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hi, me again..

All your advice last time was truly amazing so, I’m back!

My husband keeps saying exercise and diet will make me better but he also thinks I need to loose weight and get fitter (which I do)

How do you start? I have no motivation at all, I can’t seem to do anything.

work tires me out. House work tires me out. How on earth can I then start exercising? Has anyone found a beneficial exercise, how did you get started?

Also, diet. My research has basically found out I can eat lettuce and drink water. - I’m being dramatic but basically cut out everything.

I am trying to get into mindfulness and meditation which I don’t actually know if it is helping.

I am relying on, medication, heat patches, caffeine, salt baths, heat cream and weighted blankets.

My lifestyle is not ideal, I get that and I know I need to be healthier but it’s really hard habits to break specially when I’m exhausted and in agony, not to mention the brain fog!

Thanks in advance. X

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Hi, after stopping working out when it was too painful (just before I was diagnosed with fibro a few years ago) I'd put a couple of stone on and felt really unfit. So earlier this year I started swimming. I increased the number of lengths each time and over a couple of months I'd increased my fitness enough to be able to get back into classes and the gym.

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NewToFibrox in reply to Camille1

that’s a really good idea, I went swimming with my husband the other week to a lane swim, I could only manage 10 lengths with breaks. He’s was literally doing circles around me. I got really embarrassed that I wasn’t doing much and now I’m scared to go back. I want to start w class of something but I’m nervous/anxious I will embarrass myself. I am not majorly over weight but I certainly carry too much and need to get healthier for myself but it’s so overwhelming xxx

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Camille1 in reply to NewToFibrox

I started at 10 lengths and increased each session until I could do 72 lengths! I've never been a great swimmer, but somehow I could just keep going! I find the first 10 are the hardest as you're warming up, but then they get easier. Stick with it, you'll feel so much better for it. (Make sure you stretch after). You could try spinning too, you control the resistance of your own bike, so you can start off easy.

Don't feel that you will embarrass yourself; you'll be working on improving your physical and mental health and everybody is in their own world with their own insecurities, they really don't pay attention to those around them :)

You could also see if you can access free weight loss and physical activity programmes through your GP surgery, a lot of councils are offering them now. I did the 12 weeks healthy eating one in an online group and it was really useful.

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NewToFibrox in reply to Camille1

72 lengths is incredible! Well done!

I must go again, my motivation is so bad.

Yeah, your right. No one cares, I know i don’t look at anyone else’s I just have really bad anxiety.

My GP is well than useless sometimes about the local things they can offer but it’s worth an ask xxx

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Oshgosh in reply to NewToFibrox

please don’t be embarrassed.It doesn’t matter what others think.

Start small and work your way.

I go to the gym compete with Walker and oxygen concentrator.

Have fractured vertebrae and lung fibrosis,I’ve had to stop thinking about what others think .

Just do what you can xx

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saj01 in reply to NewToFibrox

Hi... Well that was a start... an a great improvement on nothing, so don't beat yourself up. If you're embarrassed, is there a ladies only session you could go to? I loved going swimming before fibro... but now they've put the ladies session at 6 a.m. in the morning instead of 7pm.!! Great, not a lot of help to me. Your gp surgery should be able to refer you for exercise, so do ask about it. I wish I could get rid of the bouts of exhaustion that suddenly overwhelm me.

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NewToFibrox in reply to saj01

unfortunately not and lane swimming that I went to that time was at 8pm- 10pm but Jesus, that’s well into my bed time as I take medication to sleep.

Another lane swim is 6am however, who is up at that time?

Motivation is so hard to get xxx

in reply to NewToFibrox

When I go to the pool, it is by myself.

I don't need someone encouraging me or making me feel inadequate.

Your body is your body, not anyone else's.

Your weight and fitness is dependant on many factors such as your age, body capacity, health, nutrition, work-load and fatigue, amongst others. Not on someone else's opinion.

Comparing, particularly to a male body is erroneous.

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Hazel_AngelstarAdministratorFMA UK Staff

hi, firstly can I say that while exercise and healthier eating can help - it may not necessarily lead to 'making you better '

Swimming is a good exercise - and it sounds like you took your time and placed yourself - that is important, because you need to go at your pace, but the pace of everyone around you

Tai chi, yoga etc are also recommended - but again you need to pace yourself, even if that means that you do not complete the full class.

A few years ago I trained to do a 5k for FMA UK. I started off doing 2 minutes on the treadmill - and while this felt like a waste of time going to the gym to start with, within a couple of weeks I was ready to start gradually increasing my time.

Diet wise - unless you are intolerant to a food and its aggravating your symptoms, then there is no need to avoid it in your diet. You could keep a food /symptom diary for a few weeks to see if there are any patterns between food groups /symptoms. Then you can try eliminating food that you think might be causing issues for about a month, then reintroduce. If you feel better not eating the food then avoid it in future, but why restrict yourself just because someone says it helped them xxx

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NewToFibrox in reply to Hazel_Angelstar

congratulations on doing the 5K that is truly amazing!

You’re message has lifted my spirits, you are correct at doing stuff at my pace. It’s just embarrassing when my husband is like “I’ve done 4 lengths while you’ve resting, come on you’ll get cold” I think maybe going by myself at quieter times might help.

I know bread is awful for me, again with a diet I am trying to eat “colourful” foods.. i see what you mean by if it doesn’t effect my symptoms. I’ll definitely keep a diary to see what happens.

Thank you :) xxx

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Hazel_AngelstarAdministratorFMA UK Staff in reply to NewToFibrox

thanks - it's something I never thought I would do - and ended up doing another one, and a 3k the following year.... Saying that, mobility now means I struggle to walk 5 mins let alone 5k (but I askari know that with effort and perseverance I could increase that again)

Would hubby read information on fibromyalgia and pacing? (or let him read this) Perhaps if he realised that by encouraging you to do more, he is more likely to push you into a flare - whereas you doing your own pace and resting in between is more likely to benefit you, and with time you will likely be able to increase how many lengths you can achieve.

I have a few foods that I know will affect my stomach /ibs symptoms, so so my best to avoid them... But avoiding them does not do anything for my fibromyalgia (although if I cheat and do eat them, my ibs symptoms often lead to a fibro flare too)

It's trial and error finding what works best for you, and finding the right balance of activity and rest xxx

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NewToFibrox in reply to Hazel_Angelstar

you are truly incredible, well done you.

My husband reads something if I force him too but doesn’t take anything in. So, it’s just his philosophy that dieting and exercises means you’ll never get poorly or have mental health issue etc.

that’s true, like bread for me is just a no - go simply because I struggle with Ibs then, a flare. Xxx

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CheetieCat

Hi, have you ever tried a vibration plate? I know some people can't tolerate them but I've used them for years. I find them so good for my muscles,

Start off just standing on it for 3 minutes at the lowest setting then build it up. You can do an intense workout in 3-10 minutes at a higher setting once you're used to it.

Best of all you can do it in your pj's, no gym clothes needed 🙂

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NewToFibrox in reply to CheetieCat

no I never had, what a great idea!! Xxx

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Makie-Uppie

I just do everything I can, and I mean everything even if it appears nuts. It stops the 'poor me' in its tracks and has been known to create something useful now and again.

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Gigiruth

HI NewToFibro

I am trying to loose weight after a 3.8 stone gain. Sometimes exercise feels impossible but I have accepted anything is better than nothing.

I bought a watch that measures sleep and improved my sleep too. This has helped with energy to exercise.

All the best

Gigi

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NewToFibrox in reply to Gigiruth

hi,

I am really struggling to get motivated.

I have one of them watches but I can’t sleep in it, so that annoyed me! Haha!

You’re correct with anything is better than nothing, I’m just so scared of the aftermath of pain xxxx

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Scout2000

Hi!

When I started researching diet and exercise to help with my symptoms I too then had very little motivation to push past the fatigue and actually do any of the things recommended! I think when finding a starting point it can be very overwhelming especially with diet I just thought god they’ll be nothing left for me to eat😂

The way I’ve dealt with this is just to focus on one small thing/aspect at a time. I introduced vitamins into my daily routine and once I then took them without thinking I then made small changes to my diet. Focusing on one small thing definitely gave me more motivation and a sense of achievement once I’d been doing it consistently.

I applied this same idea to exercise which I had even less motivation for. There wasn’t any activity I could convince myself I would enjoy, so instead just to start myself off I would walk the longer route to work, then I started walking on my lunch break. Even this small increase in exercise helped my symptoms and put me in a better mindset to possible start something else like swimming or yoga!

Hopefully you find the right thing for you 😊x

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NewToFibrox in reply to Scout2000

you sound exactly where I am at the moment, I am completely overwhelmed!

Im trying to do a calorie deficit as my work is now less active due to a redeployment for my health.

I think I might start like you, park a little bit further away from work. Even just once w week.

I should just do one thing at a time xx

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Out22

morning,keep positive,Try bite sizing your house work rest in between jobs reward your self with a warm drink .

I found a referall to a gym dont panic its only gentle stretching .A warm shower to loosen the stiff musles can help.

List the jobs you need to do,then the ones you would like to do,

Keep a journal, to help you understand whats happening.

Exersise well start by walk up stairs ,after your shower.

Each day is different,

Keep smiling because it makes you feel good.

All the best hope this helps.

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NewToFibrox in reply to Out22

thank you for your positivity, sometimes it’s easy to loose when I am overwhelmed.

Walking upstairs is a good one but, after 2 I’m completely buffered.

I do lists, and I do beat myself up when I don’t complete them. This is something I am struggling with xxx

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Out22 in reply to NewToFibrox

hi reward your slf on what you havr achived.

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khaleeseebrown1

I use mindfulness regularly it helps me relax, I can't tolerate the side effects from most medication and I found they don't do much for the pain . I still do light housework but it's with rest in-between. I found tai chi really good I started on a chair worked my way up to standing and travelling the room , near a wall I must admit . I walk dog in park lots of benches and I know every 1 lol . I do aqua 3 days a week and it's so beneficial if I miss a class I really feel it . I'm looking for a yoga class next but I'm unable to get up off floor safely so has to be chair yoga a lot of the classes stopped with covid and hasn't received any funding for more . I put on weight since my back injury due to meds and mobility issues and I can't shift it . Lots of people and medical professionals are full of advice and you feel hopeless and lazy I can swear I rarely eat junk food hate fast food my only vice is coffee no sugar and they want me to stop that lol. I have to increase my protein intake I'm not a vegetarian but don't like meat or eggs I have no idea how to lose weight lol . All I can do is keep moving

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NewToFibrox in reply to khaleeseebrown1

I am the same, I don’t eat great amount of junk food, I don’t have take out and I’ve gained so much weight suddenly in 7/8 months I guess due to medication, I’m not sure and now I can’t move it! I live of coffee and heat… but the motivation to get moving is so hard for me as I’ve never been incredibly active but always had really physical jobs and now, I am desk based.. the weight will not move!!! Xxx

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penny

My experience is, that if one is hypothyroid there is no point trying to lose any weight until optimally medicated; dieting is not recommended until properly treated. (I used the 5:2 method to lose weight.) Luckily, my fibromyalgia is not too bad and I can cope with the level of pain and muscle weakness even if I am frustrated at my inability to do things.

Having heard about intermittent fasting and its benefits for cellular health, among other things, I started this some months ago and have found it easy to do; weight has come off even though I was not overweight to start with. Dr Mobeen Syed has a YouTube video where he interviews Dr Paul Marik about intermitttent fasting as well as information about IF in autophagy (the removal of damage) ; there’s lots of information on the internet.

Swimming has been a no-no for me as I have a bad back and am unable to swim on my front, I don’t do backstroke, and immerse my head, which is necessary for keeping a straight back, otherwise one can damage ones neck and back. Good for you that you can do this.

Best of luck

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Lulu_Lollipop in reply to penny

Penny, I'm interested in 5:2. I did it back in 2015/16 and lost the weight I wanted to. Then multiple life-changing events happened and I lost even more weight without trying or wanting too. Since life has become more settled I've ended up about 2 stone more than my "happy weight" and I'd love to do 5:2 again. What do you eat on your low days? I used to have egg and salad for breakfast, then a bit of meat and salad again for lunch and meat and veg for dinner. I'd love to hear how others do it too.

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NewToFibrox in reply to penny

thank you for all you advice. I’ve gone from physical jobs to desk based since my symptoms have got more severe and more medication which is piling the weight on drastically and I’m struggling so bad to get it off and it’s infuriating and motivation has just gone completely xxx

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penny in reply to NewToFibrox

Have you looked up intermittent fasting? I have breakfast at 14:00 and finish eating by 18:00; doesn’t have to be that restrictive but it works for me.

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Purplebluebell

Hi,

Maybe look up Nordic walking UK and see if there is an instructor in your area as they do "Wellness" classes which are outdoors and involve stretching and balance.

You could build up from there. Nordic walking do gentle walks as well as the more strenuous stuff.

Re diet look at NHS healthy eating site for advice or even join Slimming World which is a very supportive way to ease the weight down if that is needed.

Good luck! Being more active does increase energy!

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penny in reply to Purplebluebell

I joined Weight Watchers before my diagnosis and they were useless; accused me of lying as I didn’t lose any weight.

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fabpup01

Hi

It is all very daunting for anyone starting out on this journey. I personally walk our dog every day, even on the days I don't feel like it. It definately helps my state of mind, I get to see other people and the fresh air does have a positive effect. You could also try gently stretching and if you suspect it will help overhaul your diet to include more fruit and veg and try to limit any processed foods. Good luck with it all.

hi

I started slimming world last year (November) and i have lost just over 2 stone. You can still eat plenty on the plan..its definite not a diet!

I also work so don't really fit in exercise apart from walking everywhere and occasionally going swimming. Any other exercise just hurts or I'm too tired to do anything. X

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NewToFibrox

my husband thinks exercise fixed everything but I’m not a fitness person. I’ve always had really physcial jobs until my diagnosis after a long stint off sick due to my illness… now I’m desk based and I think that doesn’t help my weight gain. Xxx

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Bar123ney

hi you do what you can. That’s what I do if your tired one day rest, and don’t be hard on yourself. It’s hard most days but you will get there. Being on this website helps as people understand. Take care hope you feel better soon. xx

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NewToFibrox in reply to Bar123ney

I need to stop beating myself up. You’re correct in saying rest when need too. I’m killing myself trying to keep up these days. Xxxx

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Jaycee18

be proud of what you have achieved, rather than beat yourself up about what you haven’t. More of a done list than a to do list. I think when a to do list is too long it can get overwhelming and you end up achieving less or maybe nothing at all because you just don’t know where to start. A done list on the other hand can surprise you by showing what you have achieved, without even really thinking about it.

You swam 10 lengths that’s great, maybe next time it will be 12 but don’t feel bad if it isn’t. Do housework in small bursts and rest in between, the world doesn’t end if the house isn’t immaculate. Desk jobs can be difficult, being sat in one position for long periods isn’t good for fibro let alone weight gain. Try to stretch regularly and get up and move around a little, I used to pace up and down while on the phone and there are lots of easy stretching ideas online, just Google desk stretches.

Plan your meals and keep easy healthy options to hand. I often cook a double portion and freeze half for when I’m having a bad day.

Take care and be kind to yourself x

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Chloe789

I know its hard to start, but walking is a good start. You can just walk to the end of the road and slowly build up how much walking you do.

Swimming is good too, as it supports your whole body. Again you can increase the amount you do slowly.

Pilates and Yoga are good too. Do restorative if you can find a class that does that, its more gentle on the body.

Hope these ideas help.

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NewToFibrox in reply to Chloe789

thank you, I’ve spoken to someone from a yoga class and she says it will help me and willing to work with my pain etc so I’ve signed up from the 3rd November x

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SweepSooty

hi, when I was first diagnosed with fibro I was sent on a course at hospital to learn more about fibromyalia, for me the course didn't do much but I did find out about a local arthritis self help group that did aqua aerobics at my local pool, that was 15 years ago and it's the best thing I've done, not only the aqua aerobics twice a week which is specifically aimed at people with arthritis but the social side as I've made some amazing friends all who know what's it like being in pain all the time. If possible I would try to find a group to join as being with other like minded people can help and encourage you.

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NewToFibrox

I’ve just spoke to someone from a yoga group who say they do like an adapted version for people in pain but I don’t really know what it is about. The social side I no longer have because I appear flaky as I always have to cancel plans, I guess people have just stopped asking now xxx

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