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Weekly chat 20 - 26 November

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RealfoodieclubMarathon
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Please feel free to share your runs here and chat about how it's all going,

Sometimes we don't feel like putting a whole post up but just want to share something small, so this is a great place for doing that during the week.

If youre a lurker it is a great place to say a little hi without the pressure of a full post.

Wishing you all a happy and healthy week,

Juju, Realfoodieclub and Oldfloss

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Anniemurph profile image
AnniemurphHalf Marathon

I haven't run this week because of a bad cold so I have been planning my next HM. Last time I used a myAsics plan and some of you may have read about my occasional frustrations :D This time I'm considering one of the Garmin plans which look great because they tell me to go and swim or to do Pilates on the non-running days (I'm a sucker for being told what to do because I'm lazy). However, I'm in a dither. Their HM plans have you running by time and the longest it has you running for is for 1hr, then a 10 minute walk, then another 1hr run. My HM took me 2hrs 47. Do you think it's worth trying this one, with the option of faffing around with the plan towards the end?

I didn't do much cross-training last time and I should have done, because my core was tired on the longer runs and I felt saggy :D I'm hoping that A Plan will help prompt me.

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benwillMarathon in reply to Anniemurph

Never heard anyone do the Garmin plan but apparently, they are quite a big company!

But I would be cautious about doing with time rather than distance as people run at different speeds. Some might finish a half in the 2hrs wheres others will still have a bit to go.

But there are plenty of plans out there.

Anniemurph profile image
AnniemurphHalf Marathon in reply to benwill

Yeah, this is my issue with it. Nagging Nancy of myAsics fame at least had me running by distance, so I knew I could cover the ground. There were things I didn't like about her plan so I changed them, and I guess I can change the Garmin plan as well... or as you say, I can go and look for others.

Thanks for the advice, though - it confirms what I suspected.

Tomas profile image
TomasMarathon in reply to Anniemurph

If I was you, I'd put together my own list of runs to do, based on *my* abilities, *my* knowledge about how much my body can handle, *my* expectations or desires for time. You know, sort of a personalised kind of thing instead of a machine generated one-size-fits-all that makes sweeping but unknown assumptions. :)

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AnniemurphHalf Marathon in reply to Tomas

What, you mean, like... *think* about it...? :D Ack.

benwill profile image
benwillMarathon

On Friday I decided I wanted to see how far I could run at a good pace (5.30min/km-8.50min/mile) this would get me under the 2hr half or 4hr marathon. I chose a fairly flat course with some slopes at the start (Just like Brighton Marathon).

As it turned out I got disturbed by a couple of work phone calls so I had to stop a couple of times, but I got to about 18km and started to feel tired and then about 20.5km I was really done in but as I was so close to half marathon distance I need to get there, but my pace did drop in the last 1km. So I did pretty well in the end if I hadn't of had to stop for phone calls I would have got about 1hr 52mins for the half which isn't bad.

So on Saturday morning, I ignored the 62hours recovery time as suggested by my watch! I mean who looks at them it just shows how hard you worked right? But anyway parkrun my legs said no! and had to stop and walk back without finishing! my first parkrun DNF

oh the shame!

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathon in reply to benwill

Oh dear, never mind :) Well done for the speedy half!!

C3PO profile image
C3POMarathon in reply to benwill

Sounds like a good session! I definitely find I need to watch my recovery when I push myself.

Tomas profile image
TomasMarathon in reply to benwill

Wow, that's a great pace, particularly on a training run!

Like you, I tend to not always obey the suggested recovery time but racing the next day might be pushing the envelope a little too hard :) But nothing ventured, nothing gained, and you did great Ben!

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misswobbleMarathon

I would do the ASICS plan with it’s detailed sessions as a guide. If you do all the runs you know you have enough miles on your legs. You can be somewhat flexible with the pace times. I got to a point where I was happy to do each session as near the the pace time as dammit. It wasnt going to knock myself out though

On race day it’s anyones guess how it will pan out Your can either run and enjoy yourself, chatting, taking it all in, or get your race head on, head down, concentrate and crack on and for a time. I suppose it comes down to how cut-throat you are. I like the craic which is why I’m getting slower ☺️😊

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C3POMarathon

I managed another week of four workouts, but I'm still rebuilding my mileage. We had our first snowfall during my long run last week, and it was fun, although a bit annoying to get all that snow in my eyes. Hubby has found my skiing visor for me, so I'll probably try it next time.

Conditions for Saturday's parkrun were pretty mixed - with some fairly icy patches, so the race director warned us all to avoid trying to go for a PB. Luckily I wore studded shoes, so I felt safe on the course. The week before I got beaten by another person by one second, and trying to beat her this time got me running at a good pace. I eventually managed to shake her off, and ended up with a PB! My pace always drops when I run in studded shoes, so that was a very nice surprise.

Tomas profile image
TomasMarathon in reply to C3PO

Runing with a skiing visor, there's a novelty! Good to hear you kept safe despite the icy patches, they can be so treacherous!

Tomas profile image
TomasMarathon

I had a bit of a rubbish Sunday, so instead of my scheduled gentle recovery run I stocked up on beer, peanuts, crisps, ready meal, chocolate cake, bisquits, ice cream, and other wholesome sources of nutrition, and took an extra recovery day to kick-start this week which will be a gentle recovery week.

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roseabiUltramarathon in reply to Tomas

Awesome

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roseabiUltramarathon in reply to roseabi

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C3PO profile image
C3POMarathon in reply to Tomas

Sounds good to me.

Hillrunner2201 profile image
Hillrunner2201Marathon in reply to Tomas

That sounds excellent! I think I need to do this soon!

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Hillrunner2201Marathon

I've got a day off so (of course) went for a run. I did 15 miles but need to be sensible now and taper for a hm on Sunday and 10k the week after. I also hit my 2000 mile target for year today!!

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TomasMarathon in reply to Hillrunner2201

Yay! Congratulations with hitting that target, that's a looooooong way to run!

Fingers crossed for your HM and 10k. Are you targetting specific times, or just going out for a nice enjoyable run?

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AndyDUltramarathon

As I can't (still) go long distances non-stop I decided to do my long run on Sat with scheduled walk breaks (aka Jeffing) I completed 25k (15.5miles) doing a 3/1 Run/Walk regime. Still my legs were pretty tiered at the end although I'd fueled every 5k. Felt OK on the Sunday.. so that was a bonus!!

Ah well... perhaps I just need to do more of the same with a future hope to reduce the walking time and/or increase the running time.

Tomas profile image
TomasMarathon in reply to AndyD

Being at risk of asking a stupid question: If 3/1 makes you tired but feeling ok afterwards, then why would you want to change the ratio?

AndyD profile image
AndyDUltramarathon in reply to Tomas

Good point Tomas... I think I still want to cut down on the walk breaks as much as I can and I also have my first road marathon next year which will be another 17k!! Maybe I should play with reducing the interval to 2/1 or 2.5/1. Lots of time to experiment and play with the numbers or get fitter!! :-) For info, up to 10k I'm generally OK just taking the odd break as required... its just more than this I struggle a bit and thus doing walk breaks for anything above 10k appears to work so far.

Hillrunner2201 profile image
Hillrunner2201Marathon

Thanks! I don't want to put too much pressure on myself with times but I want to finish around my usual times. I'm getting a bit weary though after a lot of running in the last few months so fingers crossed!

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathon

This week I am mostly feeling knackered :D

I have started the asics hm plan a few weeks ago for the event next year. But life has got in the way today and I have fell off the plan. I am still hoping to get out on the way to collect kids from school but not as far as the planned 6.5 miles. Not a good start!

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misswobbleMarathon

Gosh everyone is super busy. Take care peeps!

Run walks are really great Andy! jeffing got me through my marathon 👍

Running on ice is scary! We had ice early on in my race the other day. Eek! Slip sliding away, slip sliding aw-aaaaaaay, you know the nearer your destination the more you’re slip sliding aw-aaaaaay 😃🏃‍♀️🏃‍♂️

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