Has anyone ever tried PEMF therapy? I've never heard of it before and I'm honestly not sure what to think of it. It's not advertised for RLS, but I'm wondering if it would have any helpful effects.
I just saw an ad for this device and I thought I'd reach out to this wonderful community and get some advice. or see if anyone has already been down this road and had any luck.
Sounds interesting but at 277Euros I think I’ll wait until several members report that it works.
I’m a sucker for every device/gadget/supplement and the only thing that has helped so far is drinking more coffee.
It does seem to work on brain waves so it could be promising for RLS but it’s expensive.
Thanks for sharing the info.
This seems on the face of it a possible great help for the conditions it claims to help.
It's true that there are associations between patterms of brain waves (as detected by an EEG) and particular psycho-neurological states.
Whether these can be indiuced electromagnetically is not something I'm sure about.. However the company do offer references to potential evidence so it's worth following that up.
However, you would still be left with the knowledge that although the device may help with anxiety, sleep or pain, there's no mention of RLS and therefore no guarantree it will have any effect on RLS symptoms.
There has been recent reference to repetitive Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (rTMS) in the forum and this has been apparently demonstrated to be a remedy for depression and perhaps also RLS. If this device uses a similar principle then it's a possibility.
Noting the pop up urging readers to "Buy today risk free" I assume there will be a money back guarantee if it doesn't work, but as they don't claim it works for RLS then it won't be covered.
Yes, I would contact them first to see if the guarantee covers RLS before buying one.
I had never heard of PEMF therapy so I did a bit of Googling. Apparently, this approach does show some promise in the treatment of RLS, but this specific instrument has mixed reviews. And it is expensive. Then I found this. This device specifically mentions RLS and it is very inexpensive with a money-back guarantee. If I were going to invest in a PEMF device, it would be this one.
Good find! Makes it even more worth looking into. Especially given the rTMS studies for RLS that Manerva mentions. Always good to get new avenues for hope 😊
Thanks for the info! this looks promising! I think I will contact them to ask more questions. This one is much ore reasonably priced, and it looks like it is meant to be worn in different locations, not just the head.
I emailed the mad-1 company about how these things are used, and if we would need one for each leg. This is a copy/paste of the reply. Sounds interesting. Because the price is in dollars I thought it was an American company, but it seems to be Australian, so dollar to sterling is better.
"Hi Gill
When treating RLS with our devices they are used to stimulate acupuncture points, usually LIV 3 which is located on top of the feet. This is normally effective for treating RLS in any part of the leg. You need to treat this point on both feet at the same time so you require a minimum of two devices. Treating these acupuncture points has been found to effect both adenosine and dopamine levels, which probably accounts for there effectiveness in treating RLS for most people. However, we have found that if people are taking drugs that effect dopamine levels then the devices are generally not effective.
The devices are attached with the ultra thin hypoallergenic self adhesive pads that come with the devices.
I hope this information is helpful."
That reply sounds genuine and knowledgeable given the comment about the dopamine agonist treatments (which adversely affect the impact of a number of otherwise successful rls treatments) and also the fact that it identifies the role of adenosine and dopamine in rls (often overlooked). However, while it may work in a slightly different way to acupuncture, even the mention of acupuncture points is a bit disappointing. Acupuncture is often mentioned as a possible treatment for rls and almost always is ineffective (although I totally accept that it is useful for other conditions).
Having said that, I hope someone tries one of these intriguing devices and reports back. Like Jools and Rlsgirl, I am a total sucker for these sorts of gadgets.
Hi Gill, Many thanks for sharing this information. I would like to try to give it a go. I have RLS but don't want to go down the medicine route. Could you please let me know which address you have used to write to Mad-1 people? I tried to contact them via the address they put on their website from two different email addresses and each time my email was rejected as 'spam'.
I am trying to understand the battery type, life, etc.
Many thanks in advance,
Sophia
mad-1.com/contactus.html There is a contact up button near the top of the page. It's a while ago, but I think this is how I got in touch with them.
Thanks for the info! I too emailed them to inquire about how exatctly it works for RLS. but I haven't heard back yet. It is interesting that they sy if you are on DAs that it does not work. I augmented on DAs several years ago and am nolonger using them. I really think I might give this a try! I mean with a money back guarantee wht do you really have to loose?
Many thanks for bringing this method up in the first place, I will let you everyone know how I got on with it once I clarified a few queries with the suppliers of the MAD-1 device.
I don't know if PEMF is the same as TME, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, if it is not the same, both must be based on magnetic waves that act on the brain.
This is one of the latest techniques that are being implemented to cure LRS, but it is not a new technique since in the USA it has been used for many years to cure major depressions that are not reactive to pharmacological treatments and also for brain stimulation of children with mental retardation. , and lately it is also being used for Parkinson's disease.
The rationale is that the different magnetic frequencies that are repeatedly affected by certain locations in the brain, (where the dopaminergic neurons of the brain reside in the case of RLS) cause neurons to develop new connections with other neurons and prolong their axons, giving rise to more connections, in this way more dopamine would be produced and the brain would correct its dysfunctions.
Best of all, these brain changes are permanent and no adverse effects have been reported; either improves brain function or you stay the way you were. In some people it produces a slight headache after each session, which is overcome with a simple analgesic pill.
I am hoping to use this technique in October, but if anyone is already aware of how successful it is for having used it, I would appreciate it if you would report it.
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HI, I am years-long RLS sufferer and have exhausted all the possible medications except the narcotic, oxycodone, I purchased IMRS 2000 last month as a last resort, and have been using the Mat therapy for 14 days, and find my self coming down with worsening symptoms of RLS,I have to increase the dosage of my medication in order to calm down my legs. Needless to say, I am suffering a great deal with lack of sleep. Right now, I stop the treatment for 14 days and resume for 5 days and then stop for 5 days to see if the correlation is related with the use of IMRS 2000, instructed by Dr, J. Carmichael who is a reputed doctor. if it is so, then I have to stop to use it . I will post it and let you know what happen later if I still can use it.
Hope it can help
Chen Halperin
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