anger attacks

[nsd_user663_20448]

:mad:

jesus i am getting some bad mood swings on day 17 is any1 else getting this ?

if looks could kill there would be dead body,s everywhere lol

nic

[nsd_user663_4625]

Hi Nic,

I think a lot of us have had a bad day today, me included.

What I do know is this, having a smoke will not make me feel any better. It will very probably make me feel worse. It will restart the withdrawal to nicotine & I am not going down that route again. I have somehow managed to get through the day with out completetly blowing a gasket. I am going to go to bed, if I am lucky sleep.

Tomorrow will be another day & a better day knowing I survived this one. I am sure you will feel the same as well

Gaynor x

[nsd_user663_20448]

gaynor you are great support you thoughts and words help me out thanks nic

ps how come i am not in your sig 2011 new years quitters group now that makes me angry lol:mad::mad::mad:

[nsd_user663_20815]

I am on day 15 and I've had more anger attacks today than usual..so must be a bad day, lets hope tomorrows a better day for us all

Tracey x

[nsd_user663_20448]

I am on day 15 and I've had more anger attacks today than usual..so must be a bad day, lets hope tomorrows a better day for us all

Tracey x

Hope its just a passing thing ,would not like to think i am turning into the hulk:confused:

[nsd_user663_21987]

I managed to keep the anger at bay most of the day. The difficult parts were entering and leaving buildings where you are just going throu the door, into the sunlight, and the picket line of smokers at the door give you a complenentary lung full.

So

So

Annoying

[nsd_user663_20263]

I had the mood swings last week...

that said, I did have a real go at my teenage kids for trashing the house over the weekend and arguing over emptying the bin when I'd spent the day cleaning to house up. I don't thnk that was smoking related though.

[nsd_user663_20591]

i havent been angry but iv been a bit depressed..i was just driving home from work and it hit me like omg...im never gonna have a cig again????!!! ru kidding?? then i took a deep breath and though how nice it is to take a deep breath and have no chest pain!! so the pros definatly outweigh the cons!! stay strong people..its a rocky road but we can do it 1 min at a time...lets get through the bad to get to the good...btw i get that lung full of smoke on the way in and out also!!b:mad: but then i think wait that used be me take care all!!

[nsd_user663_21987]

I know, but the angry part of me is convinced that there were no other smokers outside that building in December, and they have been flown in to annoy me now.

[nsd_user663_20591]

lol kwitted steve...flown in just to annoy u huh?

[nsd_user663_21987]

Of course, we all know how wealthy the tobacco companies are

[nsd_user663_20591]

lol...well they are not gonna make any more money off of me!!

[nsd_user663_20448]

lol...well they are not gonna make any more money off of me!!

nor me ,thieving git,s

[nsd_user663_20547]

Nic, and everyone else, hope you's are feeling better today!

Nearly the end of week 3, how well have we done.

*Virtual pat on the back for everyone*

Jill xxx

[nsd_user663_4847]

Morning All

Remember the rage I felt at times during the early stages, would say this is normal, as long as you are aware you can try to soften a little.

Might be an idea to have a look at some of the websites in my signature for advice.

Sometimes quitting is harder than others and feelings of anger were also felt whilst we were smoking we just had a fag and often ignored the internal rage that had overcome us.

forum.nosmokingday.org.uk/s...

From Joel's book P161 onwards -

New Reactions to Anger as an Ex-smoker

Dealing with emotional loss has similarities to dealing with anger

in regards to smoking cessation and its aftermath. When smokers

encounters a person or situation that angers them, they initially feel the

frustration of the moment, making them - depending on the severity

of the situation - churn inside. This effect in non-smokers or even exsmokers

is annoying to say the least. The only thing that resolves the

internal conflict for a person not in the midst of an active addiction is

resolution of the situation or, in the case of a situation which doesn’t

lend itself to a quick resolution, time to assimilate the frustration

and in a sense move on. An active smoker though, facing the exact

same stress has an additional complication which even though they

don’t recognize it, this complication creates significant implications

to their smoking behavior and belief structures regarding the benefit

of smoking.

When a person encounters stress, it has a physiological effect

causing acidification of urine. In non-active tobacco users, urine

acidity has no real perceivable effect. It is something that internally

happens and they don’t know it, and actually, probably don’t care to

know. Nicotine users are more complex. When a person maintaining

any level of nicotine in his body encounters stress, the urine acidifies

and this process causes nicotine to be pulled from the bloodstream,

not even becoming metabolized, and into the urinary bladder. This

then in fact drops the brain’s supply of nicotine, throwing the smoker

into drug withdrawal. Now he is really churning inside, not just from

the initial stress, but also from the effects of withdrawal.

Interestingly enough, even if the stress is resolved, the smoker

generally is still not going to feel good. The withdrawal isn’t eased

by the conflict resolution, only by re-administration of nicotine, or,

even better, riding out the withdrawal for 72 hours. This totally

eliminates nicotine via excretion from the body, metabolizing it into

by-products that don’t cause withdrawal. Most of the time, the active

smoker uses the first method to alleviate withdrawal, taking another

cigarette. While it calms him down for the moment, its effect is short

lived, basically having to be redone every 20 minutes to half hour for

the rest of the smoker’s life to permanently stave off the symptoms.

Even though this is a false calming effect, since it doesn’t really

calm the stress, it just replaces the nicotine loss from the stress, the

smoker feels it helped him deal with the conflict. It became what he

viewed as an effective crutch. But the implications of that crutch are

more far-reaching than just making initial stress effects more severe.

It affects how the person may deal with conflict and sadness in a

way that may not be obvious, but is nonetheless serious. In a way,

it affects his ability to communicate and maybe even in some way,

grow from the experience.

Here is simple example of what I mean. Let’s say you don’t

like the way a significant other in your life squeezes toothpaste. If

you point out how it’s a problem to you in a calm rational manner,

maybe the person will change and do it a way that is not disturbing to

you. By communicating your feelings you make a minor annoyance

basically disappear. But now let’s say you’re a smoker who sees the

tube of toothpaste, gets a little upset, and is about to say something,

again, to address the problem. But wait. Because you are a little

annoyed, you lose nicotine, go into withdrawal, and before you are

able to deal with the problem, you have to go smoke. You smoke,

alleviate the withdrawal and, in fact, you feel better. At the same

time, you put a little time between you and the toothpaste situation

and on further evaluation, you decide it’s not that big of a deal, forget

it. Sounds like and feels like you resolved the stress. But in fact, you

didn’t. You suppressed the feeling. It is still there, not resolved, not

communicated. Next time it happens again, you again get mad. You

go into withdrawal. You have to smoke. You repeat the cycle, again

not communicating and not resolving the conflict. Over and over

again, maybe for years this pattern is repeated.

One day you quit smoking. You may in fact be off for weeks,

maybe months. All of a sudden, one day the exact problem presents

itself again, that annoying toothpaste. You don’t have that automatic

withdrawal kicking in and pulling you away from the situation. You

see it, nothing else affecting you and you blow up. If the person is

within earshot, you may explode. When you look back in retrospect,

you feel you have blown up inappropriately, the reaction was greatly

exaggerated for the situation. You faced it hundreds of times before

and nothing like this ever happened. You begin to question what

happened to you to turn you into such a horrible or explosive person.

Understand what happened. You are not blowing up at what just

happened, you are blowing up for what has been bothering you for

years and now, because of the build up of frustration, you are blowing

up much more severely than you ever would have if you addressed it

early on. It is like pulling a cork out of a shaken carbonated bottle, the

more shaken, the worse the explosion.

What smoking had done over the years was to stop you from

dealing with feelings early on. Instead, they festered and grew to

a point where when they came out, it was more severe than when

initially encountered. Understand something though. If you had not

quit smoking, the feelings sooner or later would manifest. Either by

a similar reaction as the blowup or by physical manifestations which

ongoing unresolved stress has the full potential of causing. Many

relationships end because of clamming up early on effectively shutting

down conflict resolution by communication between partners. There’s

only one way to guarantee that early nicotine withdrawal never

interferes with your conflict resolution and communications skills

again, by keeping in practice your commitment to NEVER TAKE

ANOTHER PUFF!

[CamperPete]

Geez, i just got stressed reading all that

[nsd_user663_20547]

Mah,

Very good article, it helps to understand that we arent actually going mad, we are just suffering normal symptoms, sounds a bit wrong but its good to know other have suffered too (my sick side coming out lol) no but really when it is explained from someone who has been through it, it is a great help.

Thank you!

Jill xxx