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Hi, hope it's ok to post this.

It isn't directly about fibro but it relates to fibro because it is having an effect on fibro, stress and photophobia which is fibro related.

I'm really stressed out about it and don't know what to do.

I am having issues with my neighbour parking his large motorhome outside my windows.

It completely blocks my view from my window.

Also when the sun is out it causes extremely bright blinding sun rays to bounce through my windows, which burns my eyes out. I have photophobia. (Light sensitivity)

I tried talking to him politely about the issues it is causing.

I put an apologetic note through his door and photos showing him the issues it is causing with obstruction and the sun rays.

I personally wouldn't feel right If I was causing these issues to a neighbour.

I would feel bad.

Today it broke out in to arguments,

I'm shaking like crazy with stress, he said I am out of order and I'm crazy.

He lied about me, he said he was asking around about me and everyone says I'm crazy.

Which is untrue because nobody really knows me out here in Aberdeenshire.

I come from Aberdeen.

Because I am also 90% housebound due to fibro so don't hardly go out, so I don't meet people, don't know people here.

Am I out of order for asking him not to park there and feeling upset about it?

Would you feel the same as me if it was outside your window?

I would feel bad if It was me causing these issues to a neighbour.

Photos of my normal view, his motorhome parked there and the sun rays bouncing off it in my windows.

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R-OD in reply tosaxcat

Hi I worked as a Housing Manager for 23 years, this makes me so cross that your social landlord has fobbed you off! There is absolutely things they can do. Your tenancy agreement will have a clause stating that you should not do anything to cause nuisance to a neighbour, so if he is also council he will have signed the same. If you have already spoken to your Housing Officer your next step would be to email them with these photos and explain why it is an issue, always email as it leaves an audit trail. If they still say they cannot help I would speak to your local councillor! I would also ask to be referred for tenancy support and/or their Anti Social Behaviour Service and see what they say. I would keep a diary with photos for a fortnight documenting this. As he has said he pays his road tax I have assumed it is parked on a highway. Good luck with it and message me if you want further advice x

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YassytinaFMA UK Volunteer

Hello what a nasty man, he is really not thinking of your view at all. Who wants too look out of the window at that eye saw 😞are you private or Council owned as if so they could maybe ask him too move it. As for people saying your crazy they do not know you so that’s being really childlike and mean, glad you have posted as we need too talk too someone. No your not being un reasonable he is and you tried too go about it nicely. Why can he not park it somewhere else grrrr, if not Citizens advice helpline may be able too help you, sending a hug over too you in Aberdeenshire x

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saxcat in reply toYassytina

Thank you Yassytina

It makes me feel better knowing I'm not the one that's out of order.

He said I'm being totally out of order and he pays road tax so can park there if he wants.

I'm council, I emailed them but they said they can't do anything.

They said phone the police :(

I'ts still getting to me now him saying I'm crazy.

He said he was asking around about me and said I was the same round there (meaning round the corner where I lived before here)

He said I was trouble and crazy.

Honestly I'm a very quiet neighbour, esp cos I have Hyperacusis.

I keep myself to myself, Im hardly out my house so I don't understand who could be saying all that about me.

Hugs back to you x

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AllthatGlitters

I wouldn’t be happy with that big motorhome right outside my window either. If it was on occasions it would be acceptable but if it’s all the time I think this isn’t acceptable in any way. Does he have a wife you can maybe speak to? Can you get someone else you know to have a word with him instead? Xx

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saxcat in reply toAllthatGlitters

Thanks AllthatGlitters Glad I'm not alone thinking this.

It's different all the time, sometimes he does go away in it for a few days or a week, but sometimes its parked there for hours, or all day & night.

He lives alone.

I don't know anybody.

Been living in the village for 4 years but don't know people coz hardly out because of fibro etc. x

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SpikeDinosaur

I'm afraid that however difficult it is for you and how unkind it is, your neighbour is legally right. If it's a public road then he can park on it.

You could see if there is a local mediation service that could help you to have a conversation about the problem with him. If there's nowhere off the street that he can park, perhaps he could alternate where he parks, so it's not always in front of your window.

If you have a blue badge and it causes problems for you when you go out, for example if the person coming to collect you can't park close enough, then you could see if the council can put a disabled parking bay outside your house. That would mean he wouldn't be allowed to park there.

Hope you find a solution.

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Dinkie

if you have a blue badge you can apply to the council for a disabled parking bay to be out outside your address. Anyone with a blue badge could park there but unless they have a badge they will be fined. Might keep him away from your window. The council will however charge for the parking bay to be applied to the road.

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saxcat in reply toDinkie

 SpikeDinosaur  Dinkie Thanks

I do have a blue badge and have my own motability car.

Every house/bungalow on the street has their own driveway.

He just can't fit his large motorhome in to his.

With every house having a driveway there is very little road space in between driveways/properties.

Mediation sounds good but judging by what he was like yesterday he probably wouldn't be interested.

I was talking calmly and apologetically to him about it and he started hurling lies at me calling me crazy and trouble, he was doing the twirly thing you do with your finger at your head when calling someone crazy. I was trying to defend myself by saying he was wrong and must have the wrong person because I don't get out much and don't know anyone , but he wouldn't let me get a word in, he just kept saying look at you you won't let it go your crazy.

To me he was the crazy one the way he reacted.

But he is right because I just can't seem to let it go, the false accusations is really getting to me.

I'm sorry :(

x

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Dinkie in reply tosaxcat

Bless you, I know how stressful bad neighbours are. Mine tried to run me over in her 4x4. She screeched up on my driveway missing me by about 6 inches. The reason - I wrote to the council objecting to her planning application to make her 4 bed, 1 bathroom home into a 6 bed 6 bathroom home. The site isn’t big enough and the application has now been refused 11 times.

I really feel for you.

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Braveheart1

you can certainly report it to highways department motor homes should not be parked on streets same with caravans - you have to have either a driveway or somewhere to store them. (It’s the rule here in wales) the parking/traffic department will not provide a disabled bay if you have a driveway so that wouldn’t be able to be considered.

Bullies always try to bring other people in to argument and that’s what he’s done by fabricating that other people are talking about too, don’t listen to it utter nonsense!

I have an elderly neighbour who kept having a works van parked outside her home and as you say given that you don’t go out much the view and light is all you have; she explained that to the neighbour and graciously he said he would do his best to avoid parking there! Why doesn’t he park outside his own window!!!

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Carlt in reply toBraveheart1

I'm sorry but you are wrong.

A taxed, insured and MOTed motorhome has the same right as any vehjicle to be parked on the public highway.

You can also park a caravan on the public highway if it is hitched to road legal tow vehicle (which could be a motor home).

Wales abides the same Highways Act as the rest of the UK.

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Braveheart1 in reply toCarlt

apologies very confusing topic but that was my understanding

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Carlt in reply toBraveheart1

I find it confusing and I was the Highways Engineer for a county council.

In this instance I would ring the council and ask for a site meeting with the highways engineer, or inspector, who (if he was a nice person, like I tried to be) would look at the problem and first try to find an amicable solution and, then gradually become more "persuasive".

If it is causing a real nuisance then anything up to painting double yellows is an option although that sort of enforcement can bring objections from other neighbours.

If, however, the Motorhome, or any other vehicle is parked on the footway then the police have powers to remove it (although they don't always assert those powers).

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Ontherun81

Hiya

It sounds to me like your neighbour is the crazy one! Dint let him plant that seed of doubt! Is he council too? There maybe a clause that prevents motor homes and caravans on drive etc. Contact local neighbourhood police team and ask them to look into it. It's rude and inconsiderate. There should be laws somewhere that prevent this as it can be anti social behaviour if Scotland has the same highways laws etc. As a former PCSO at West Midlands Police I have dealt with neighbour disputes like this and it can be resolved. If he is council too then here as we're council too we're not allowed caravans or work vans outside unless permission. Try again with Highways at the County Council. Good luck and as you say if you're housebound who knows you?! He's an idiot but unfortunately there's too many pit there!

Stay strong xx

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JJPenparc

Do not feel guilty. You are dealing with a very selfish individual who will say anything in an attempt to make himself feel justified in ignoring the significant upset he knows he is causing you. This is a matter that can be resolved by your local council and rather than making personal representations to the Highways authority I feel you would be much better served by enlisting the support of your local County Councillor who will have a far better chance of getting this resolved. You have my very best wishes and look forward to hearing of a successful resolution.

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Flowerinbloom

I have seen a similar case close to me where the neighbour was parking his motor home in his own driveway but it was causing light from coming through his neighbour and it was an eyesore to everyone in the street.

The council banned him from having it in the driveway so you definitely have a case here!!

Who would be so bloody rude to cause there neighbour issues, he knows fine well what he is doing and by saying harsh words he is trying to turn the tables making you feel you are being difficult when you are being completely reasonable.

Go to the council the police and then your local MP as he is causing a nuisance and disturbance to you and you have rights the same as he does!!!

Good luck and keep us all up to date .

X

He sounds nasty. Can you park in that space with your car? Put the blue badge in the window too.

Lemonia profile image
Lemonia

Would 'disability discrimination' apply in this case, if you think it does maybe you can report to police?

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Mrdiagnosis

Park your car there , then he can't park it there. You have just as much right if it's a public highway/road etc . He can't argue with that. ( Probably will) But make it difficult for him. Some people only listen when they are the ones inconvenienced so treat him the way he's treating you. Inconsiderate man.

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misspicky82

Hi saxcat

I'm sorry for what you're going thru but please don't take any notice of what he said, he's most likely making it up and he's getting what he wants by you worrying about it and believing what he's said.

Please get in touch with your council and ask about the disabled parking spot as others have said already and hopefully that will prevent him from being able to park there. If he continues after that you can speak to the council again and he will get into trouble for blocking your disabled space and possibly get done for anti social behaviour.

Good luck 🤞🏼

Angela 😇 xx

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Ropeydopey

You say the road is narrow, Can emergancy vehicles get past If not they can with the assistance of the police have vehicle moved. I'm in the service and we have done this before. Might be an avenue to go down

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Willow51

Hi Saxcat, I can only agree with what the others have said. I think he's saying all the nasty things to knock your confidence so that you'll let it go. He is an absolute horror. I would fight it all the way, I don't know whether it is the way the photo is taken but it looks to me as if the whole thing is outside your property, I agree with Dinkie, I would park outside your own house and stop him from parking there. Keep us up to date with the progress, good luck xx

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2hot

Hi I had problems with neighbours and wrote a letter to the local council after having no joy speaking to and writing letters to the neighbours. The council sent someone to speak to them and it was all cleared up. It doesn’t matter if you are renting or own the property the council or government officials are there to sort things like this out. If the council don’t help try your local mp. Sorry you are going through this. It is extremely upsetting and frustrating when things like this happen. Good luck.

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Nipper11

A big hugs to you 🤗 believe in your self your judgement is correct. Don't let this horrible guy make you think all sorts of things about yourself. You are the brave one trying to ask your neighbour to be aware of the issues which are affecting you it's a big vehicle outside your window is making you feel uneasy.

Stay strong 💪 and don't give this guy any more of your brainstorming energy because he is not worth it.

Talking Therapies may help you deal with the challenges and emotions around this situation.

Look up your local community website and sign up to talk to their teams who will help you and your mental heath which is key to stay strong in these circumstances and your illness you live with. It always good to share your concerns because your not on your own .

Everyone on this site will help if they can and that's a special kind of community who care and we understand each other.

Your Neighbor is being a bully 😤and therefore go through the route the members have told you to follow. God bless and good luck 👍 🙏 well done for speaking out xxxx

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cosmondo

This isn't advice, but I would likely make him WANT to move his van for many reasons.

I despise bullies, there are many ways you could ensure it is he, who wants to move the van in order to protect it.

Get creative, could be fun.

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Debsdelight72

I'm sorry you have to suffer saxcat,

It makes me really angry when people think they can do what they like, even if it is causing upset to anyone,

I'm sorry I have no advice for you saxcat, That's only because it would be a police issue,

Who does this person think they are? I'm sorry you have to live next door to this bully boy, You have been the bigger person and gone about the situation like a grown up and reasonable person who just wants to live in your home where you are safe and comfortable,

Grrrr He needs to take his thumb out of his butt and stop being a total chuffwad,

I'm sorry he's upsetting you, Us Fibro warriors need our rest,

I'm just wandering if just for now,you are able to close your curtains and ignore his little games which he thinks he's 'won'

It is by no means you giving up,It's simply recouping until you have the strength and information that you need to research the matter further,

Take care

Debs

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saxcat

Thank you all.

So many replies.

Sorry I have not replied.

I am in a mess with pain & stress from another situation.

I will try reply soon.

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