Level of protection from the P

[TEDDYM]

With reduced immunity due to methotrexate, how much protection does the covid vaccine give?

[Ingrid1234]

According to various experts different vaccines give different % efficacy as measured in artificial scientific trials which is not the same as measuring % effectiveness in a natural community.

One thing is certain the vaccines are NEVER 100% effective or efficacious and even if you have been double jabbed or triple jabbed it doesn’t mean you don’t have to shield. People who have been vacced still need to be careful in transmitting the virus to others or themselves through bad hygiene 😢🥶. Social distancing is still very important and so are face coverings.

[PMRpro]

As Ingrid says - there is no answer. It can't be guaranteed to be 100% effective for anyone even for serious illness and for the original variants of the virus. Measuring antibodies only tells a small part of the immunity story - the t-cell and b-cell part isn't measured. The emergence of the delta variant rewrites it all anyway and at any time a further variant may appear that is resistent to the vaccine. The more cases there are of the delta variant - the more likelihood there is that a variant will emerge.

The original precautions of space, face and hygiene work against all variants to reduce the risk of infection - the vaccine is just part of the process of the virus becoming more like a really bad flu epidemic. But we aren't out of the woods by any means - and even healthy vaccinated people are becoming ill with the delta variant. And when you are out - you have no idea who has been vaccinated and who hasn't so you have to assume the worst.

SPACE - keep your distance, FACE - wear a mask all the time when out, HYGIENE - wash your hands.

[Ingrid1234 in reply to PMRpro]

Yes, absolutely PMRpro!👏👏👏👏👍

Totally agree.

We CEVs have to continually think of all these things. Thanks for all these reminders and observations.

Life is difficult with COVID-19 🥶😢…and so tiring 😪.

[Ginge1234]

I very much wonder myself to be honest ?