NAC and NAD vs. Betaine.

[WIZARD6787]

I did a trial of Betaine 2+ years ago and determined it did not have any effect. I revisited and determined it had no effect in the dose recommended on the product. I may have come across an amount based on weight, I do not recall.

I administered a total of 22.5 g per day dissolved in water over 5 to 6 times per day. That is what my many trials showed to be effective. 1 year +-

To evaluate, I used the level of ‘my stuffy head’. There were other overall positive effects that one was definitive.

I then administered 500mg 5 times per day dissolved in water. I administered 500 mg once a day and then increased by 500 mg once a week.

The first trial I experienced symptoms returning to the level they were a year ago. Through my many trials I am able to determine if the effect is positive even though symptoms get worse.

When experiencing under supplementation of B12 at 1.5 mg per day I experienced agony and symptoms were worse than ever before. Then my body would plateau at that level of under supplementing of B12. Through study, exploration and discovery I learned I would benefit from higher amounts of B12.

I do not believe the reversing out concept of nerves coming online is correct for all. The experience is real. It is a case of incorrect causation. In my case the cause was ineffective supplementation as evidenced by elimination of symptoms.

So it was 4 weeks of disruption to get to a dose of NAD that was more effective. It wore me out and I needed much sleep and rest. Trusting that I was correct and the change was positive was hard emotionally.

After 4 weeks I was pleased with my work.

I started a trial of NAC of 1g and it had an immediate effect. I choose to administer 1g 5 times a day.

The result was flashing in my right eye which I concluded was most likely my optic nerve healing and it resolved in three days. I then experienced my stuffy head for a few hours randomly and then it would resolve. Not unlike when I used to get lightning pain. It was weird and took a while to figure out. It was nerve wracking to experience.

I also experienced itching at first in my lower legs which resolved with the application of a cream with magnesium in it. Then the itching spread to my back and then my neck. No rash. I assumed it was my neurological system healing or possibly homocysteine being released.

Then I had an upset stomach. I am not at all prone to that. I do not do the take with food thing to prevent an upset stomach. Sometimes it is a matter of efficacy.

So at 6 days I threw in the towel. The feeling that I was making myself worse overpowered my intellectual understanding that it was likely positive and would resolve. Exploration and discovery is like that for me. Pretty much I hit an emotional wall and that sucked big time.

I abstained for a day and could tell that the most recent symptoms abated and the ones prior to starting the trial increased slightly.

I am now administering with food and taking a probiotic three times a day. I will increase as symptoms indicate.

I have stopped the Betaine as it seems that there may be a conflict and the NAC with NAD seems to be more effective for the same symptoms.

I do not assume that any digestive issues are the result of a side effect as I experience digestive issues that I feel are the result of my neurological system healing and my neurological system controls my digestive system. Most demonstratively when I first stopped severely under supplementing B12 the injections.

I will hang in there a while before I study for an alternative. It is also possible the NAC is healing my digestion. See NAC and digestion.

Some day I may post about my symptoms of under suplimentation , incorrect suplimentation, symptoms of healing and results of healing. Naw, too much work for the value to me.

Hey, if it was easy a doctor could do it successfully for the patient and not simply successful for the doctors. They have yet to do so.

[CRK1]

I am not familiar with NAC and NAD. Could you lease explain what they are?

[CRK1 in reply to CRK1]

Oops. I meant to write please not lease.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to CRK1]

Not well without a lot of work and then it would not be definitive.

I came to it from general study including anything to do with treatment of any neurological issues.

It was not really related to what is thought to be true about B12.

For me what was definitive was the way my body responded which included a temporary increase is symptoms.

I looked at your profile and saw that you discovered 5-P-5. Good on you! I find it likely many people suffer needlessly due to the incorrect information given about B6 without understanding there are different forms.