I received a call today from my current doctor of 2 months, letting me know that the helicobacter test came out negative and that my last blood test taken 2 months ago with b12 was very good (high). He then continued to say that he believed that my problems could be more caused by my head/mentality and recommended me on anti- depressants and to speak to an psychiatric. I reminded him that when we took the b12 test i had taken an injections the day before the tests. and even though my symptoms had improved since my 5 day b12 injections and stopped taking my B-control pills (symptoms dissapeared completely for 1.5 weeks), some of the symptoms are still there and some are worse. Like the numbness and tingling in my body has spread in larger areas. I truly understand the power of ones mind and how it can affect your physic. But would i have imagined all my symptoms that matches nearly all of the cause of b12. I know i'm depressed/anxious at times, im anti social and stay at home every day. So many people have kept saying im fine, that now im actually wondering if its all in my head. Im completely lost and im buckling under the constant pressure that its my depression causing it. And when i say: "The test is not accurate, i took a b12 injection before the test" no one listen. Am in denial, really hoping to have a physical illness, but in reality its all in my head.
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Throwing in the towel.
I have had helicobacter 4 times before, and was told last time that the accurate way was threw a stool samples since blood test only shows that you have had the bacteria, but not currently. This time i had to buy my own breath test (been told that this is the latest/accurate way of doing thins) which turned out to be neg. I still have the symptoms of helicobacter. I did feel so much better on b12 injections (although some one recently pointed out that i felt better cause i imagined it to work). Is there any way that you can test how your body absorb the nutrition? I find it weird that ive barely eaten for days, go to the GP feeling like a zombie and every results turns out fine.
I can really relate to the frustration of feeling ill yet having all your test results seem normal. One thing that even doctors sometimes forget is that the ranges labs use for normal are a bell curve. The healthy people fall near the center of the curve yet there are always outliers who are at one end of the spectrum or the other. It means that the ranges are not accurate for everyone. They are only accurate for most people. And, sometimes, the ranges for normal have been broadened so far in an effort to include every 'healthy' person, that they miss people who are not healthy.
Have you tried asking the doctor how he knows it is depression rather than something else? Has he looked at any other causes of nerve dysfunction to get to the bottom of the tingling and numbness? I would think that everything from spinal problems to diabetes would need to be ruled out before a doctor could claim it is all imaginary.
my mum have type 2 diabetes, and ive a home test to check my level. its low just above the line, but never dips under. i just told the doctor today on the phone, but he didnt seems to want to take it any further, and i didnt push at the time. was too busy feeling hopeless. He is leaving, taking his pension by september, so maybe i should start finding some one else. i also told him i have 2 cysts on my lower spine pushing on nerves that causes pain down my leg when it swells.
Yes, if he already has one foot out the door, you might as well start looking for someone better. (That sounds like dating advice lol.)
Good luck on your search.
Do you have any evidence that doctors get extra money for prescribing antidepressants?
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Do you have any evidence that doctors get extra money for prescribing antidepressants?
The QOF points system which is the source of some of a GP's income awards points for a depression diagnosis, and they also get credit for reviewing a patient with such a diagnosis.
See the blurb on page 82 onwards in this document :
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They also get points for reviewing such a patient with the goals of stopping any antidepressant treatment or looking for alternative therapies.
Nowhere does it say that they get money for prescribing antidepressants.
healthcareleadernews.com/ar...
"In mental health, learning disabilities and dementia therewas virtually no adjustment made and more than a third of practices were affected in half of the clinical areas.This change is good news for practices with above average prevalence their income will rise."
".....adding patients to disease registers can have a significant effect on income. This can be more than £100 per patient in mental health areas. Areas that have a lot of points and generally low prevalence will have a high reward for additional patients on the register."
"Time is short but the potential gains can be large. It is, of course, worth concentrating on where the most reward can be gained for the least effort. In most cases that means identifying work that has already been done."
"The two areas where each addition to the register is most valuable are mental health and dementia care."
"A diagnosis of depression in 2002 or even 1952 will increase the prevalence adjustment and the value of points without adding any clinical obligation to the practice."
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Just before her next injection was due, my sister was too weak to walk and and started to hallucinate. Her GP ignored all her physical symptoms, refused to bring B12 injection forward, and instead prescribed antipsychotic drug, even though previously it had no effect and only made her more dizzy. Despite all protestations from the family, B12 injections were then stopped altogether. Sadly, now in care home for dementia.....
They get gifted by these companies thats why you see a guy with large black roller case trying to sell at Drs clinic.
I got you got asthma, no I haven't!
Take one for free try it.I binned it!
So, you can supply a source?
What!?
The!?
Heck!?
Just look at any post by any admin and the chances are you'll find links galore.
No!
You made the claim that doctors get extra money for prescribing antidepressants, so the onus is on you to back up your claim with proof.
I say you're making it up and I have proof. You just need to google it.
I got it all the time ! your depressed !
No Im fine very positive, very happy just pissed at my body not working right!
And it went on and on and on.
Never had antidepressants never will!
Now I'm great no more symptoms not hooked on prescription drugs.
I work in emergency I see it all the time.
They put it in the too hard basket to want to nail issue just fling a prescription at people.
Shits me!
You have again completely failed to read and understand what you are replying to.
You seem to think it OK to expect other people to provide evidence of what you say. He is pointing out that the corollary is YOU should provide proofs of what he claims/states.
B12 levels 6 months after loading injections
Yey i love doctors ... NOT!
Update following GP appointment. 1 Month down the line.
B12 Symptoms or all in my head??
