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I just had a session with my therapist. I am not getting better. I am just holding on. She suggested I look into the new benefits of magic mushrooms, do my research since it has been legalized where I live. Has anyone tried this or ketamine? Does it help?

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I'm voluntarily participating in this global research initiative starting tomorrow. I just bought these 2 strains of Psilocybin 🍄 magic mushrooms. I have a VERY long history of Psychedelic recreational usage. I vape med marajuana daily for the last 12+ years for my mental and physical health issues. I have also used magic mushrooms for years before researching their efficacy for mental health treatment. I take ZERO Rx or OTC meds. I have multiple spine fusions in my lower back and neck. Permanent nerve damage on my entire left side of my body. Spinal Cord Stimulator implant for nerve damage. I cannot take painkillers or psyche meds. It's ironic that my propensity for recreational usage (self medicating) of Psychedelics is quickly turning into the Rx medicine I require to maintain my mental health perscribed by the medical community.

youtu.be/qry8K7KPHIQ

I suggest you watch this video on YouTube from earlier this month. It's titled "how psilocybin mushrooms can save the world" by mycological and psilocybin expert Paul Stamets. He's the Elvis of the mushroom world. I promise you will never be the same after watching this. If you're interested in Psychedelics for depression, THIS IS "The" cutting edge scientific research you need to see!

I did 2 Ketamine infusions in Feb '22 for TRD and anxiety. I pay out of pocket for TMS treatment every month and have been getting ongoing treatment since Feb '22, as well. I was going to end my life after 30+ yrs of untreated, undertreated and grossly mistreated mental health 15 months ago. I am a completely different and evolving, growing and, most importantly, HEALING, person for the first time in my life.

Psychedelics and TMS are the only things that have adequately addressed my mental health in any significant ways. YouTube is my learning platform for all things mental health. It's free and I educate myself daily on the disorders I live with so I can understand myself and my own personal relationship with these disorders so I can heal myself from the inside. TRD, GAD, ADHD, Trauma, eating disorders, body dysmorphia, childhood sexual abuse, addiction and substance abuse... anything you need help with, there's scientists and therapists, psychologists with amazing insight, tools and strategies to improve your quality of life.

Let me know if you have any questions. I'm always around...

Psilocybin 🍄 mushrooms
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Raggedy-Ann in reply to LifeIsThePitts

Thank you for your words and research ideas. I am definitely going to YouTube.

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iloverugs

I’ve tried both- ketamine in 2018 intravenously, and a psilocybin retreat just recently in March. I never found antidepressants effective, and therapy never seemed to do much good outside of the therapist office. I also tried ECT a few years before Ketamine, which seemed to do nothing but make my memories of that time period hard to recall.

Ketamine initially did wonders for me, but after about 6 months I was finding it to be less and less effective.

I just tried psilocybin at a retreat in Mexico, and it has helped me immensely. It allowed me to realize how important my friends and family were to me, and change my mindset from hopelessness to understanding I had nothing to lose to try and get better. It's hard to describe - I knew that before the retreat, but I didn't believe it.

That said, I'm wary that while psilocybin helped me change my perspective on my depression, I've had a similar experience with ketamine which didn't work for me long term. I’m working on trying to build upon the momentum it gave me to make constructive changes to my lifestyle and build support for myself so when I do fall back into a depressive state, I won't just be relying on a drug to pull me out of it again.

Here’s where I went for a psilocybin retreat: thebuenavida.net/

Hope this helps!

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dms5252 in reply to iloverugs

I was looking into the ECT this week. Very extensive treatments. 4 days a week for 10 weeks.Then when they emailed me the paperwork I started getting nervous about it.

Alot of sign this releases.

I'm going to try to use vitamins more. I have zero motivation. Its hard.

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iloverugs in reply to dms5252

I’m not trying to declare that ECT treatment is ineffective, as I know that it has helped numerous people with depression. Unfortunately, one of the biggest frustrations with mental illness is that a treatment known to be very effective for some people can be useless or even a negative experience for others.

That said, after my experience and knowing what I know now about ECT versus therapy with psychadelics such as psilocybin, I would recommend therapy involving the latter first.

Psilocybin especially was helpful in letting me find a fresh perspective on my life. It helped me understand that I had people that loved me and that there was still hope for me in the present and future. For me, the opposite of depression has always been hope.

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dms5252 in reply to iloverugs

ECT could be very helpful. I'd have to drive an hour & twenty minutes twice a day, 4 times a week. I have issues keeping a drs appointment 15 minutes away. That's my first issue. I have problems leaving my house right now

I have to conquer that 1st.

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iloverugs in reply to dms5252

The most important part is that you are actively trying to get help. And ECT has a proven track record with helping people with depression.

The instinct to clam up and hide has always been my biggest obstacle to getting better. I've developed issues with my back because I've hidden away in my room, unable to leave my bed except for using the bathroom or when I'm so hungry it overcomes my agoraphobia.

Motivation for me is a limited resource, which dries up fast when I don't feel well. I find sometimes that it's easier to go for small goals rather than big ones like “I don't have to leave my place, but I need to put my shoes on/get in my car by this time.”

Another tip which might sound silly is to build a routine around a regular appointment time, like stepping outside every day at the time you would be leaving for an appointment. Routines are very important to me, and perhaps what have helped me the most to stay positive.

Hope this helps!

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Raggedy-Ann in reply to dms5252

I have a hard time leaving the house too. If you decide to try ECT find someone to drive you. I had 21 rounds 20 years ago and I have gaps in my memory even today. I don't know how ECT has changed in the last 20 years. I hope whatever you decide to do will bring you some relief. I am still searching too.

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dms5252 in reply to Raggedy-Ann

I believe I am going to hold off on the TMS for now. I am still 'digging' trying to come up with something. I'm a bit weary of anything that might leave any permanent damage. My husband now has constant ringing in his ears from the Covid shots. One of the few enjoyments I do have is music. I love my music.

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LifeIsThePitts in reply to dms5252

bespoketreatment.com/which-...

Look into TMS treatment. I included the link to my clinic's website in Vegas. They have a lot of information on TMS for you to read about. It's 100% noninvasive. I've been doing this treatment for the last 15 months. But I pay completely out of pocket $9000+ so far and counting. ECT treatment scared the hell out of me with the side effects of memory loss. Seemed too invasive for my taste. TMS has ZERO side effects. I drive to my 7 min appointments on my way to work and leave as soon as the treatment ends without any recovery necessary EVER.

This treatment SAVED. MY. LIFE! I can't stress that enough...

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Barleythere in reply to dms5252

This is a good thing to read about ECT and TMSserenitymentalhealthcenters...

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LifeIsThePitts in reply to iloverugs

Hey...I KNEW I'd seen you in a post recently!! Please don't hesitate to reach out. I'm doing exactly what you are. Building on the momentum that our treatments have started for us. I lost my gallbladder in '21 and was forced to change my entire relationship with food. That in itself has changed my Life. I was forced to eat a whole foods diet not as a choice but as a requirement to not be adversely effected by nausea, diarrhea and bloating for days, or weeks, after my gallbladder was removed. I exercise 4-6 days a week, running, biking, pilates. Dogs get walkies every day, though. I sleep 8-9 hrs a day when I'm in a "Good" phase. I'll sleep 14 hrs a day when I'm in a "bad" one. My bed/sleep is my escape from reality and mental health pain... always has been.

ECT scared the crap outta me. That's why TMS treatment came into play when I was ready to end my suffering permanently in Jan '22. I've paid $9,000+ since, but I'll pay forever because this is the only thing that's allowed me to escape my mental torture. I go to a session every month for maintenance. If I don't, I revert to complete incapacitation within 3 months. It's that simple. For me, I have to follow the 3 pillars of health. DIET EXERCISE & SLEEP. Once I had that combo in place with the psychedelic meds and TMS, I've gotten my entire Life and FUTURE back!!!

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Raggedy-Ann in reply to LifeIsThePitts

THANK YOU. I try to eat non processed organic food. I get some exercise at my job. 2 hrs a day. routine is everything. I spend a lot of time sleeping. I am spacing out can't finish...

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LifeIsThePitts in reply to Raggedy-Ann

It's routine and lifestyle changes for me. Then more investigation and learning to continue growing further. Self care...I'm exhausted tonight. 830pm and I'm ready for bed. Night 🌉 sleep well

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Toddzen

I suggest checking out Joyous Ketamine. It is a daily low dose of Ketamine for $129. a month. I was spending up to $800 a month for 2 Ketamine IV Infusions. After 15 infusions my Depression hadn't improved very much. Maybe 5% improvement. The daily Ketamine tablets are much more effective and cost very little. The DEA is planning to attack TeleHealth on May 11. Sign up before the government blocks TeleHealth Ketamine Companies from prescribing online.

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dms5252 in reply to Toddzen

I read some on Ketamine. I also read a fee articles on the mushroom thing. Checking every Avenue. Thank you for the suggestion. 👍

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MochasMama

Hi Raggedy-Ann, I have Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety, ADD and PTSD. A month and a half ago I started Spravato treatments, which is the Ketamine treatments. I have felt it help so far. Not nearly enough but I'm still in the early treatment phase. I think, personally, it's a really good treatment to do. We all try a while bunch of different medications to help us and this isn't any different. Anything you can find that will give you a little peace of mind and find a little bit of calm is worth it. I hope you find something that will bring you some peace and calm.

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carparra1

Hello I have tried Ketamine for my depression and it really only took away that depressed feeling for 1 to 2 days then it came right back unfortunately. I am interested in trying the Psilocybin for my depression. Best of luck to you :)

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