gallstones

[cosycat]

Hi I have a large gallstone and have some symptoms with it. My GP thinks I should have my gallbladder removed. I wonder if this gallstone could have any bearing why I have problem converting T4 to T3. Has anyone had their gallbladder removed and find they can convert their meds. much better for their underactive thyroid. Many thanks cat.

[shaws Administrator]

I read something about gallstones a couple of days ago. I will see if I find it again. All I remember the woman wished she hadn't gone ahead. These are a couple of other links:-

hashimotoshealing.com/hashi...

chriskresser.com/the-thyroi...

[shaws Administrator in reply to shaws]

And another. An excerpt from it.:

Thanks for your comment and for reaching out! I can not promise that my program can prevent you from getting surgery when your gall bladder is currently functioning at 10%, but I can promise that what I will teach will give you the tools to dramatically improve your quality of life. And I am adding an additional bonus to the program, which is the opportunity to work with me one on one. I will help you craft a detailed action plan that includes diet, lifestyle changes and supplement recommendations so that you reclaim not only your health but your life.

Best,

Marc

hashimotoshealing.com/hashi...

[cosycat in reply to shaws]

Shaws thanks for your reply regarding gallstones and conversion.

Its hard to know whats what, I know I've got a large gallstone, but are all my symptoms related to that or my underactive thyroid. Because my digestion is so bad I wondered about the conversion of t4 to t3. On this site I've had some good positive feed back regarding gallbladder op. thanks cat.

[shaws Administrator in reply to cosycat]

Hi, re your digestion problem. I take betaine plus pepsin tablets which have helped a lot. When the GP prescribed a generic gaviscon, it made the pain more severe and that's when I looked for another answer.

This is an excerpt re low acid and as the symptoms are so similar we are usually prescribed PPIs instead of supplying us with acid needed to dissolve protein.

stopthethyroidmadness.com/s...

[Hidden]

I had mine removed two years and haven't looked back. Have no idea if it helps conversion but there was no way I could carry on as I was. A NO fat diet is not healthy long term and there are so many risks with infection etc. My stone blocked a duct for a while but I was very lucky and it moved.

[Starfish123]

Hi,

I had my gallbladder out five weeks ago. I'm sorry I didn't do it sooner. I suffered for the last six months before the op with either bad attacks or constant pain in the gallbladder area.

The op for me was much less problem than the monthly period, but I do get really bad pain then. I'd heard about bad diarhea after a few days, but they came and went without incident.

I'm normally constipated so was interested to see how it affected me as diarhea seems to be mentioned a lot online. I've had an incident a few times now since the op but only after eating cream.

I cannot answer about the t4-t3 conversion as I've not noticed any change yet.

I hope my experience helps you make your mind up. I did hear before the op that the liver is overworked due to the non functioning gallbladder so this can mean you are less fatigued after the op, I had a few hours after the op on a drip and felt wide awake, it was wonderful. Unfortunately the fatigue returned as soon as the drip came out.

A few weeks on,I im now really tired but I think that has to do with the clocks changing time and I did a lot more than normal last week.

I hope you make the decision that's right for you

Good luck

[cosycat in reply to Starfish123]

Thanks Starfish for your reply. I hope you are feeling much better now. My worst problem is indigestion in the middle of my chest, it can feel as if I'm having heart attack and terrible bloating. Let me know if you notice a change with your converting t4 to t3 thanks cat.

[Castlepoint]

Hi

I just wanted to say that my mum who is 91 & hypothyroid diagnosed in her late 40's (like me) has had problems with her gallbladder she has been hospitalised 2 or three times & the last time she was very ill -I would urge you to think carefully about your decision as mum has gone through a lot trying to feel better - with stents in her gall bladder etc. have you tried a gluten free diet? I am so much better on that. No bloating stomach pain or anything now.

Take care

Castlepoint

[cosycat in reply to Castlepoint]

Thanks Castlepoint for your reply regarding gallstones. Did you say you and your mum both have gallstones? did your mum have them removed.

I have gone on a gluten free diet for some time now and I feel a lot better having no wheat or oats in my diet. I have one large stone and I get terrible indigestion frequent

with crushing pain in chest. On gluten free my IBS is so much better. I worry about the IBS coming back when gallstone is removed. Also all these symtoms can be related to underactive thyroid and I wondered if this could stop conversion of medication. thanks cat.

[Castlepoint in reply to cosycat]

Yes my mum had gall stones and they put a stent in her bladder as they could not remove the stone owing to her age. That's when she got sepsis which made her blind. They then managed to remove the stone with a basket through the throat (ewww). I don't think I have them but have gone gluten free because of indigestion , bloating, pain & IBS. The upside is that my joints are better and my knees are not as swollen, mum & I both have Hashimotos hypothyroidism . My IBS flares when I am stressed, my motherinlaw died and after the funeral I could hardly sit down because of the pain in my stomach. I would say have what you need doing now before it's more difficult to do when you are older. Yes they are related to thyroid I believe - as it gives you high cholesterol which is what gallstones are made of.

Take care

Castlepoint

[gizziesmum]

I have had gallbladder attacks off and on for some time and the only thing that relieves the between shoulder pain of gallbladder is a Amazon forest herb called Chanca Piedra, it comes in teabags that you can buy in the big Tesco`s or online

The full name is "Rio Amazon Quebra Pedra" (Chanca Piedra) and you get 40 teabags for £5.99 It is in the aisle with all the medical things and is in a circular beige cardboard tub.

I researched this for a long time to make sure it was safe, but for me it was very effective, It is worth looking up.

[cosycat in reply to gizziesmum]

Thanks gizziesmum for your reply. Sorry for my late reply, do the teabags help with indigestion, I get very bad chest pain with it and bloating and find Andrews liver salts help me. regards cat

[gizziesmum in reply to cosycat]

Yes they do help with my chest pain and stomach upsets, but remember not everyone reacts the same. I think they would be worth a try.

Take care

[5858]

I also had my gallbladder out a year ago. I don't know about the converting. But I feel great now. I had no idea my gallbladder was ready to burst which could poison you. I am so glad I didn't mess around and had it done. I had stones but had no idea of the bad condition it was in until it was removed. Hope this helps. All the best to you. xo Susita

[cosycat in reply to 5858]

Hi and thanks for reply regarding gallstones. I've had 2 bouts this year after eating too much. My problem is indigestion and the crushing pain in the chest that I get with it.

My liver blood test was fine. Can not go anywhere without Andrews liver salts

Just wondered about the converting. thanks cat.

[5858 in reply to cosycat]

Have to look into those liver salts. Sorry didn't know much about converting. Indigestion and gallstones are two different things. Never had indigestion just the other..... good luck. thanks Susita

[Hidden]

Hi I had my gall bladder removed 02/07/14 after suffering for 2 years 2 months and 10 days from the dianosis I was in constant pain, the consultant let the gall badder become so enlarged it was a toss up between major or keyhole surgery luckily I had keyhole but was informed by another consultant that it shaould have been removed 18 months before because it was a stugggle in surgery to remove it, further to this I had a reaction to the gas they used to put me to sleep and had to have a drain for 24 hours.

Now I am completely recovered and thank god I had the gall bladder removed because my diet was restricted to salads mainly as certain food caused me to be very ill and doubled me up in pain.

So if you think that it will pass I can assure you it won't and there is only 1 way to get rid of the stone is by surgery.

[cosycat in reply to Hidden]

Trina Thanks for your reply regarding gallstones. I have one large stone, I suppose it will not get smaller, I've had positive comments thanks cat

[Marz]

Had my gall bladder removed over 30 years ago. Long before I understood anything about thyroid and the metabolising of cholesterol. I had weekly attacks of pancreatitis which eventually had me carried off into hospital with a blue flashing light. The pain was horrendous and I would rather have given birth After two weeks and endless tests they decided to remove the gall bladder. No stones - just a rancid mess. Thyroid only diagnosed 9 years ago. I have read there is a connection though....

I have not suffered anything that I am aware of and can eat almost anything

[cosycat in reply to Marz]

Many thanks Marz for your reply. cat

[Spareribs in reply to cosycat]

Just a thought - I have no experience of gallbladder trouble, as far as I'm aware - here's a link to Dr Kharrazian

gallbladderattack.com/hypot...

I work with 2 colleagues - 1 had the gallbladder op ("whip it out") and was glad as the pain eased but has continuing various symptoms and is often sick. The other changed her diet "wait & see" and it is no longer grumbling. I know of another person took 'urso' which dissolved her 'middle-sized' stones (but not all stones are cholesterol or respond) so there are choices but depends on your own situation and I can't argue with pain. J x

[Galll]

Hi Cosycat, I know this is a old post but did you go ahead with surgery to remove in the end? Also how large is / was you gallstone? Mine is currently 2cm and not sure if that is considered large. Thanks