Thyroid-S

Is anyone taking Thyroid-S and feeling well on it? I am considering trying NDT but nervous on stearing away from GP led Levo prescription.

[Katepots]

Yes I take it and feel better than I have in years.

GP's don't give a damn about or or know much about the thyroid at all. It is studied for only two weeks at medical school so it's like going to a primary school and asking the children about your finances!

[Hidden in reply to Katepots]

Thank you, this is so encouraging. How do you know how much to take? I currently take 100mcg of Levo, how would I convert that dosage to grains?

[Katepots in reply to Hidden]

So I read from somewhere else that most ndt has about 9 mcg t3 and 38 mcg t4 per 60 mcg tablet. 3 x 60 mcg tablets would give you 27 mcg t3. and 114 of t4.

Probably best to start on 60 mcg. ( a grain). And increase by half a grain every few weeks till you feel better.

I take 120mcg and was on 100mg of Levo too (so ill on that) but some days if I feel really tired or my eyelashes start to fall out (first sign of hypo for me) then I take an extra 60mg. I think I'll average eventually alternate days of 120 & 180mcgs

Be prepared for an initial slump, I was very hypo for a few weeks until I got my levels right. Worth it though, I've lost weight am not exhausted and have a brain (mostly!) 😀

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Thanks Katepots, so grateful for your advice. Desperate to get back to my previous healthy weight and rid the fatigue, brain fog and muggy type headaches.

[CSmithLadd in reply to Hidden]

Katepots' advice is excellent.

No doubt NDT should be perfect for you! Also, keep in mind that it is imperative to keep your vitamins and minerals up to par. Read up on what vitamins and minerals are needed to facilitate conversion of T4 into the active thyroid hormone T3.

The weight will come off after you get enough thyroid hormone in your cells. I found it very helpful to keep track of my body temperature. When it is low, your metabolism isn't working optimally. Taking NDT will help increase your body temperature. When it remains normal for over a week, usually you will begin to lose weight.

Mercury thermometers are the best. The digital ones are not accurate and they are not consistent. If you find one that is... please let me know! I'm convinced that digital thermometers were invented so that no doctor would ever know there are those of us with low temperatures screaming for more thyroid hormone!

You're on your way to feeling much, much better.

Hugs!

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CSmithLadd, many thanks for your thoughts, I will be sure to try and get a thermometer. I have started taking vits A, B complex, D12, E, C zinc, selenium, and an adrenal support supplement. Hoping this is adequate.

[CSmithLadd in reply to Hidden]

Thank you so much, twinmommy. Two suggestions: The first one is that you must take copper along with zinc. The best way is to purchase a copper/zinc combination vitamin.

I believe you meant to type "B12" instead of "D12." Please make sure the B12 you take is readily available and easy to absorb: Methylcobalamin spray is ideal.

saveourbones.com/how-to-get...

Second suggestion: Have you checked your Vitamin D levels? Most hypothyroid individuals also are very deficient in Vitamin D.

The Vitamin D Council recommends we take Vitamin D3, not D2. D3 is most like the vitamins we get from the sun, rather than being plant oriented as Vitamin D2. Vitamin D3 is best absorbed by being 500% faster than D2. You'll find other benefits clearly explained at the article below, found on Dr. Mercola's website.

"According to the Vitamin D Council:

"... To my knowledge, these papers are the first to paint such a clear picture about the efficacy between D3 and D2.

While there may be explanations for D3's superiority other than improved efficacy, for the time being, these papers send doctors a message: use D3, not D2."

Dr. Mercola states: "According to the latest research, D3 is approximately 87 percent more potent in raising and maintaining vitamin D concentrations and produces 2- to 3-fold greater storage of vitamin D than does D2.

Regardless of which form you use, your body must convert it into a more active form, and vitamin D3 is converted 500 percent faster than vitamin D2.

Vitamin D2 also has a shorter shelf life, and its metabolites bind poorly with proteins, further hampering its effectiveness."

Source: articles.mercola.com/sites/...

Also make sure that the Vitamin A you take is Retinol, made from fruits (berries). Beta-carotene is not what you need, as it needs to be converted. Retinol does not have to be converted.

onlineholistichealth.com/be...

You're off to a very good start with your vitamins. I suggest you also read the article below which includes some great extracts for optimal thyroid function. Remember to always make sure you have the most bioavailable vitamins that do not need conversion and that are easily absorbed.

lifeextension.com/protocols...

Many feel differently, but iodine is highly important to the body and most are also iodine deficient. Thyroid hormones contain iodine so if you are taking those, then I'd suggest having your iodine levels checked to be sure extra is needed. The body uses iodine for many things.

To me, it's not an opinion issue. You either need more iodine or you do not. At the second article you will find that the lack of iodine causes major symptoms of hypothyroidism. It is one and the same. Western civilization denies there is an epidemic of iodine deficient in their populations.

There are many reasons for this, including only adding enough iodine to salt to prevent goiter and not to prevent hypothyroidism. All very interesting and gives you a bigger picture of what your body needs and why we all should know exactly what we need and get what we need to be well.

globalhealingcenter.com/nat...

articles.mercola.com/sites/...

Keep up the good work!

Hope this is very helpful to you and others.

Healing Hugs!

[Hidden in reply to CSmithLadd]

Many thanks! Pretty complex all this treatment stuff.Yes I meant B12, brain blip there Basically, I'm taking D3, vit C with zinc and B complex from Tesco and a Selenium with vit A, C & E supplement from my local pharmacy. It doesnt specify which type of A it is. D3 is 250 %NRV. Not convinced about taking extra iodine, seems conflicting research about it for hypo so not sure about that. Some suggest the Paleo diet and have tried it for a wee while but was fully miserable on it as it is the most boring extremest way to eat ever and a lot of the foods suggested tasted like animal feed to me. The thought of that for a life time is frightful to me. I am trying to go gluten free and lacto free dairy as much as possible which is a task for me as I love homemade breads etc, that is more paletable than paleo and totally grain free.

[CSmithLadd in reply to Hidden]

If it doesn't specify "Retinol" then it likely is Beta Carotene. It will specify. Look on the finest print on the bottle. Or you can look it up online. Local pharmacies most often don't carry the best products. They carry for the masses with economics often the priority. It's like B12. If you're not taking the Methylcobalamin B12 (already converted and ready for your body to use), then you're probably not converting the other type (Cyanocobalamin). It is important to know which nutrients you are taking.

Iodine is more necessary for those who cannot get enough thyroid hormone to make them well. It's also great to stave off becoming hypothyroid.

If you feel you're getting enough thyroid hormone, then no reason to investigate iodine.

Being gluten-free is ideal. I was highly sensitive to milk protein. Most times that is the problem and not lactose (milk sugar). After being off all dairy for six months, I was able to add it back as long as I took HCL with Pepsin for sufficient stomach acid (very good in breaking down all proteins). Highly recommended it you have trouble with breaking down proteins and/or lack stomach acid.

Each person is different. Some can eat rice, some can't. Our histamines go wild and that also causes issues with what we can tolerate, food-wise. And it often changes!

Getting to know your body is the best thing, and of course, what your body needs. Learning how the thyroid works in the body and what it needs in order to perform its functions are key.

You are your only patient. No one will ever know your body as you do. It is very important to take control and know what it is that makes you feel whole again. Then go about getting it and getting well.

Kudos to you!!

Healing Hugs!

[Hidden in reply to CSmithLadd]

Thanks! Been Amazon shopping !

[siddooo1]

Hi,

I have been taking it for the past 5 weeks and I cannot believe how well I feel. It took me a while to pluck up the courage to try it but, I am so glad that I did. The only issue I have had is gluten like symptoms, so may swap over to another Thai brand.

Sidd0001

[Hidden in reply to siddooo1]

Great to hear there may be light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks!!

[CSmithLadd in reply to siddooo1]

There is no gluten in Thyroid-S. Perhaps that may help.

With hypothyroidism, we have a build up of histamine. When the histamine levels are over the top, we are almost allergic to anything and everything. Watching histamine intake when we are more sensitive is a good thing.

Hope this helps!

[Geniler]

I take Naturethroid. Best thing I ever did was getting off Levo and stop listening to GP's who know nothing. Read Undoctored by William Davis and understand what you can do to take control.

[Hidden in reply to Geniler]

Many thanks for your reply. My GP says my general malaise is probably due to me being within a general menopausal age... Considering the thyroid gland affects many systems in the body, why are they so flipping clueless about thyroid disease, makes me so hot under the collar! Oh, could that be menopause? Ha ha NOT 😞

[Geniler in reply to Hidden]

Don't listen to your doctor. I have been able to minimise the symptoms of menopause by taking NDT, and through diet. I have no hot flushes, no mood swings, no brain fog and my weight is stable. My original GP said I was just getting old when I first complained about my symptoms and when I finally got a diagnosis of Hashimotos I took my health into my own hands. Read undoctored by Dr William Davis. The healthcare system doesn't care about helping you get well.

[Hidden in reply to Geniler]

Tell me about it! I'm sure he sighs any time I go to see him even if its not related to thyroid issues. Pretty awkward as I know him personally through my kids school class and therefore tricky to be pushy and show my true feelings to how I'm being medically managed. The joys of country living and lack of medical choice and autonomy.

[thyroidnodules]

I was like you as well. took levo for six months, had swollen leg and gained more weight. was scared but started takin thiroyd and lo and behold after a year I am back to working full time, going out and weekends and have lost a stone. good luck - docs just want to palm their drugs off on us and make other excuses for weight gain etc

[Hidden in reply to thyroidnodules]

Great to hear your journey of success health wise. Thanks for the encouragement 😊

[Hidden]

Hi I take it Thyroid s. Before I had my thyroid completely removed in Oct 2015 I had never taken any medication. I was then put on Levo after only a few months a felt really unwell, putting on weight and had aches and pains all over. I refused to live my life like it.

I found and joined this site and started taking thyroid s since June 2016. I feel well again now. I take two grains, one in the morning first thing and the other 1.5 hours after lunch.

Most people on here have been on Levo for so long some have forgotten how it feels to be well. I was lucky I did know how I felt before the operation.

The only thing I feel wrong is that I am slightly more tired than before my op but I am trying to correct this with upping my Vitamins and Minerals.

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

Thanks for your encouraging reply, appreciate it! 😊

[Hidden]

Many thanks to everyone's reply re Thyroid-S / NDT. They have sparked a light of hope on my wellness journey. Just now need to try and convince my husband this next step is safe, he is apprehensive for me to take matters in my own hands. People don't understand how rubbish we can feel even when so called medicated.

[CSmithLadd in reply to Hidden]

Have him read about it. Knowledge is power: theepochtimes.com/n3/187550...

The bottom line of the article is that treatment for some must be extremely individualized. The average doctor has no interest in spending the time necessary for him to get up to speed and go around conventional standard practices. Why would he treat one person one way and not all his patients with the same improvements to thyroid functionality? It's a Catch-22.

It's easier for him not to go there.

If you're smart enough to know what's not right, then you're smart enough to find out what is right and what you need. It's not hard at all. Honestly. When it adds improvement to your quality of life... it becomes very simple once you get the right information and know it is right.

We cannot trust our lives into the hands of those doctors who don't understand how this all works. Unfortunately, that is most doctors! Their programming runs deep.

If you can find a holistic or integrative doctor who is not beholding to the pharmaceutical companies, then you may have a go at that and see progress. Otherwise: the simplest thing is to research and understand the subject matter inside out... then decide whether or not you can do it for yourself. I know you can!

There are conventional doctors who have become integrative doctors after healing their spouses of hypothyroidism. They too thought that modern medicine was up on this and that Levothyrxoine would be the perfect solution. They found out they were wrong! What did they do after that? They became integrative doctors, champions for nutritional medicine.

As more and more of us find out way through the ridiculousness and the solutions to our nutritional and hormonal deficiencies -- the sky becomes bluer than ever again for those who still do not know and are suffering each and every day. We need a chain reaction that will shake conventional medicine into listening. As less and less women depend on another human being to help them and we instead help ourselves... we get what we need.

Most of the proof is in the right testing -- even for most arrogant of doctors -- that's probably why they refuse to do those tests, telling their patients, "It's unnecessary." Do we really stand for that and go home and cry? Really?

No.

Have your Hubby read the article above. There are many, many more informative articles on the subject. The more he knows, the more he will be your right hand man in the endeavor to heal thyself!

Hugs!!

[Hidden in reply to CSmithLadd]

I totally agree! I would love to go ahead and do it myself, I am just concerned about the amount it is all going to cost with the pure supplements and NDT. I am not sure if my budget can stretch to it long term due to being affected by the current economic down turn. I didn't realise Thyroid-S was so costly.

[CSmithLadd in reply to Hidden]

Is it that costly? Less than ten dollars US a month for your health?!

What does it cost you in Euros? I believe around 89 Euros. Is that too much for what you get? At a dose of two per day, the bottle would last you over a year and a half.

The nutritional supplementation is not forever. After the crash course to get back on track, within a few months you should be able to keep up on most of your nutritional needs with the right combinations of foods. That is, as long as you have sufficient stomach acid for absorption.

If you don't have sufficient stomach acid, the use of HCL with Pepsin or Betaine with Pepsin will be necessary to replace the lack of stomach acid. Most all who have hypothyroidism have a lack of stomach acid.

If your budget can't tolerate it, get the NDT and only the vitamins and minerals necessary for T4 to T3 conversion. All other vitamins you can get by making sure you are eating the right foods to provide those vitamins and minerals on a daily basis, or other ways: for example, Epsom salts baths are a great and economical way to provide your body with much needed Magnesium! Learn what you can do to get what your body needs. It need not necessarily be expensive. Also, making sure you get the right kind of nutrients. Do your homework and know for certain the nutrients you buy are the ones easily absorbed and that will give you what your body needs to thrive.

Steering clear of gluten, unrefined sugar, and table salt will ensure you're not undermining your nutritional needs choices. Make SURE you do use GOOD salt (which the body needs). The best I have found that is also economical, is Himalayan Pink Sea Salt. It has all its minerals intact. Table salt has been stripped of its nutrients and those nutrients are then sold. Unreal!

When you buy sea salt, buy in bulk. You'll have all the sea salt you need for cooking as well. Throw that junk salt in the garbage. It is so bad for your body it's insane they even sell it.

Hope this helps!

Healing Hugs!

[Hidden in reply to CSmithLadd]

Many thanks CSmithLadd for spending time posting all your advice, much appreciated