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Hashimoto's and Gallbladder/Gallstones

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I have Hashimotos Thyroiditis and have found out I have gallstones. I have been in constant excrusiating pain for three months, in and out of A&E etc. I have just read that Hashimotos can cause gallstones. I have also read that its not a good idea to have the gallbladder removed if you have Hashimotos, as its more important to sieve out the bile, control essential vitamins and ensure your Thyroid meds work correctly. Has anyone else who has Hashimotos had their gallbladder out or got knowledge of this issue?

I have pre-op tomorrow & op planned for 17th Jan.

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jgelliss

Are you optimally dosed ? What are your recent FT3 FT4 TSH results ? Meantime you might want to look into digestive enzymes and Betaine HCl and Bile Salt . Watch your fats/oil that you consume . It can be very irritating for your delicate gallbladder now .

Wishing you wellness .

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millefleur40 in reply to jgelliss

I am hsving my pre-op today and they are taking bloods including full thyroid panel, so will find any probs. Have been taking Betaine for a while. Don't smoke, drink or eat fatty meals.

Will see what the results say.

Thank you.

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jgelliss in reply to millefleur40

Wishing you all the best . And may the news from your Dr be better than you ever expected .

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greygoose

I have Hashi's, and had my gallbladder removed over ten years ago. Living without it has never given me any problems. Life goes on as normal. :)

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Heloise

I wish you could keep your gallbladder. Have they said you have infection, sludge or actual cholesterol stones? There is a flush you can do using apple juice, olive oil and epsom salts if you have the nerve:) I was told they saw a large gall stone on an ultrasound but I still have mine and no problems. I agree with jgellis and would add to get lecithin gel tabs which emulsifies fats. You should avoid big fatty meals. I've also used charcoal capsules during attacks. Bile is an important element and while you will always have a drip of it I think it's better to be regulated by the gall bladder. Try the lecithin.

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jgelliss in reply to Heloise

Great! Great ! Advice as always Heloise . If I may add that Lecithin from sunflower seeds is Great .

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Raventhorpe

I just had my gallbladder op in October after many months of being in pain and even thou I was careful about what I eat I still would never know when an attack was coming . I was very nervous about having the op and I was in two minds about whether I should have it done but I'm glad i had the op as they found 15 stones and the gallbladder had attached itself to the bed of the liver which can happen if it gets inflamed and increased in size, they still managed to do op by keyhole surgery so was only in for the day. I don't have hasimotos but have graves desease but am hypothyroid due to having Radio active iodine treatment. I wish you well with whatever you decide to do.

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millefleur40 in reply to Raventhorpe

Thank you so much for commenting. I guess it is what they find when they get in there. Glad its worked out ok for you. 😊

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Serendipitious

Modern medicine has us led us to believe that the gallbladder is a non essential organ and if there’s any issues it can be removed. I recently watched The Anxiety Summit 5 where Dr Ann Louise Gittleman gave an amazing interview on the importance of bile and it’s role in T4 to T3 conversion, it’s anti microbial properties and how it helps break down fats and fat soluble vitamins.

She also spoke of the ways you can tackle two issues bile production and bile flow. How in this day and age we have forgotten about eating bitter foods which stimulates bile.

Once you remove the gall bladder bile doesn’t get released in a controlled fashion. In other words when we consume fats.

Here’s a link to her interview which I managed to find on Facebook, after the summit all original links are removed:

facebook.com/annlouisegittl...

Some links about her approach to bile:

google.co.uk/amp/s/www.firs...

annlouise.com/2017/04/28/bi...

“Dr. Antonio Bianco showed that the release of bile triggered the release of an enzyme that converts T4 to T3. “

Andreas Moritz wrote a book called The Amazing Gallbladder and Liver flush:

The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush amazon.co.uk/dp/0984595449/...

A testimonial:

google.co.uk/amp/s/projectl...

This may or may not be suitable for your situation but people have had incredible results. Even those people who never thought they had gall stones safely removed hundreds of stones.

Bile isn’t as insignificant as many people think.

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Mamapea1 in reply to Serendipitious

Thank you for posting all this, Serendipitious , I shall pass the info onto a close friend who also has this problem. I'm sure it will benefit millefleur40 greatly too! It really does help to examine all the options/possibilities in any area of illness, especially when there are serious decisions to make👍

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Serendipitious in reply to Mamapea1

You’re welcome. People simply don’t know this and I only discovered this recently. There are so many ways we can prevent disease and prevent the removal of our organs. If they are so unnecessary why do we have them in the first place?

It exasperates me now when I just hear about people having their gallbladders removed when in so many cases it can be avoided.

I had mine out just under 2 years ago now. I was healthy but got pains that were horrible in my upper right chest. I had large clusters of stones, but tubes all healthy. I’d say once the gallbladder has stones then it’s not going to get any better.

I felt poorly after the operation which was painful, awful toilet trips with bile and worse than ibs pain. My thyroid health has not changed, but having a baby did.

If you need the operation to have it removed, do it, it’s not worth the worry of years down the line of pain. I still get excess bile about once a month but I cope fine.

I avoid spice when I can and eat healthy as possible without horrible fats and I do just fine.

Wishing you the best. Get an nhs private referral I was waiting months and months and then asked this and got my operation in a few weeks.

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