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Hello all, what are your thoughts regarding circumcision on minors? Personally, I have no problem in adult male individuals undergoing circumcision as it is their choice, however I am in conflict after watching this video:

youtube.com/watch?v=ZfR_mMB...

I wonder if anyone could share their opinion about it after watching it? It sums up the reasoning on why circumcision shouldn't be done to babies or children.

*Reposting because my link to the post did not work.

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Sounds like you're trying to start a fight here is all.

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Micky887 in reply to

No, I'm not looking for that. I just want to understand the opinions of other men who have either gone through circumcision as an adult, or when they were younger. It pertains to their health as well as the ethics of medical practices that are done on men.

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Artyfartblast in reply to

Completely agree

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Artyfartblast in reply to Artyfartblast

Trying to start a fight

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I guess that either makes us "old" or cynical.

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Artyfartblast in reply to

Or correct.... there's a lot of intactivists about

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Micky887 in reply to Artyfartblast

So, do you have an opinion on this matter? I'd like to know why you believe that I'm trying to start a fight. I think it'd be good to understand what your thoughts are in regards to circumcision of minors, instead of not providing one at all.

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Artyfartblast in reply to Micky887

Go pick on someone else small fry. Your thoughts and opinions are irrelevant. This site about supporting men in making whatever decisions THEY want, not lecturing or cajoling them to make the ones you want. You're wasting your time here because we will continue to call you out on this.

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Micky887 in reply to Artyfartblast

I'm interested in YOUR thoughts and YOUR opinion on the matter.

I am supportive of men who go through circumcision as adults, but I also want to know what men who has been circumcised as minors have got to say. If they believe it was a good decision made by their parents, then I want to hear it. If they believe that they should have had a say in it, I would also like to hear it.

Shouldn't decisions be made upon research on such procedures? I'd like to think that men do their research before making whatever decisions they want!

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jimfromcalif in reply to Artyfartblast

Why so rude and defensive? Your right to alter your own body has not been challenged. This discussion is about inflicting body modifications upon minors.

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Artyfartblast in reply to jimfromcalif

This is a health site for adults. It is about supporting men in whatever decisions they wish to make, not about pushing views and opinions down their throats Go peddle your thoughts about minors elsewhere. I've read your contributions to the debates here and see you have an axe to grind. Lay off picking on men when they're at their most vulnerable.

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jimfromcalif in reply to Artyfartblast

You sound very insecure.

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jimfromcalif

You have raised a good question, the answer to which is that there is rarely a medical reason to circumcise a minor. The rare exception is to treat severe cases of hypospadias in which the foreskin is used to create an extension of the urethra. A diagnosis of phimosis in minors is unethical and false because nearly all boys are born with irretractile foreskins which naturally release and loosen with maturity. The small percentage which fail in that process are easily treated with non-invasive manipulation.

Without medical justification, circumcision of minors continues purely as a social custom disguised as a prophylactic step against future problems which largely never materialize, or as a need to fit into societal conformity, and, of course, the religious practice of a very small segment of people who impose the identifying mark upon their males. None of these reasons legitimately or reasonably supports the permanent mutilation of the body of another human, especially one who cannot give legal consent. The act permanently deprives the victim of natural protection during formative years and in maturity, of the subtle additional layers of erogenous pleasure afforded by the several thousand nerve receptors found only in the foreskin inner layer. In addition, severe trust issues and feelings of loss are common among those victimized young.

In addition to the clip you posted, other videos are available through YouTube to educate the uniformed. Organizations such as norm.org, noharmm.org, nocirc.org, cirp.org, doctorsopposinvcircumcision.org, jews against circumcision, and several others provide medical, legal and ethical arguments in depth, building a solid case against the practice. None of these organizations stands in the way of an adult male choosing to alter his own body for whatever reason he chooses. I stand ready to discuss the topic with anyone who is willing to discuss rationally and unemotionally.

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Micky887 in reply to jimfromcalif

Yes, which was why I wanted to know the opinions of those who have done through circumcision as adults in regards to circumcision on minors. I also welcome those who have gone through circumcision when they were younger to voice their opinions and share what their experiences are growing up. There are many sources and credible information, that one can make an informed decision upon, which you have pointed out. Thank you for that!

Thus, I really don't know why some individuals seem offended towards this post.

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Artyfartblast in reply to Micky887

More intactivist guff. This is a site where guys get support about any decision they make, not just the one that chimes with your own. Go back to the sites that allow you to bully and harass. You'll get called out here.

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In your original post you offended many by using the word ‘mutilated’ and you’ve since edited it out.

If you had genuine interest you would populate your profile and wouldn’t have posted the inappropriate YouTube link.

This is clearly a classic internet troll, please don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by pretending otherwise.

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jimfromcalif in reply to

You sound offended by truth.

Thanks for posting this video. Many people on here will know that I am pro-circumcision, that I was circumcised as a baby, and that my partner and I elected to have our two sons circumcised when they were babies. I am not going to get into discussions here as I have done that many times before. I know I am not going to convince people to change their views and I am not going to try to. In fact, I have no interest in changing other people’s views. I can only say that I have always been happy being circumcised and my sons feel the same. We were very happy with the cleanliness of the venue and procedure of our sons’ circumcisions. Incidentally, we would never have allowed a circumciser to suck the blood with his lips as demonstrated in the video.

It is important that all sides in this discussion maintain civility to one another at all times. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and a forum like this should be somewhere where everyone can post their opinions without fear of rudeness or aggression from anyone else. That goes for all sides of the argument or discussion.

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Micky887 in reply to

Thank you for your reply, this was all I wanted to hear from both sides. Their experiences and opinion. May I ask, do you think there should be a centralised database for circumcisions? I have tried to research this but can't seem to find any conclusions.

in reply to Micky887

Thank you for your reply. Healthy sensible debate is always a good idea! I don’t know if I have an opinion on a centralised database. I can’t see what harm it would do. But I’d be interested to hear everyone’s viewpoints either way.

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jaglad

I did reply on your previous post, but in brief.

I was circumcised as an adult for medical reasons.

I do not think there is any reason why babies and children should go through this procedure without a good medical reason.

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Artyfartblast

Check out their profiles, see how recent they are and contributions they've made before. They have a track record, axes to grind and opinions to force down people's throats.

Remember that this site is not a chat room to generate views and opinions. It is a site to support men in whatever decisions they make about their own bodies and health. If you can't understand that this may mean making decisions you might not agree with, either shut up or go elsewhere.

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enricom23

nobody should be performing non essential surgery on a non consenting person and circumcision is, by and large, a non essential surgery. simple.

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SnipperSniffer

Circumcision should be for consenting adults only. Children should be left with an open future.

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