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So partway through my day (it's 3:50 p.m. ADT as I write this) I considered whether I'd taken my pill. Yes, I distinctly remembered getting it out. More hours went by and I felt lazier than usual. So, imagine my dismay when 8 hours later I've just discovered it sitting on the kitchen counter. 🙄

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Blearyeyed profile image
Blearyeyed

Been there , done that , got a,wardrobe of tshirts!!!😋😂😂😂😂😘

Take it easy for the rest of the day xx

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

Well if nothing else - it confirms the Pred is working.

Think we’ve all been there. 😳

Please say this improves....?! I noticed it around 2 months in. I lose my train of thought when talking and muddle names when referring to people!

It's not too bad...but it has affected my confidence and my trust in my own judgement sometimes.

I do get frustrated when putting a washing capsule in the laundry drum...only to find one already there! Or going to empty the dryer and discovering I have already taken the clothes!

Working reduced hours defo helps both physically and mentally...but I am really hoping this fog is temporary!

HeronNS profile image
HeronNS in reply to

Apparently it doesn't - I've been on pred since June 2015, and only taking between 1 and 1.5 now. 🤣

in reply to HeronNS

Oh dear...I would have thought being fortunate enough to be on such an envious dose would see you pretty much back to normal! Bless you!

HeronNS profile image
HeronNS in reply to

I think I am back to my usual head in the clouds normal . 😏

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🤣

Blearyeyed profile image
Blearyeyed in reply to HeronNS

Some of us had " brain fog" even without PMR!

Especially if you are going through the Menopause too.

Head in the clouds normal is a perfect description.

HeronNS profile image
HeronNS in reply to Blearyeyed

That's the way I've been all my life, the oppoaite of OCD, maybe?

in reply to

The PMR brain fog was worse than pred head for me. I truly thought I was going senile at 55. It does ease but I still have foggy days. I certainly couldn't have worked so kudos!

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I am sorry you have had a tough time. I am fortunate my work is supportive. I guess I might have to rethink my working hours if it doesnt improve! I had originally thought of taking a year off...but I really believe staying at home would be more detrimental to my health all round!

HeronNS profile image
HeronNS in reply to

Depending on the workplace I think keeping active is beneficial.

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100%. Love my job. Love the people. Would hate to not be able to continue...and I dont really want to retire in my 40s!

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Yellowbluebell in reply to

I took early retirement 10 years ago aged 46 to look after husband after he had major neuro surgery afyer breaking his back but i dread to think how i would have coped with my job with pmr no matter how much i loved it. X

in reply to Yellowbluebell

I hope you found your reward in some other way. That must have been such a huge adjustment for you all and cant have helped your PMR.

The view of our occupational health adjustment is to ensure an employee stays in work. And to facilitate that happening, reasonable adjustments are made wherever possible.

That said...If required...I may shorten my hours permanently.

Hope you are managing your PMR effectively yellowbluebell!

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I think the main thing is to recognise when you do need to take time out to rest properly. I have fibromyalgia and chronic back pain from OA. I struggled for a few years at work, but just kept pushing and pushing myself. It was reasonably okay for a while after being referred to the pain clinic. But eventually everything fell to pieces and I went off sick, supposedly for a week or 3 and never went back at 46. So if you get a chance to cut hours so you can recover as you taper try to. Don't forget though I knew my back was never going to feel better (or as good as it did then!), Which is different from a self limiting condition like PMR that will hopefully, eventually burn itself out for most people. But just be aware your capacity to deal with stress, less energy, and other add-on things that AI like PMR CAN bring is limited so don't drive yourself into the ground. Just find a good balance, pace yourself and try not to get frustrated when the ends of sentences drift into the ether never to be heard of again. It is not you, it's an illness and it's treatment which is the only thing that works. The more rest, interspersed with an activity you enjoy, the less impact PMR has when you lead a busy life.🌻

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Love the sound advice. Makes perfect sense.

It's like battling an invisible enemy. When I feel good, I have no way to gauge what my limit is as I dont really know when I enter the "overdoing it" phase! It's hard to be selfish...but I am trying to put myself first!

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Me too!

Marijo1951 profile image
Marijo1951

I tried to charge my electric toothbrush with my phone charger today.

in reply to Marijo1951

😂😂😂 my toothbrush ran out of battery one day. I stood like an idiot in front of the mirror. I couldn't remember how to brush my teeth manually. My muscle memory had disappeared!

Blearyeyed profile image
Blearyeyed in reply to

I don't have an electric toothbrush so mine regularly runs out of power half way through brushing!

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🤣🤣🤣

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Lol! Oh bless you Marijo1951!

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Marijo1951

Too many gadgets and chargers in the world today 😳 - even post GCA, post Pred brain!

Perhaps WE need a charger! Oh we do.... ...it’s called wine 🥂

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Marijo1951 in reply to DorsetLady

I stick with tea, M&S Luxury Gold loose leaf for preference.

I've never quite understood the appeal of alcohol somehow so, apart from the odd sip of champagne for a wedding toast, I don't bother with it...

HeronNS profile image
HeronNS in reply to Marijo1951

I agree. I have found a local craft beet which doesn't give me a headache, but wine and hard liquor is highy overrated - with the exception of the occasional sip of sherry!

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Marijo1951 in reply to HeronNS

My student granddaughter works part-time as a mixologist, but never tipples herself. When she tells me some of the concoctions that people want - let's say a Rusty Nail, 50% Drambuie and 50% Scotch - I feel positively nauseous.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Marijo1951

It is a very logical mix - since Drambuie is a whisky liqueur!

Shouldn't have looked that up - someone says "scotch whiskey". No "e" in Scotch - bah!!!!!

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nickm001 in reply to HeronNS

It is an acquired taste. If you are going to try wine, start with light white variety. After living in California for number of years, I developed a taste for wine. It is actually good for you, especially red wines. In moderation, naturally.

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Marijo1951

Champagne all the way... if finances would permit! Unfortunately- they don’t!

Yellowbluebell profile image
Yellowbluebell in reply to Marijo1951

I have an alcoholic mother so although i do have a drink i am aware of doing it in moderation but i also find as i dont drink that often ots very easy to get tipsy!!

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HeronNS in reply to Yellowbluebell

My father wanted to teach me how to hold my liquor. He figured if I could handle two of his martinis I'd be able to drink any guy under the table. As I couldn't stand the taste of them that experiment didn't work. I used to go to parties determined to drink enough to get drunk to find out what it was like, but after two drinks I would stop. Had a built in policeman I guess! Btw I was an adult, a university student, when my father had that not so bright idea. I dread to think what he had been like in his callow youth!

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Yellowbluebell in reply to HeronNS

Well i suppose it was well intentioned!! My mum used to complain if me and OH went out with her and my dad and i asked for perrier water!! Even now at 77 and me at 56 she still lectures me on not drinking enough!!

in reply to Yellowbluebell

I was such a boozehound until 1999, then I started opioids and decided to stop drinking. Have never missed it, only had a couple of coffees with Tia Maria in at xmas in 20yrs, and tried a mouthful of wine. I suspect I drank enough for 3 people's lifetimes (according to my sister). My liver quivers if I think of drink now. 🤢

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Yellowbluebell

I drink bubbles water as a "drink". We have a colleague who refuses to pay for fizzy water (when host) but will pay for lemonade with all the sugar (getting diet drinks over here is not easy except for coke!). Infuriates me!

As for alcohol - I drink it because I like the taste of the carrier! If I don't like it I won;t drink it and head for the tap. When they make decent low alcohol wine that'll do me!

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Yellowbluebell in reply to PMRpro

My mum said i was just acting posh by asking for fizzy water!! No not posh i just happen to like fizzy water!! I dont like coke in any form.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Yellowbluebell

Me neither - like very few soft drinks really. Mostly too sweet.

Yellowbluebell profile image
Yellowbluebell in reply to PMRpro

Even though i did have quite a sweet tooth never been bothered about fizzy drinks

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Yellowbluebell

As a child I was very ill with measles - and in those days you got Lucozade "to build you up". I blame my life-long struggle with weight on that. Did you know real Lucozade was used in hospitals for glucose tolerance tests? The level of pure glucose in it made it ideal - fairly nice tasting and moderate volume...

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Yellowbluebell in reply to PMRpro

Thats the one fizzy i do like. Had forgotten about it.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Yellowbluebell

But 50g carbs in a small glass!!!!!

Yellowbluebell profile image
Yellowbluebell in reply to PMRpro

Havnt looked tbh but wont bother now. Its nice but fizzy water does me fine thanks.x

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KellyInTexas in reply to Yellowbluebell

That’s actually a funny dialogue if your in Texas right now.

See, it depends on the sparkling water you buy.

A Texas girl knows how to order sparkling water without sounding pretentious.

( translation for Brits: fizzy water without sounding Pretentiously Posh. Only pretentiously posh folks in Texas order Perrier when here in Texas there is perfectly good...Topo Chico. It’s our state treasure- very inexpensive-imported from Mexico.

Naturally sparkling mineral water from Mexico...

We are so sad now... after several decades of having this delightful secret to ourselves... it’s been discovered. It’s now ,”posh.” It’s the new thing in New York. LA.

Guess who bought it?!?!

Coca Cola!!!! For Petes sake. I wonder if it willshow up in London soon, marketed as the latest greatest at very high prices? You heard it here first...

It’s meant to be served with a lime. No lemons, folks.

Cheers.

The advantage it’s its smooth. The minerals are not sharp. And no chlorine from city water, which many of us are sensitive to. ( so yellowbell, theres a fantastic counter for anyone telling you you are posh. Wanna talk diarrhea? Go ahead. I dare some one pull the posh card on you for ordering sparkling mineral water!) If your traveling no chance for a change in water to disrupt your system.

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Yellowbluebell in reply to KellyInTexas

My mums comment was meant to wind me up because she likes having a poke at me for becoming posh when i started in law!! I am the only barrister who can cause chaos just entering a court room!!Anyone who actually knows me (scats and blearyeyed DO NOT comment) know i am far from posh!!

Your water sounds really nice and like you say no tummy troubles when abroad. I really like fizzy water and hate still water. You srenprobably right it will appear in a posh london restaursnt where people are happy to pay silly prices.x

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KellyInTexas in reply to Yellowbluebell

Yes, exactly yb. I had a feeling you need a little help with your mother.

My brother in law did his law degree at UT Austin. ( University of Texas - Austin. )

He worked for the city of El Paso) DA ‘s office for a time.)

El Paso is a very interesting place right now. ( not.)

Yellowbluebell profile image
Yellowbluebell in reply to KellyInTexas

My mother is an experience all of her own!! I have 300 miles betweeen us for a reason!!

Sounds like i would not like working in El Paso. I still do law a bit but as a barrister i get to choose what i want to take on and for the last 20 odd years i have specialised in mental health cases. My mother doesnt like it because i dont have tv worthy cases!! I cant win so i don't tell her much. Xx

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pugrescue in reply to HeronNS

my dad got me drunk (at home) when I was 17, was so sick I have never touched anything alcoholic since. Get sick even smelling it.

Yellowbluebell profile image
Yellowbluebell in reply to pugrescue

My youngest got totally and utterly legless on vodka aged 16 with her friends. We picked her up and i dumped her in the shower and all she could say is please dont take my underwear off. She was hosed down given her pjs and she retired to the settee for two days with a bowl. She didnt touch any alcohol again for 8 years!! She does have the odd glass of white wine spritzer now but no spirits!! I did comtemplate allowing her to get tipsy with us first but she beat me to that experiment!!

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pugrescue in reply to Yellowbluebell

she adapted better than I did, I am now 67 and still not touching it. Might add that both parents and older sister were alcoholics, so that undoubtedly influenced me as well.

Yellowbluebell profile image
Yellowbluebell in reply to pugrescue

Oh believe me it has a huge influence on moderation or even abstinence. I didn't drink for a few years but do now but always in the background is that image of an alcoholic mother !! Not a pretty site!!

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HeronNS in reply to pugrescue

I did get drunk once. The psychology department was doing an experiment, probably wouldn't be allowed nowadays. They went around collecting willing students from other departments, paid us each $20. It was a memory drum test. One day you did the test without alcohol, only a glass of orange juice. The other day, and you weren't supposed to know which day it was it could have been your first or your second, you were given orange juice with 3 ounces of vodka in it. (Apparently some people thought they were getting alcohol when they weren't and acted drunk but I don't know how they couldn't have told the difference.) They were testing to see the difference in your ability to memorise nonsense syllables with and without alcohol. I nearly fell asleep before I was halfway through the with alcohol session and the test givers were worried about me. They drove me home. I was really silly and maudlin, then I got sick. So my curiosity about drunkenness was satisfied and $20, even in 1968, wasn't nearly enough to cover my misery.

in reply to pugrescue

For some reason getting sick never stopped me drinking. I had a job that had a drinking culture so that didn't help. I am obviously a very slow learner..🥴🤪😁

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pugrescue in reply to

I personally think the culture, or family and friends growing up have so much influence on how we establish our values later in life. My parents both being very bad alcoholics (violent & abusive) led my older sister to the exact same lifestyle till drunk driving killed her at 32. My older brother is the only "normal" one, he is a wine connisseur, likes a bit now and then but i have never seen him even tipsy.

in reply to pugrescue

Thats terrible. It must have been hard to go through all that. My older sister is like you, has never really touched a drop. Thankfully my parents didn't have such issues going on. I am very lucky on that score. It's amazing the number of people who tried to convince me to " go on just have one"...when I told them I was on meds that precluded drinking. None of those people are in my life now.🌻

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pugrescue in reply to

good for you, so smart to surround yourself with people who support what you need. Not so sure at this point in my life I went in as good a direction as you, I have surrounded myself with animals. Currently have cut down to 5 rescue pugs, due to this darn GCA. But a few years ago had 14, all senior all with serious medical conditions. Luckily hubby is also a bit anti social, so it has worked reasonably well for us.

Wishing all good things for you always Joan

in reply to pugrescue

Believe me if I could surround myself with dogs I would. One keeps me busy enough!

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Yellowbluebell in reply to pugrescue

My mum was the only alcoholic in our house and yet the influence she had on us all was horrific. Me and my sister used to sit at the end of the road after school and if we could hear our spaniel barking like mad, mum was drunk and time to go to the library!!! Years later me and sis were out for a night with our husbands and were giggling about some of things my mum had done whilst drunk and our OH were shocked we were laughing but sometimes thats the only way to deal with it.

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pugrescue in reply to Yellowbluebell

yes i do agree that many times humor will get us through things that seem unbearable. So glad you (and your sister) found a way to handle it, and live full and productive lives. Maybe it makes us stronger in the end. Thanks for sharing. Hope you have a blessed weekend.

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Blearyeyed in reply to DorsetLady

Definitely think that if you looked on my back most days there would be a sign saying ,

" Outside Warranty . Batteries not included!" 😋😂😂😂😘

nickm001 profile image
nickm001 in reply to Blearyeyed

It funny, I joked with my OH the other day and said similar thing - It seems that all warranty expires at age 65 :)

Blearyeyed profile image
Blearyeyed in reply to nickm001

I'm only 48 , but I think my warranty expired at 21!!😂😂😂

Yellowbluebell profile image
Yellowbluebell in reply to Blearyeyed

You never had one!!

nickm001 profile image
nickm001 in reply to Blearyeyed

Nah... You are just having midlife crisis :)

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bunnymom in reply to DorsetLady

Oh I thought you were going to say pred!

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Purplecrow in reply to DorsetLady

💜👏🏽💃🏼💃🏼💜

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Smokygirl in reply to Marijo1951

😂😂😂

Longtimer profile image
Longtimer in reply to Marijo1951

Nearly put moisturiser on my toothbrush the other day,.....well, toothpaste on my face....can you imagine!.....😏

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Longtimer

Wasn't there an urban myth it is good for pimples? Not true of course ...

Longtimer profile image
Longtimer in reply to PMRpro

They`ll have us believe anything....

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Yellowbluebell in reply to Longtimer

But most of will have tried it over the yearsaa

in reply to Yellowbluebell

Yep....

in reply to Longtimer

I almost used nail varnish remover to cleanse my face once! Since then I have wisely decided to keep my cleanser and the varnish remover in totally separate places!

SheffieldJane profile image
SheffieldJane

I’ve done that too. It’s like a clock winding down. X

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KellyInTexas in reply to SheffieldJane

Look at “anabox “- organized very well. You can pop out just that’s says and bring with if you need. Give it a google. I have to take a lot of meds so it’s very helpful.

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Megams

~Snap!!

Did exactly the same when taking night meds this week.

I emptied the bottle of meds to count remainder 3 times no less as could not remember 5 mins prior if taken or not - no grey matter left here me thinks;)

Now created ritual of placing capsule in lid -mark it off on calendar once taken ~

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KellyInTexas in reply to Megams

I was just commenting to Jane that I found a company- “anabox” - very good organizer of meds.

Jackoh profile image
Jackoh

I often get the tablets out, look at them and then get on with things and any thoughts in my head. Can’t remember then if I’ve taken them or what I took ( especially when reducing) Doesn’t make any sense really but then like others I know I’m not completely with it. Some days are worse than others: like others can’t remember names of things, definitely can’t remember folks’ names or where I’m going in a conversation. I tend to laugh it off and readjust what I was going to say. I like to think it’s the steroids!! - that’s my excuse anyway.

in reply to Jackoh

Thingybobs, wotsitsname, you know, the oogeebar nitknobbler all decent words and phrases I have used frequently on my PMR and fibro journey.

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KellyInTexas in reply to Jackoh

Just saying to ladies above- have a look at anabox- I found it a very good system.

( I have seizures- so am on anti convulsants, plus I’m on massive amount of blood thinners- I I must get that right. I can’t accidentally take twice. I could actually bleed out- so this has been a very good system to work with. Especially if traveling- )

Without my weekly pill box, I’d never keep the pills straight. It’s right under my nose in the kitchen where I can’t miss seeing it many times a day. Some days I do seem so addlepated. 🤪. Reassuring , but sorry it’s shared, that that part of my new normal is part of others. 🤗

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nickm001

I have a ritual for pred. After taking a bath ( about 1AM) I take pred out, set a glass of water in front of me and then log in date, time and quantity before I take it... Never missed or had questions about pred...

For other meds I dont do that and I miss time or forget dose for the whole day. Luckily they are not critical.

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