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Hi everyone who is hypothyroid or hyper, I have just got the price for the 11 blood tests, totaling £1449.50 for them, well I can have a luxury holiday for weeks and get the tests done in Crete for less than that lol. So will have to wait till next year.

To anyone who is in Newcastle, and fancies joining our meeting, we are going at 6.30pm on Tuesday the 27th Oct, to As u like it in Jesmond, just near the Civic Centre. It should prove to be very interesting, and hopefully, we will exchange snippets of info that will prove helpful.

Take care all

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  • I know it's gutting isn't it the amount these tests cost. But if they provide the answers to the questions you so desperately want, then they're worth it. I've concluded that this year. I was chasing my tail going round and round not getting answers to my numerous health questions. My private doctor ran some expensive lab tests that I heart-wrenchingly parted with my money for. But when answers came back indicating what finally was wrong with my body's function, I breathed a sigh of relief to have answers and a treatment plan to follow.

    Fingers crossed you'll get the answers you need too.

    Enjoy your meet up session.

  • Thanks Hea72, I just can't afford it, and I feel a lot better with T3 added to my T4, am self-medicating, and tough for what they think. I only wanted to be sure about the RT3 mainly, will just wait till next year.

    I think that it is criminal that they don't check us out thoroughly, it is our human right, to be treated with respect and proper medication. Hippocratic oath states it all, but I doubt very much that they even read it.

    I don't know if you have read the article about RT3 dominance, and the new guidelines brought out at the beginning of September this year.

    btf-thyroid.org/resources/n...

    custommedicine.com.au/healt...

    Two articles well worth ploughing through.

    Take care

    Veronica

  • Thank you, will read those.

    Is it just Rev T3 you want tested then?

    Great you're feeling the benefit of added T3. Yes the NHS treatment of thyroid (and CFS & fibro added to the mix too) disorders is very poor!

  • The RT3 was the main one, but then DHEA, saliva cortisol, B6 B12, selennium, ( which I would think was fine, as I eat 4 brazil nuts a day) B6 and B12, the 2 anti-bodies, zinc, chromium.

    Those articles are very interesting.

    Take care

  • That sounds crazy pricing!? I'm sure someone who knows about this stuff will be able to direct you somewhere that costs reasonably? Which tests were requested?

    The 'group of friends' who are meeting tomorrow, such a good idea... see you there :-)

  • I'll see what everyone says, yep see you there

  • HI, that's one thing that I know is on the very high end of the scale, when I visited Dr. Quentin last year. I supplement with 10.000iu vit D3, so no probs there, but thanks Veronica

  • I'm a bit puzzled about how you've come up with that price for the tests you mention. I just did some checking on the Genova and Blue Horizon websites and came up with the following :

    Thyroid Plus test from Genova Diagnostics UK - it includes two types of antibodies plus reverse T3 plus all the obvious other things for thyroid. It costs £148. You would need to get someone to take blood for you. It is all done by post.

    gdx.net/uk/product/140

    Adrenal Stress Profile, also from Genova Diagnostics UK costs £82, and includes a 4-part test for cortisol, and it also includes DHEA.

    gdx.net/uk/product/27

    For a full nutritional work up you could try Medichecks. I've never used them, but I know some people have mentioned it. I have no idea what their reputation is. The price for the nutritional work up is £549 and includes phlebotomy. If you look at all their nutritional tests you may find a combination that tell you what you want to know at a lower cost.

    medichecks.com/find-a-test/...

    The total of that lot is £779. The Genova tests might have discounts if you mention Thyroid UK as your practitioner.

    Who on earth quoted you nearly £1500?

  • Like humanbean I'm amazed at the price you've been given from Blue Horizons. I've had bloods done by them at my local Spire Hospital and I've never paid over £200 for quite a range of tests. Are you sure there hasn't been some kind of mix-up? Very surprised. Unless their prices have shot up? I hope not, as they've been great for me for getting bloods done.

  • Hi, yes I got the email from them today, was 11 tests, certainly not what they promoted on their website. Anyway have a price of £141 for the most important 6 tests from Genova, seems that the GP will do the bloods for nothing, well I won't hold my breath, but I will probs go with this price, my main one is the 2 anti-bodies and the RT3, but they do all of the normal spectrum with it, as I know that they have to do the others at the same time, for the correct result.

  • Hi Langdocienne,

    Wow! At that price I'd take the holiday! Let me know the list that you need and where in the country you are and I'll try to quote you happy 😊.

    Best wishes,

    Paul Harris

    Founder

    Blue Horizon Medicals.

  • HI Paul thanks for your reply, I had emailed them last week with a list of 11 tests to do, this is the email that I got back, I can only go with what they said, I thought that the price was way over the top.

    I am in Newcastle upon tyne

    This is a copy of the email:-

    Hello Veronica,

    Thank you for your time on the phone this afternoon.

    We have two options available to you. The first is to attend the Nuffield Hospital in Newcastle for all the tests they offer, they cannot offer the cortisol saliva test there. These can be done as postal kits. Please see the quote for this below:

    THYROGLOBULIN

    £119.05 / unit(s)

    THYROID PEROXIDASE ANTIBODIES

    £148.05 / unit(s)

    Reverse T3

    £163.05 / unit(s)

    DHEA SULPHATE

    £100.05 / unit(s)

    SELENIUM

    £123.05 / unit(s)

    SERUM ZINC

    £123.05 / unit(s)

    CHROMIUM

    £123.05 / unit(s)

    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)

    £159.05 / unit(s)

    VITAMIN B12

    £105.05 / unit(s)

    Iodine - Serum

    £123.05 / unit(s)

    Diurnal Cortisol (4) from Labrix

    £163.00

    The total for this option is £1,449.50

    The second option you have is to attend Nuffield Newcastle for the reverse T3 test and then we can send you postal kits for the rest of the tests. Please see a quote for this option below:

    Reverse T3

    £163.05 / unit(s)

    Diurnal Cortisol (4) from Labrix

    £163.00

    Private Blood Test for DHEA

    £115.35

    Private Blood Test for Thyroid Abs

    £89.35

    Private Blood Test for Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)

    £151.35

    Private Blood Test for Vitamin B12 (Active)

    £89.35

    Private Blood Tests for Iodine (Serum - Protein Bound)

    £79.35

    Private Blood Test for Selenium (Serum)

    £79.35

    Private Blood Test for Zinc (Serum/Plasma)

    £59.

    Private Blood Test for Chromium (Blood)

    £79.35

    The total price for these tests is £1,069.30.

    These postal kits will require you to make an appointment with a professional phlebotomist.

    I hope this helps

    Yours in health

    Will

    William Stuart

    Blue Horizon Medicals

  • Veronika,

    Thanks for providing the information. Will is a new member of staff here so I'll go over other options for you. If you don't mind travelling a bit I'll utilise the Spire Hospital in Washington and see what I can come up with - more to follow....

    Paul.

  • Hi Veronika,

    Well,

    I have tried at the Spire Hospital (Washington) and it's still reasonably expensive - within a hundred pounds - so Will has done a good job. The reason that this is expensive is that the tests you need don't fit any profiles which would certainly bring down the cost.

    I'll check with Spire and see what can be done if we bundled the tests together for the analyser.

    Paul.

  • HI Paul, I find it really nice, that you in fact concerned about the price of the tests. I fully understand that they will be done much more cheaply abroad, as things are very different, money etc.

    I do have a price of £141 from Genova for

    Endocrine

    Thyroid Plus:

    TSH/TT4/FT4/FT3/Reverse T3/Antithyroid Peroxidase Antibody (TPOAb)/Anti

    -

    Thyroglobulin Antibody (TgAb)

    These are the main ones, I have already had a few of these done, but the result usually differs, and they have to be done again, together with the RT3.

    If I find that the RT3 is dominant, then I can get further testing of all of the other bloods, to see if any of them are too blame. I have very low iron, that will never change, and I did have high cortisol last year, and these can be the cause of RT3, of course my RT3 and Free T3 ratio may well be fine. I would just like to check this, and the NHS should do this for me, but they refuse, as they do to everyone else.

    Veronica

  • Hi Veronica,

    I am always happy to help where I can - I managed through a bit of wrangling with the labs we use to get the price of our advanced thyroid profile from £120 down to £89 (£79 with TUK10 code) and added Ferritin, Folate, B12, CRP for just another £10!

    So a cheaper price helps you guys, plus increases our volume and keep the labs happy - everyone's a winner.

    I'm not sure how Genova can do the reverse T3 without centrifuging and freezing, I would be interested to know which assay they use.

    Best wishes,

    Paul.

  • Hi Paul, just seen this reply, so exactly what tests will they do for the £89? Veronica

  • Hi Veronica,

    bluehorizonmedicals.co.uk/P...

    TSH

    FT4

    FT3

    TT4

    Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies

    Thyroglobulin Antibodies

    £89 or £79 with tuk10 code

    bluehorizonmedicals.co.uk/T...

    TSH

    FT4

    FT3

    TT4

    Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies

    Thyroglobulin Antibodies

    Ferritin

    Folate

    Vitamin B12

    C Reactive Protein

    £99 or £89 with TUK10 code

    Best wishes,

    Paul.

  • HI Paul, you are very very helpful, but it is the RT3 that is the most important, my 2 iron levels I know, as I am very anemic, and on 210g ferrous fumerate. What price can they do with that included, and forget the ferrutin?

    Thanks

    Veronica

  • Hi Veronica,

    Success.

    We can Organise the following for you but you'd have to order over the telephone and not online..

    Diurnal Cortisol Labrix... £169

    DHEA Sulphate

    Selenium

    TSH

    FT3

    FT4

    Thyroid Peroxidase antibodies

    RT3

    Zinc

    Chromium

    B6

    B12

    The above would be at Spire Washington - I have got them to class this as a profile - £690

    And if you wanted IODINE we could send you a postal microtainer kit for £95, or a vacutainer kit for £79

    Hope this helps,

    Paul Harris

    Founder

    Blue Horizon Medicals

  • Hi again Paul,

    I will go for this, but I need to 2 anti-bodies done, also the Tg anti-bodies, am sure that for a bit extra they can do this.

  • Veronica,

    email us your requirements to assistance@bluehorizonmedicals.co.uk - aske them to check with Paul too.

    I'll keep an eye out for your email.

    Paul.

  • Thanks Paul, will probs leave this till after Christmas, as I feel really fine with my T3 addition, just shows how a tiny little tablet, can change your life. I will get all of the tests done that you had said for the £169, but with the addition of the TG anti-bodies, just to confirm that I have Hashis, as they have never checked. Also to see how the RT3 is going.

    Veronica

  • Hi Paul, many thanks for that, but at the moment, I will go with Genova to start with, unless you can match their price, as you have been so helpful. I have stated the tests that they will do. Thanks Veronica

  • Hi Veronica,

    Sorry, none of our labs will do RT3 without freezing so cannot match that specific profile.

    Best wishes,

    Paul. :-)

  • Hi Paul, I wonder what they do at Genova, will ask them, so the blood has to be frozen then. Will check this out.

    Thanks

    Veronica

  • Forgot to say, sorry that you are on Ferrous Fumerate, that's grim stuff. But effective.

  • Hi Paul, unfortunatley, my ferritin level, remains very low, I am 60, but still a fully functioning female, I had to have my fsh and lh levels tested, as my doc said, that the nhs would not fund prescribing me northeristerone anymore, as I must just have breakthrough bleeding lol, I am as heavy and regular as I was from the age of 9, and still very fertile lol. I have 7 children.

    So one in the eye for the docs, she says that it is very unusual, and thus my theory of one size does not fit all, proves the point.

  • Langdocienne,

    Our Doctor has seven children too, no wonder he's working all the time!

    I have a good ring around the labs and have found a reverse T3 assay that doesn't require freezing. It's most probably the same assay that Genova are using.

    So I am working on getting together a profile based on our Thyroid Check PLUS TEN but also sticking in a Reverse T3. This would need a vacutainer sample, but am working on getting the price as close to £150 as I can get.

    So the test inclusions would be

    TSH

    FT4

    FT3

    TT4

    Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies

    Thyroglobulin Antibodies

    Ferritin

    Folate

    Vitamin B12

    C Reactive Protein

    REVERSE T3

    And I will try to get another test squeezed in here too as PLUS TWELVE sounds better than PLUS ELEVEN doesn't it!

    I need to ascertain whether people would be interested in it though as I have to guarantee a good throughput to save on couriers and shipping etc etc. I'll put up a poll on the forum to see if it's worth it...

    Best Wishes,

    Paul.

  • Hey thanks, I feel sure that quite a few on here, would go for it, I will thanks Veronica

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