Stop Vitamin D, Are You Joking ?

[greygoose]

Don’t Take Vitamin D Says New Study

by Jeffrey Dach MD

jeffreydachmd.com/2014/01/s...

[jezebel69]

Loved reading that Greygoose - thanks!

[greygoose in reply to jezebel69]

You're welcome.

[Marz]

thefatemperor.com/blog/2014...

[greygoose in reply to Marz]

Thank you, Marz, but I don't need convincing. lol I won't stop taking my vit D3! Just thought the article was interesting.

[Marz in reply to greygoose]

....hoping others reading your post may view it - those that have not seen it

[greygoose in reply to Marz]

Yes, I know what you mean.

[greygoose]

Thank you, londinium, I'll have a look at that later.

[galathea]

The article was interesting because this paragraph taken from it., neatly sums up the idiot thinking on levothyroxine, vs t3 or NDT. All the studies were ignored, and so the conclusion reached was that t4 alone is sufficient. It never stops does it!

A common gimmick used by Drug Company sponsored studies is to claim that only RCT (randomized trials) are to be included as “evidence”. The Bolland report selected forty RCT studies to conclude Vitamin D is useless. Dr Bolland conveniently excluded all the other basic science and observational studies. There are thousands of observational studies that show health benefits for Vitamin D. A search for Vitamin D in Google Scholar yields 2.2 million published articles. Mark Bolland has excluded 99.9% of the available information on vitamin D to arrive at his conclusion that Vitamin D has no health benefits.

G xx

[greygoose]

Yes! Exactly! These studies mean nothing because they can manipulate them as they wish and ignore what doesn't suit them.

What shocked me was the first paragraph. Why would The Lancet print something that was as obviously bogus as this! And it went 'viral'?!?!? Rediculous. These people haven't got the brains they were born with.

[shaws Administrator]

I must say, it gives us even less confidence.

[greygoose in reply to shaws]

I have no confidence in anyone, anymore!

[galathea in reply to greygoose]

I have confidence in my own ability to work out whether what the doctors tell me is truthful and in my best interest. When my doctor tried to send me to a local hospital for asthma treatment, after she had failed miserably to help me... I was confident enough, thanks to the online forums. ( this one, and Tpa ). to ask to be sent to a hospital out of area.

They were brilliant and sorted me out.

When you see how badly we are treated and how much rubbish is spouted by the medics, and then compare what we can do for ourselves, by using online info, it just reinforces that we are the experts on our own bodies.

G xx

[overnighthearingloss in reply to galathea]

Vit c and asthma

lef.org/magazine/2008/4/New...

[Margo in reply to greygoose]

I don't have any confidence in anyone anymore either Greygoose, shocking isn't it!

[greygoose in reply to Margo]

It's sad.

[Jackie]

Hi I cannot take vit D as calcium too high over range. MY D is 8 and the symptoms are horrendous

Jackie

[greygoose in reply to Jackie]

Is there no way of reducing calcium, then, Jackie?

[Jackie in reply to greygoose]

Hi To reduce the calcium temporary there is a very risky procedure with a drip in hospital. It is more dangerous than not taking the d.

best wishes,

Jackie

[greygoose in reply to Jackie]

OK, I see. I was just wondering because taking too much zinc can reduce copper and vice versa, was there something that acted in that way with calcium. Why do you have too much calcium, if you don't mind me asking, is it something to do with your parathyroids?

[Jackie in reply to greygoose]

HI It can be PTH but I have had what tests, scan (nuclear)etc I can but too ill for the best scan. However, Endo does not think it is that. Just my body .I believe it might be something to do with my kidney disease as my son is the same but nothing known.

Incidentally if not having a calcium test at present , the dentist can usually tell from the teeth.

Jackie

[nightingale-56 in reply to Jackie]

Jackie, just a thought. Would K2 help out in anyway to put the Calcium where it belongs?

[Jackie in reply to nightingale-56]

Thanks but I must not take any K2, even in food.

Jackie

[nightingale-56 in reply to Jackie]

So sorry Jackie.

[Jackie in reply to nightingale-56]

Thanks.

Jackie

[overnighthearingloss in reply to Jackie]

Why?

[Jackie in reply to overnighthearingloss]

Hi It is dangerous for my heart conditions.

Jackie

[overnighthearingloss in reply to Jackie]

I wouldn't dream of suggesting that you follow a path you believe may be dangerous. But I think you may benefit from reading a bit more on the subject.

[Jackie in reply to overnighthearingloss]

Thanks but well read and opinion of 3 top consultants who are really good.

Jackie

[overnighthearingloss in reply to Jackie]

I'm 99% sure my consultants would say similar

But I wish you as well as you can be

[greygoose in reply to Jackie]

OK. I've never heard of that before. Interesting, thank you.

[overnighthearingloss in reply to greygoose]

Calcium in the blood is not good but k2 directs it to the bones

[ThyroidThora]

A contradictory article. If we didn't need vitamin d our bodies wouldn't make it!

[greygoose in reply to ThyroidThora]

Who is being contradictory, Thora? It's a doctor who is very strongly pro vit D supplementation, writing about another doctor's article which says that we don't need vit D supplementation, and debunking that idea. I don't see anything contradictory in that. The original article saying we don't need it might have been contradictory, but I didn't post that.

[Jessiepup]

If you want to know more about vitamin D (which is actually a hormone ) look at this site gotmag.org Vitamin D will make you deficient in Magnesium if you take too much, I know from personal experience.

It has become a 'super vitamin' in recent years and as usual doctors don't know that it shield be taken with its companion nutrients.

[greygoose in reply to Jessiepup]

Actually, there are lots of things that can make you deficient in magnesium! I think I've been mangesium deficient all my life. But doctors don't know anything about nutrition. Two doctors have told me that mangesium is of no importance! Incredible.

[Jessiepup]

Understanding how Magnesium and Vit D work together has transformed my life, as has understanding copper, iron and wholefood Vitamin C (not asorbic acid) all explained in great detail on the website mentioned and on their facebook group.

[greygoose in reply to Jessiepup]

Thank you, I'll have a look later.

Just one thing, can you explain the term 'wholefood vitamin C'. Does it just mean it's not ascorbic acid? I have searched a bit but can't find and explanation.

[Jessiepup]

Whole food Vitamin C is made from the whole orange (or other food) that's the pulp and everything, it is absorbed fully unlike Asorbic Acid of which a lot is excreted which means you don't need a large amount to absorb iron from food.

Also asorbic acid has the best part removed - copper. People low on iron need copper

cytoplan.co.uk/Vitamin-C-Bi...

This is the one I buy.

[greygoose in reply to Jessiepup]

Thank you for that. I shall try them next time I buy vitamin C.

[overnighthearingloss in reply to greygoose]

Vit c has a short half life. If you need to boost vit c, best to take in several spaced doses throughout the day. I have found out that taking late in the day can keep you awake at night.

Everyones tolerance level is different and determined by their current state of health. Can test your tolerance by taking until you become flatulent and then decreasing the dose by 25%.

As your health improves your vit c tolerance decreases and dosage requirements are less

[greygoose in reply to overnighthearingloss]

I took my last dose around seven last night, but it didn't affect my sleep at all. Don't think I'd risk taking it any later, though!

[overnighthearingloss in reply to greygoose]

It may be a combined effect of steroids and vit c.

I assumed it was vit c related as I have had some difficulty sleeping since raising vit c intake

But I have had similar instances when taking aloe vera at times.

If so????? It may make it possible to reduce my steroid intake.

But my fella said he had heard/read that vit c was dispensed during the war when operations required personnel to stay awake

[greygoose in reply to overnighthearingloss]

Really? I've never heard that, but I can believe it. My daughter won't eat citrus fruit at night because it keeps her awake.

[overnighthearingloss in reply to greygoose]

Mmmnn. Another thing unknown to modern medicine

Lucky we chat to each other

[hairyfairy]

I don`t know who to believe any more.

[greygoose in reply to hairyfairy]

Trust your instincts!