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3rd failed icsi cycle - wanting to jump back on my next cycle end of April but all i can think of right now is having a drink (maybe stress) , i haven't had a drink since NYE and hasn't changed the outcome of my cycle - would you have a drink this weekend or stay strong and do probably the right thing by staying away from the booze?

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Millbanks

Hi lovely, I have done several cycles and I can honestly say that a glass of wine here and there hasn't made any difference. Ultimately we'll never know if maybe we could have got 1 more embryo if I'd not had a glass of wine, but I think it's unlikely. Given what you've just been through I would wholeheartedly say you deserve a glass or two! Just maybe don't go mad... xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Millbanks

Yes thats where i am not too sure what to do as my personality is such a all or nothing way of living and can never just have a couple so maybe best staying away 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️ xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Hey sorry for more of a personal question but i can see from your bio that your tubes are clipped due to hydrosalpinx same as me... Do you think the liquid which is in our tubes before been clipped could damage the egg quality... Im just trying to think of different reasons why the embryos aren't growing etc? Sorry if this question is invasive or if i upset you i really dont mean too xx

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Millbanks in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

No problem - I don't mind you asking! I don't think so, as the eggs are follicles until they mature and released - so I would think they are protected. We don't seem to have any issues with creating embryos, just getting them to stick!! I am having immunology tests done and also had an ERA which showed I needed 24 hours of extra progesterone before transfer - so there are lots of different reasons for transfers failing. xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Millbanks

Ok thats good as that ia something that has concerned me 🤷‍♀️ i am going to get additional testing to try figure out what an earth os happening xx

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KiboXX in reply to Millbanks

100000% this. If a glass of wine will relax you then go for it. I genuinely believe stress is far worse for you xxx

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Lovemylion

I'd definitely have a drink if your not in the middle of a cycle? I think it's all about self love and self care. I wouldn't go crazy as this might make you feel worse emotionally, but a glass or two isn't gonna do anything. We put our lives on hold for such long periods of time and tbh living like a nun hasn't improved any outcomes for me. Everything in moderation. Xxx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Lovemylion

Thank you, its all down to whether i can trust myself that if i have a drink its a limited one when honestly all i want to do is get blind drunk and forget about all this for one night but you are right because what comes with that is the complete feeling of failure the next day that you are the worst person in the world and of corse it will not happen because i have zero self control and dont no the meaning of a civilised drink 🤷‍♀️ xx

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Lovemylion in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

O bless you.if your feeling like you can't control the amount today it might be best to avoid then for your own mental health. You know what's best for you. I always reward myself with a couple of glasses of red wine 🍷 after a failed cycle. This journey is so shit at times. Sorry your having such a hard time. Xxx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Lovemylion

Yes im a binge drinker, i drink to get drunk which is why i completely avoid it between cycles but with this been the 3rd im just over it if that makes sense but im sure when it comes to it i wont drink think im just trying to make myself feel better by thinking about getting drunk this weekend!!xx

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Lovemylion in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Give yourself a break xxx

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JulieOcean2

Hey! I had 3 transfers. The first 2 I completely avoided booze and any foods ur warned off. My 3rd transfer I was just feeling a bit down in the dumps and the weekend before my transfer I went out with my chums and had a full on night out. Not going to lie had a great time the first time I hadn’t been stressed out in a long time. Had my transfer a few days later and now I have an almost 2 year old.Obviously wouldn’t really recommend getting sloshed 🤣 but I think if having a few wines calms you down I don’t think there’s any harm in it. Stress is a harmful thing in itself xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to JulieOcean2

Yeah i thought about having a drink between EC and transfer (didnt get to transfer) as theres not much else you can do for the eggs but i didnt feel too great afyer this EC - i think i might have a few this weekend i think its all down to not been dehydrated isnt it? Infact i have no clue haha!! But its lovely that you now have your baby 🤍 xx

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Core

Definitely have a drink this weekend hun, one drink this weekend won’t affect your next cycle and you’ve defo earned it. Sending a big hug for your failed cycle xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Core

Thank you ❤️xx

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Nuszkahope

I would definitely have a drink x If you don’t drink in excess you will be absolutely fine, will not make any difference xx You need to have some fun from time to time, it will do you good x

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Nuszkahope

Yeah what is not drinking in exess 🤦‍♀️😂?! A bottle of wine or just a glass thats where i need help xx

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Nuszkahope in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Ha ha, don’t worry I am not an angel myself, it never ends on a glass or two for me either... but If you are not stimulating or transferring and embryo in a week, just go for it ... you deserve some fun! IVF is so hard, it will not make any difference xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Nuszkahope

Yeah i think i just need a release but will no doubt have one drink and feel guilty and that will be that 😂😂 i want to see what my clinic advises on monday about testing and supplements as in DHEA as it take 3 months to do anything so could have a blow out this weekend and get straight back on it... God knows 🤷‍♀️😂 why is this just such a guessing game xx

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Nuszkahope in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Have fun, relax and don’t feel guilty about it! IVF is such a tough journey, certainly the hardest thing I have ever done x

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Nuszkahope

Yes i 2nd that!! Thank you for your reassurance ❤️ xx

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Krystal_43

I’m currently making myself a cheeky afternoon negroni after a third failed cycle ten days ago!!! I always give myself a couple of weeks off after a failed cycle 😀 Try not to feel guilty. X

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Krystal_43

Oh wow enjoy!! When are you starting your next cycle? Yeah i hate the guilt you gwt mum guilt before even becoming a mum xx

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Krystal_43 in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Not sure, my WTF appointment is next week and my body feels tired so I may wait a few months or so before starting again. After the last round, my cycles were messed up so if that happens again, I want to wait until they are back to normal.

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Krystal_43

Ahh ok yes its nice to have the time between but the month always oass by so quick and before i knew it its been a yr so was just going to try do them back to back now but will see what the clinic advises enjoy your cocktail and you have given me some inspo for the choice of drink this weekend i now fancy a cocktail xx

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Krystal_43 in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

With my other cycles I felt ready to go right away mentally but this time I’m just knackered! I’m also trying DHEA supplementation which I think is best 8-12 weeks before stims & also think seeing friends in beer gardens next week will be good for my soul!

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Krystal_43

Yess 100% im going to try DHEA this time too so maybe best for me to wait 8 weeks too xxxl

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MissSaoPaulo

HAVE A DRINK!!

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to MissSaoPaulo

Well when you put it like that 😂 thanks and will do xx

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MissSaoPaulo in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

I've just started bleeding today after a missed miscarriage, I'll definitely be pouring myself a JD+coke tonight. We deserve to let off a little stream before going back into it xxx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to MissSaoPaulo

Oh my goodness im so so sorry!!! Yes you 100% deserve that drink xx

in reply to MissSaoPaulo

I used to do the same whilst mc bottle of wine down my neck numb the emotional pain.

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MissSaoPaulo in reply to

I thought I was alright and I'd come to terms with it, but today I can't stop crying, although I'm relieved it seems to be resolving itself. Definitely getting a drink as soon as I've finished work!!

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to MissSaoPaulo

Sending massive hugs 🤍 xxx

in reply to MissSaoPaulo

Bless you its so hard I still cry about it occasionally when I think back to how I felt at the time so sad, angry and at a loss. Have your drink 🍷let it out.

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Alwaysfullofhope

Im having a gin 🍾🥂

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Cinderella5

I would have it!! There are too many times that we have to restrict our lives and whilst you're having some down time then treat yourself! I was so strict at the start and it made absolutely no difference to my cycle and on the ones where I wasnt so strict, they actually went better. Good luck.xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Cinderella5

Ahh thanks im having drink now and will have a couple at the weekend i feel tonnes better already 🤷‍♀️!! Really lovely to see things have worked out for you... 🤍 Xx

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Cinderella5 in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Enjoy, you flipping deserve it!! Thank you.🥰xx

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Pinksunshine39

My cycle got cancelled last week and we are going straight into the next one at the end of the month but it was my birthday so I thought sod this I’m having wine. It was wonderful, I enjoyed every drop!! 🍷🍷xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Pinksunshine39

Happy birthday!! Yes because i haven't had a drink in nearly 4 month it has really gone to my head but i defiantly feel alot less stress!! When does your next round start?xx

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Pinksunshine39 in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

As soon as I get my next period. I’m still having a withdrawal bleed now. The hospital is predicting around the 25th of this month for starting meds again but I think it’ll be a little longer. Enjoy, relax, it’s nice it feel a little like yourself again in all the madness xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Pinksunshine39

Good luck thats when my period starts too so we could possible be going through the next one together xxx

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Pinksunshine39 in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Keep me posted 🤞🤞xx

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Ariel24

I would say have a relax and a drink 👍🏼

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Ariel24

Yes ive had a drink and i throughly enjoyed it ❤️ xx

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Ariel24 in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Good!

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L400ynd

Have a drink lovely and don’t feel guilty about it. ❤️❤️ Xxx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to L400ynd

Had a g&t and was lovely felt tipsy of the smell as haven't had a drink for 4 month 😂but definitely took the edge off... Hope your doing ok xxx

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L400ynd in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Good. You deserve it my lovely. The alcohol was the only thing I wasn’t fussed about. I couldn’t wait to get a bath and a non decaf tea! 😂😂. Ordering sushi at the weekend as well. Anything to get me thru. Xxx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to L400ynd

Ohh really i wish that was me but when not going through this i am quite a big drinker so it has been a real challenge not drinking since NYE well you enjoy your bath and your sushi because you definitely deserve all your treats xxx

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L400ynd in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Well done on doing it. That defo shows your commitment. I couldn’t ever deal with the hangovers so I just stopped and I got so used to driving everywhere it became so convenient to not drink. Now I only have a drink on my late daddy’s birthday or anniversary (which was during this 2ww so I didn’t have one. My mum had one for me. 😂) a wee Morgan’s spiced rum and coke was his favourite. Xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to L400ynd

Ahh thats lovely that you do things like that keeps his memory alive!! My dads birthday is the day before mine my dad died when i was 2yrs old so not sure what his favorite drink was but im always very merry on his birthday as i know he loved a drink 😂... Yes ill do anything to try make this work but im glad i listened to all you ladies and had a drink and im not making myself feel guilty for it either xxx

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Maybebaby008

My consultant actually said (without me asking) that a glass of wine here & there isn’t going to change the outcome. If it makes you relax and take your mind off it for a bit then I’d say treat yourself. I’m also hoping to do a FET end of April/beginning May x

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Maybebaby008

Yes well i know alot of people get pregnant after a big night out on the booze... The more im on the journey the more im realising youve already been dealt your lifes eggs and not eating white bread for 3months etc has no affect (getting cocky now ive had a drink) ill back track tomorrow 😂😂 yes i love a drink its my escape but im just going to be mindful with everything and just not to over indulge xx

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Alwaysfullofhope in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Ahh me too for the cycle so keep us posted ❤️ xx

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Maybebaby008 in reply to Alwaysfullofhope

Exactly! We make ourselves feel guilty for everything but we are only human. I love a glass of red! I’ve lived like a saint & been miserable as sin and it hasn’t worked. So maybe the odd glass here & there and a wind down is actually a good thing. Who knows!! Like you say, we’ve been dealt our hand!! Will keep you posted for sure x

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