am confused, fed up, not feeling well and seriously running out if patience.

My bowel consultant acts as if there's all the time in the world! Two attempts at an abdominal ultrasound sound scan have failed due to my having too much pain! This 'attempt' started last October!. Fed up with her slow, ineffective response I have asked to transferred to another hospital.. Swindon. Here the wait to see somebody is up to mid May!! I shall be dead by then!

So this is what I found on a search having seen Lugol's mentioned.

"To Iodine or not to iodine, that is the question" Any thoughts wise people?

LUGOL'S IODINE SOLUTION

Iodine is a trace mineral that occurs naturally in the environment and is essential to the human body. We mostly depend on food to provide the iodine we need. Scientific studies have discovered that if we don't get enough iodine, it can reduce the capability of our organs, and lead to a host of different problems including goiter, muscle pain, reduced alertness, dry mouth, dry skin and even certain types of cancer.

In addition, these studies have found that the stimulation of hormonal activity, control of the body's base metabolic rate, the maintenance of optimal energy levels, the formation of healthy skin, the flushing out of chemical toxins, and a general boosting of the immune system are some of the potential benefits from having good iodine levels and a balanced and healthy thyroid gland.

One of the most important organs in the body that needs iodine for proper functioning is the thyroid gland. An iodine deficiency can prevent tissues in the body from functioning efficiently, and in turn, stop your thyroid gland from producing two of the hormones it needs: thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3). Once this happens, thyroid functioning deteriorates quickly. Even though iodine deficiency is not the only reason that hypothyroidism can occur, increasing your intake of this mineral can stimulate the hormonal activity that will help you on the road to becoming your healthiest.

There is now a reliable way to make sure you are getting just the amount of iodine you need with our Lugol's Iodine Solution 2%. This product has been authorized for human consumption and is GMP laboratory manufactured under strict North American guidelines. This combination is what differentiates our Lugol's Iodine Solution from the rest. Providing customers with the highest-quality product is our manufacturer's priority. Every drop they manufacture is made from premium quality ingredients sourced from around the world. The iodine originates from Chile, and is in extremely rare prilled form and of pharmaceutical grade. The potassium iodide in the product is manufactured from iodine and not kelp, originates from North America, and meets the highest pharmaceutical standards.

[Angel_of_the_North]

It depends. Some naturopaths and alternative practitioners are very keen on iodine, while others advise against it for people with thyroid problems who are not actually deficient. I don't think there is conclusive evidence either way. If you decide to use it, you probably wan to do it under the guidance of an alternative practitioner who is skilled in its use.

[helvella]

I'd rather read about iodine where there is no product being sold.

Can anyone actually tell me why the source of iodine is so important? Standards for pharmaceutical idoine require distillation and produce very high purity iodine. Not at all convinced anyone could tell the difference after distillation.

[RedApple]

Poppy_the_cat

Chris Kresser, who often writes about SIBO, says it's one of the most challenging conditions to treat. I don't know his thoughts on iodine, but worth a read through his info if you haven't already. chriskresser.com/?s=sibo

And if you haven't considered candida overgrowth, look into that too. Again Kresser is a good start point. chriskresser.com/?s=candida

As you imply, we could all die waiting for conventional medics to sort out our problems.

[Poppy_the_cat in reply to RedApple]

Thank-you.

Yes Chris Kresser is a star. It was as a tangent from his site that I found Lugol's. I shall check your link out'

Yes, I am aware of Candida and am currently n a course of Flucanazole, the second month to be exact.

Thank-you😃

Poppy the 🐈

[RedApple in reply to Poppy_the_cat]

If you have candida, it's likely that anti-fungals won't help in the long term. Someone I know was diagnosed with MS over twenty years ago. She became progressively worse, ending up wheelchair bound, unable to do anything much at all for herself. Recently she decided to investigate the recommendations of Ann Boroch who believes that Yeast overgrowth is the root of many health issues, including MS.

Over the last couple of years, the person I know has improved so dramatically by following a very, very strict dietary regime. She's now out of her wheelchair, and totally convinced that candida has always been her problem and that she was wrongly diagnosed with MS.

I'm not recommending anything here, just passing on something in case it's of help to you or anyone else reading annboroch.com

[Silver_Fairy in reply to Poppy_the_cat]

Have you adjusted your diet too, because of the candida? No good treating it if your diet is high in sugar.

[Poppy_the_cat in reply to Silver_Fairy]

Thanks, I do indeed avoid sugar at all costs, even to the extent of only eating potatoes when they are cold the next day that the carbohydrate sugars alter.

Any advice more than welcome.

Thank you.

Poppy

[Silver_Fairy in reply to Poppy_the_cat]

Silica is meant to help with candida. Ive used Oregano capsules which seemed to help, garlic which didnt.

[RedApple]

reallyfedup123,

Not heard about boron... but prunes? Really? Are you sure? They are loaded with sugar, so seems like an absolute no,no for candida.

[Poppy_the_cat]

I had heard of Boron as being very important but could not remember where or when.. However, funny that you should mention it, because in an attempt to rescue something from a totally disastrous visit to a Nutritionist yesterday, I asked her about Boron? I mentioned it and asked about it and her reply was tepid to say the least, saying that Selenium was far more important and that I "should not worry about Boron"... It was a totally useless session and a waste of saved up money about which I feel very angry indeed.

As usual it's all down to us, we have to do the work of others and like Chris Kresser says 'become our own citizen doctors!'

Many thanks, muchly 😉

Poppy the 🐈

[Poppy_the_cat]

Will boron affect Probiotic Kefir in any way per chance?

[RedApple]

Prunes are still sugar laden, organic or not. They are after all, dried plums and all fruit is high in sugars. Anything high in carbs surely cannot be helpful for candida, regardless of how much boron they contain.

[Poppy_the_cat]

I am beginning to think I have stumbled upon something pretty massive with the boron and the magnesium protocol...trouble is being the 🐻 of little brain, I can't brake it all on board...so much to take in and I'm still in so much pain I can't take a proper breath it hurts too much... Every time I think I'm getting a handle on things, something else comes along...

Poppy

[Cooper27]

I would consider getting some tests before embarking on a SIBO diet, I thought this article was useful: sibodiaries.com/2016/06/24/...

[Poppy_the_cat]

Bless u... that wld be great, but right now I am in such pain after the peak of the inflammatory response, the stabbing in my side is so bad I can hardly draw breath. Am not going to A+E. That's flat...never had such severe response..must rest hopefully bed will be good. Will write back properly tomorrow. Got very upset with strange Nutritionist woman yesterday.'cld be massive cortisol overload on top of everything else... spk tomorrow.

Popps xx

[Poppy_the_cat]

I have finished my data allowance, so will reply to you tomorrow, from my brother's. I have rotated a rib hence the pain preventing me from breathing problem, but it's better than yesterday thankfully.

Thank you again as your help is immensely appreciated.

Poppy 😃x

[Poppy_the_cat]

Hi, thank-you so much for offering to help me, it is much appreciated.

You have asked me to list what it is that I eat and how I cook and prepare it.

I thought I would first of all start with the things that I cannot eat to which I am highly allergic.

1/ Wheat and gluten

2/ British Cow Dairy, even unpasteurised!

3/ Soya

4/ Legumes: lentils, beans, chickpeas, peas etc..

5/ Celery

6/ Fennel

7/ Bok Choi

8/ Mustard

9/ Gluten free Coucous

10/ Lamb

11/ Prawns- treated with Sodium Monosulphite.

I also react adversely to pretty much every new medication that Drs try to give me, just as a general aside.

I am Welsh on my Ma's side and Catalan on my father's side. He too could never cope with British cow dairy even when I was a child.

Our diet is essentially Mediterranean based.

If I cook anything fried in the pan, I use coconut oil.

Example;

I make a Catalan dish using cod/haddock, sealed in gluten free flour, (as sadly they remove the skin so it would stick in the pan), cooked in coconut oil, with garlic, pepper, tomato sauce and peppers cut into long strips.

Tuna & Goats cheese salad; (tinned tuna olive oil), French goat's cheese, bed of lettuce, finely chopped onions, small baby tomatoes, salt, olive oil and organic balsamic (no sulphites).

Quinoa cooked, and flavoured with salt.

Served with tinned sardines tomato sauce/olive oil, sardines include skins and bones..with added sliced baby tomatoes.

Stir Fry;

Cooked in coconut oil.

Chopped, sliced, carrots, red peppers, red onions, loads of ginger, lots of garlic, spring onions...and rice cooked the day before to allow the starch to alter...

Potatoes also eaten the day after cooking in order to allow the crystalline structure of the starch to change (hope I have explained it correctly).

Gluten-free porridge with almond milk.

Macadamias with sultanas as a snack.

Avocados as snacks.

Real coconut with the milk from it, as a handy snack.

Gluten-free Nairn's oatcakes with goats cheese, or manchego cheese (ewe based), black olives, spring onions.

Also I can French cow dairy "Le Président" butter on the little oatcakes...

A roast chicken only at weekends.

This is a snapshot of some of the things I can eat.

My latest attack was due to having tried an experiment. After having been on coconut water for 3 months I thought I would try unpasteurised cow dairy for a milk kefir. Despite having read that highly allergic people can tolerate unpasteurised, it seems it does not work for me. My response has been very bad, in fact each response seems more severe. While being so incredibly bloated and swollen, suffering huge inflammation, I think that I was so uncomfortable, while turning whilst laying down across the back seat in the car for feeling sick, I must have wrenched something and rotated a rib. My brother has experience of physiotherapy as he looks after his wife and has done a course for it. Having done it once before 30 years ago, I know he is right. Though at the time for being so swollen I even thought 'that's it, this time I have ruptured something!!!' It was very alarming on Wednesday... It's easing a bit now. I can breathe a little better a little deeper, but sleeping is still hard...and I have managed to eat breakfast for the first time since Monday.

Though feeling physically very wobbly, I am beginning to feel a little better.

Of course I take my coconut water based Kefir religiously.

For doing so, I find recently that I am starting to benefit from better absorption because for the first time EVER, I am responding very positively to any vitamin supplement that I take, in a way that I never have before...or at least not for decades!

I hope I have answered your question with your very kind offer of help.

Poppy

[Poppy_the_cat]

Sorry, I cook in metal pots, a steel wok and one pan that Tefal covered ..

[Poppy_the_cat]

I knew about aluminium, my grandfather told us that back in the 70's..' I knew tefal was not that good, but did not know that it was coated vwith flouride.

Any other tips? Don't have cling film in the house...or use foil... anything else?

Thank you.

Poppy 😃