Pain and tingling in hands

[Lynne27]

Hi I have had tingling in my hands feet and face for a long time now and now I'm having pain in the joints of my hands and some off the knuckle have swollen and look blue I've not bang them there very sore to bend I've had lots off test done and no one know what wrong I'm so clue less I just wish I can put a name to it

[Hidden]

Hi lynne27 I think u should go to u gp and get them to refer u to a pain specialist

[Lynne27 in reply to Hidden]

Thanks I've been too pain clinic and there not much there can do for me now

[johnsmith]

You have not said what tests you have had done. This makes it difficult to make any suggestions.

[Lynne27 in reply to johnsmith]

Just been told I've got fibromyalia

[johnsmith in reply to Lynne27]

Thanks for the reply.

nhs.uk/Conditions/Fibromyal...

Above is the site I googled about the condition.

You have given me a diagnosis. The same diagnosis with a particular set of symptoms can have a multitude of causes. All I can suggest is study yourself to see which can help and what hinders. For example, certain types of damp weather causes me problems. So when damp weather takes place I endevour to cut down the amount of stress I expose myself to on that day.

I am a believer in the stress breakdown point theory. In this theory performance follows the stress performance curve until you get past the stress breakdown point. At the stress breakdown point the body's engineering system starts to fall apart. When stress gets above the stress breakdown point you need to get the stress below the stress breakdown point. This is one of the reasons why a number of regimes that are supposed to help do not. Unless the regime you are using gets the stress below the stress breakdown point it is not going to work. This is why I use a multitude of different treatment regimes.

Fibromyalgia is considered the end with no cure by many. This is the result of the medical consultant who only uses one treatment regime at a time and never considers the patient as a multitude of different engineering systems. The medical consultant has never studied engineering.

Over contracted muscle produces pain. To reduce the pain and function effectively again the over contracted muscle needs to be lengthened out. The lengthening out can be a painful process. The body as an engineering system attempts to compensate for the problem of over contracted muscle and the compensations can over load the brain as well as causing sleep problems. Lack of sleep prevents fine tuning of muscle control with the result that there is more stress on the body.

Note: recent research indicates that the brain gets rid of waste product when it is asleep not when it is awake.

Extra vigilance causes the brain to be monitoring things that it is not designed to do. This extra monitoring causes the brain to reach a point where it has to shut down in order to recover. This produces the slow thinking and lack of ability of depression. There is a need to sleep/rest in order to allow the over loaded part of the brain to recover. Because of the interconnections between one part of the brain and another one small part getting overloaded can cause another part of the brain to be unable to function correctly.

One of the consequences of over vigilance is that the conscious part of the brain tries to control muscle function. This attempt at control has a negative effect. The muscles timings and muscle sequencing become out of sync which leads to more pain and extra stress.

There are many people on the forum who claim that they have tried everything. Closer analysis shows that they have tried one treatment regime at a time with no effective result. The reason for the no effective result is that the overall stress has not been taken below the stress breakdown point.

A appropriate sports therapist should be able to help with over contracted muscle. A McTimony chiropractor could help reduce some of the tensions in the spine which are causing grief. A yoga teacher can help put you more in touch with how your body works and thus give better control on doing things. An Alexander Teacher can help you look at how posture and muscle behavioural habit has an influence on your condition.

This is some of my thinking. Whether I am right or wrong is for you to investigate.

Hope I have been able to be helpful.

[Heltadelta in reply to Lynne27]

Oh I feel sorry for you Lynne. It's not the easiest of things to cope with.

Heltadelta.x

[Coastwalker]

Tingling in hands and feet is a 'listed' symptom of Vitamin B12 deficiency and also of Low Thyroid (Hypothyroidism) too, or you can have both together.

Not saying you have either, but that they are listed symptoms

Not sure about your swollen knuckles, but I vitamin D3 can be good for them. Vitamin D3 is an anti inflammatory.

[Lynne27 in reply to Coastwalker]

Thank I do have b12 deficiency and had it a long time he to have injection every 3 months going to see hand special now for the hands

[Coastwalker in reply to Lynne27]

Many B12D patients now take sub lingual/under the tongue B12 melts to help them through to their next B12 shot. You might already know this

[Lynne27 in reply to Coastwalker]

No I did not know this all I get is the injection every 3 month and now just been told I've got fibromyalia too

[Coastwalker in reply to Lynne27]

Hi again Lynn27. For Fibromyalgia, do consider the 'PAS' Pernicious Anemia forum site (also for B12 deficiency info and help) also Thyroid UK' forum on here on Health Unlocked. Fibromyalgia is a listed symptom of both B12 Deficiency and also Low Thyroid (Hypothyroidism) You mention you have B12 Deficiency already.

All my Fibro pains went overnight once I was on optimum dose of thyroid medication. (same can happen with low/deficient vitamin B12 once you are optimally medicated.) Many have both low thyroid and B12 deficiency.

Having any of these conditions you also need to check your iron, ferritin, follate, vitamin D blood levels too.

Drs are not good at pointing out that Fibromyalgia is down to Hypothyrodism (low Thyroid) or B12 Deficiency or even detecting these conditions, many patients are missed or overlooked and left to work it out themselves.

(Some fibromyalgia cannot be cured.)