0.9 saline 1 liter IV infusion.

[WIZARD6787]

Last year I asked on the forum if anyone knew where I could get a saline infusion. Come to find out that was heretical and not done in the UK. 🙂

In the USA there are clinics owned and run by nurses where one can get infusions with or without vitamins of your choice. There are also mobile clinics. When I used to run marathon and 1/2 marathon distances I and many others would get a one liter IV infusion of saline after running that distance which DID help with time of recovery. I also have an IV infusion as soon as I can after any flight of 6 hours or more. Professional athletes have drips often although some agencies ban more than 100 ml IV in 12 hours as it is deemed to be performance enhancing which does not mean it is.

In Ecuador a nurse will come to your house once a month for 15 GBP with a vitamin solution.

I had an infusion last June and it did not have the desired effect, I was under supplementing at the time.

I had a 1 liter infusion yesterday and it had the desired and expected positive effect. The reason for this effect is unknown. I expect the stress on my body of the winter here and or the stress of my healing from more effective/appropriate supplementation are factors.

A saline solution is used to treat dehydration, it does not follow that a person who has one must be dehydrated although that is why they are allowed/prescribed.

To equate oral ingestion of water with adding 20% of volume directly to the supply of blood is not rational. Nor is expecting the medical field to accept or know it has a positive effect.

The effective result is most accurately described as positive and making up specific results has no value to me.

I will continue to have a saline IV when I observe my body is in a place where it will be positive. I will endeavor to have my body not get in that place.

The current cost is $75 USD without vitamins.

I enjoyed chatting with the nurses about those in the medical field and their experiences working in that field and the reasons for them deciding to become private and work outside the conventional system.

[Narwhal10]

What doctors, nurses and medics get up to in their spare time is on a need to know basis.

Drunk medics arrived home to find one of their house mates in the bath covered in blood. He thought it would be a brilliant idea to try and cannulate himself whilst completely under the influence. His friends realising not much harm was done. Just let him sleep there. He had a really good hangover.

Pre-drinking rule was 2 Zantac. Before sleep, 2 acetaminophen and a pint of diluted dioralyte which replaces your sugars and salts.

The aesthetic and sports industries here in the U.K. are separate and different. I know where you can get and what from.

Keep chatting and listening Wizard.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Narwhal10]

The stealing drugs is a big issue. Due to the fentanyl crisis in my state some facilities are being fined for not keeping good records in an attempt to curtail the drugs originating from the medicial facilities.

This has led to nurses substituting controlled substances with saline and injecting that into patients. No oversight so most do not get caught.

Likely worse in hospice due to even less chance of getting caught.

As always the perpetrators prey on the most vulnerable.

[Narwhal10 in reply to WIZARD6787]

Yes, stealing drugs is a big problem here too. Drugs are heavily abused.

It is a very sad state of affairs when nurses are just using saline instead of fentanyl. Those patients will not have adequate analgesia and will be in severe pain. It is just deceitful.

WIZARD6787, I live in a beautiful area. Yesterday, I walked out of my front door, to find 2 needles on the ground from the local heroin addicts. Plus, there are boxes of nitrous oxide bottles just dumped in bushes.

I did laugh with regards to your original post stating the word heretic. Yes, I am one of those too. Controversial, outspoken and satirical too. To date, I have not obtained an exact price for the infusions, you discuss, in various locations within just one city.

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Narwhal10]

>>The aesthetic and sports industries here in the U.K. are separate and different.

Same here the very very best are in sports medicine for professional athletes.

The medicial information is the most important criteria as to how a person entering the a league gets paid at first. Down to the size of their wrist etc.

[Hockey_player]

I find that green Gatorade helps me when I am dehydrated. Another option is Pedialyte (a rehydration solution often used for sick babies). pedialyte.ca/en

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Hockey_player]

I on purpose and with purpose was not writing about hydration.

The lemon-lime Gatorade green was the only flavor that contains sodium last time I checked.

It is an amazing story. At least to me. Gatorade was developed for the Florida Gators football team after it was determined the reason they were fatigued was electrolytes. 1965

The medical advice at the time was not to drink water before during or after exercise. We used to swish water in our mouth and spit it out as directed. Many marathon runners ran the whole race with no water as directed. Those that did drink water only a small amount.

Well as you can imagine the drinking Gatorade took the sports world by storm and is still a huge market.

Then came the 8 glasses a day advice regardless of size, activity and temperature. That was based on a 1950 study by one person that guessed the average American had 64 oz of fluid including in food, coffee etc.

I was working in FL when the 64 oz advice came out. It was laughable.

For reasons unknown my thirst response functions and I only have to watch when I swim due to osmosis.

[Rexz]

Yes, I too occasionally get a saline IV. Also, I often have ozone IV treatment to try and help tame inflammation, high dose vitamin C to help keep cancer at bay, Meyers cocktail IV, and if course my wonderful iron infusions. The iron infusions are the only IV that I do that is via prescription. I will have a Meyers cocktail just before my Rim-to-Rim Grand Canyon hike in October and one afterwards.

Oh yes, one more, phospholipid push for digestive system inflammation.

They do help me, I think... 🤯😆

Rexz

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Rexz]

Thanks for sharing that is helpful.

I sometimes go to a salt cave and find that helpful. I stopped during the pandemic. In theory breathing the salt infused into the air is helpful. I am not sure it is just not sitting in a comfortable chair and listening to music for 45 min with nothing else to do which is helpful.

Rim-to-Rim Grand Canyon is exciting.

[Rexz in reply to WIZARD6787]

I've not heard of salt cave before? Is that like an actual cave? I just started training again for my third attempt at GC. My hike is scheduled for first week of October. Last October I was not able to train due to iron deficiency. I was just too fatigued. This year I've a great Naturopathic Medicine doctor who's going to keep me tuned in...hopefully. My GC blog is at

mygcchallenge.com/about

Wish me luck.... Rexz

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Rexz]

I hope that that your preparation is effective. As close as good luck as I can come.

This is what happened. I saw an article in a local paper for a salt cave in New Hampshire. It freaked me out as a soil scientist who works with geology. If there was a salt cave in NH I had to rethink everything. 🙂

I read the article and on a whim tried it. thesaltcavebiensoigne.com/

I also tried a hyperbaric chamber without increased oxygen.

hyperbaricfitness.com/

Then again I once took an Argentine tango class. I do a allot on a whim.

[Narwhal10 in reply to WIZARD6787]

I find that very interesting about a salt cave knowing its benefits.

Years ago, I discussed the benefits of Forest Grazing. The phytochemicals that trees subtly give off can be extremely beneficial for all animals. Although, there are exceptions.

Unfortunately, the ‘doctor’ knew nothing about this because they have been so programmed by Big Pharma.

[Rexz]

I would try that. The salt cave, I especially with sound therapy. 😊