UPDATED #3: Has anyone had success transferring a blastocyst that was expanded but upon transfer had collapsed?

[Fingerscrossed38]

I'm pretty sure it's bad news as there isn't a single niggle or cramp since my transfer on Monday but the biggest question mark I have is can a collapsed blastocyst even implant? What I'm reading isn't filling me with much hope. I'm reading its as though the blastocyst is "breathing" as it contracts but because it can take hours to expand again they don't wait to see, they just transfer it. Is it anything the embriologist did when warming the blastocyst? My other two FET my blastocyst was hatching upon transfer and I got bro but this time I had a new embriologist...

UPDATE: I know how frustrating it is to find a link to an answer you're trying to find and they leave you hanging without an update.

I tested out the trigger shot from the day of transfer like always. I got a "not pregnant" on the digital clear blue test the morning of 4dp6dt. I got a "pregnant 1-2 weeks" on the digital clear blue test at 10:30pm that same evening. I got another "pregnant 1-2 weeks" the following morning 5dp6dt.

I went straight in for my hcg blood test that morning (5dp6dt) and it was confirmed that I'm pregnant at HCG 17. Then today (Monday 7dp6dt) my bloods showed my hcg was 62.4! So fingers crossed it keeps doubling!

I want to add that I didn't have a single cramp! Normally in my other pregnancies I get AF cramps or stronger. Nothing this time even now! So it's really hard to believe it might actually be viable!

I'll try and update again soon x

UPDATE #2

Well this pregnancy seems to be progressing as it should. I'm currently 7+3 had my first scan two days ago and there was a heartbeat 💓 still no cramping. Slightly nauseas and tired but nothing else symptom wise. Trying to relax.

So if you do have a transfer of a collapsed blastocyst don't give up hope! Xx

UPDATE 3: still going strong. Currently 25+2 weeks and although this pregnancy is knackering with an 11 month old I wouldn't change it for the world.

Message of you have any questions xx

[Catlady12345]

Hey! I don’t have any direct experience of this except at my last transfer last week my embryologist said my blast had contracted again but it was just a normal part of the process and it would continue to expand again in the womb.

She really was lovely and said it was nothing to worry about so I’m trusting her advice and keeping my fingers crossed this little one sticks. I had a fully hatching top grade not work last time, so I think it’s just down to luck and numbers really xx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Catlady12345]

Ah thanks so much for replying.

So you must be getting your bfp any day now?! Have you had any cramping?

Best of luck with everything 🍀

[Catlady12345 in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

I’m due to test on Sunday! I can’t say I’m feeling any symptoms so overall not feeling too positive unfortunately 😞 xx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Catlady12345]

Ah this two week wait is torture but well done you for not cracking before now with the testing! I really hope you get your bfp on Sunday! Xx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Catlady12345]

How did you go yesterday?

[Millbanks]

Hi lovely, I had a collapsed blasto transferred on my first time. The embryologist said it was completely fine, and would re-expand inside the uterus. We didn't get a positive on that transfer, but since doing our ERA it's highly likely that it was timing rather than the blasto. Best of luck to you xx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Millbanks]

Oh did your ERA come back with needing extra progesterone for longer/shorter time?

My first fet ended in a chemical and we discovered after we did an ERA that we needed extra 12 hours progesterone. We adjusted things and had my daughter the very next fet. I think I just assumed this time we had everything organised and I didn't expect to be told about the collapsed blastocyst...

I hope things work out for you!

[Millbanks in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

Yes I’m pre-receptive so need an extra 24 hours progesterone 👍🏼

That’s wonderful news about your daughter 🧡

I really don’t think a collapsed blasto should be a problem. Everything crossed for you xx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Millbanks]

Oooh it's great you did the era and got that result! I think everyone should do it if they can before they transfer any precious embryos. Best of luck with everything 🍀

[Millbanks in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

I totally agree! We did 3 FETs before even really looking at it. To be out by 24 hours seems amazing and such a waste of 5 embryos. I know it’s not different for everyone but I wasn’t even aware that it could be a thing! Xx

[Gemcope84]

Hi, I transferred Monday too! I just wondering when are you planning on testing? Hope you are feeling ok, this is such a stressful time! Xx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Gemcope84]

Hi, I really hope you have a better outcome than me!

I've been testing every day since transfer to test out my trigger shot! With my daughter I tested negative on 4dp5dt in the morning and by 10:30pm that same day I got my bfp so technically that would be equivalent to tomorrow night! However with my daughter I also had full on cramping from a few hours after the transfer onwards and with every other pregnancy too and this time nothing! So I know deep down it hasn't worked.

Have you felt any niggles? Was your blastocyst hatching?

[Gemcope84 in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

Yeah it was, It was a 5ba I have had really bad cramping off and on but I am unbelievably constipated!! Sorry tmi but it is truly awful so I think the majority of symptoms might be from that? I’m progesterone sups 400mg am and pm I’m sure it’s doing it! I was planning on not testing until a week tomorrow that’s earlier than the clinic suggest. This is my first time so it’s all new to me so any guidence. I hope you get a positive result if your testing tomorrow xxxx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Gemcope84]

Well I think it's really really *positive* news for you that you've got cramping. I doubt it's the Cyclogest. Keep me posted!

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Gemcope84]

Hi, I've been AWOL from this forum. Did you get good news?

[Lkc2015]

I had a hatching embryo that had collapsed transferred on 15/2 currently testing positive OTD tomorrow so I’m hoping it has worked for me. 🤞Embryologist told me it was normal after freezing. Hope you get good news too

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Lkc2015]

Hi!Firstly congratulations on your bfp! How exciting for you! Can I ask if you felt any cramping at all since transfer? I think it is very positive because it was hatching before collapse so was further along.

Please do keep me updated on tomorrow's big official test. And best of all with your pregnancy! 😀

[Lkc2015 in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

I have mild cramping on and off but not sure if it’s the pessaries as I felt cramps last time with my fresh cycle which was BFN. The symptom watching is so hard I drive my husband mad. Good luck with the rest of your 2ww sounds like you’ve got a good chance!

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Lkc2015]

How is it going? Still positive? Hcg doubling?

[Lkc2015 in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

My clinic don’t do serum HCG but my OTD test was positive (and the ones I’ve done since 🤦‍♀️) have to wait until 18/3 for viability scan. When is your OTD?

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Lkc2015]

Gosh that's frustrating but you've got symptoms and a positive test so hopefully the 18th will get here fast! Do keep me posted.

I have had the hcg bloods tested twice since Saturday and us more than doubling. Ill repeat on thursday and Saturday too. Xx

[Lkc2015 in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

Yeah it’s a bit of a struggle waiting for the scan definitely worse than two week wait. Hopefully I will relax after scan. Lines are strong and not fading so I’m trying to stay positive. At least it’s after Mother’s Day so hopefully no bad news before then as I normally struggle then anyway. X

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Lkc2015]

Aww I've got my fingers crossed this is your first mother's day! It will be believe it xx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Lkc2015]

Been meaning to check in...Did you get good news?

[Cinderella5]

Hey, lovely to see you back.....you dont mess about!!🤗 Hope your little one is doing well. Hopefully the blastocyst re-expanded after transfer. They must have been fairly confident or wouldnt have transferred it. Best of luck hun.xxx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Cinderella5]

Heya, yes well we figured we might as well get on with it since we are aged 😝 dd1 is gorgeous and such a good baby and I think that's partly why we feel confident going again so soon.

I'm not so sure. I think they would have just transferred it and hoped for the best. They can't really wait hours for it to hopefully expand. Deep down I know though.

Not long for you and your babies!! How are you feeling? Do you think you'll try naturally or c? Nursery all prepared? How exciting xx

[Cinderella5 in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

Ha ha ha very true, no point in waiting if you feel ready and when you've had a good one it must be an easier decision too!🥰 Well I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, you never know what's going on in there!No nursery prepared! We only just started buying things a few wks ago, was too scared before....still am a bit wary! I want to try for a natural but these 2 little ones seem to have other ideas, they are lying transverse and have been for weeks so if they dont move I have no choice but a section. Not pinning my hopes on anything, what will be will be!!xxx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Cinderella5]

The absolute best attitude to have. As long as you and babies are safe it doesn't matter how they arrive.

You keep safe and try your best to rest up! Keep in touch xx

[Cinderella5 in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

Absolutely, cant change it and I just want them here safe!! You take care too.xxx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Cinderella5]

It's positive! But as you know it's very early days!

Hey I'll ask this question on the forum too but do you know how they calculate due date with a day 6 blastocyst? All the calculators only five day 5 as option or day 3...

[Cinderella5 in reply to Fingerscrossed38]

Yippeeee 👏🏻🤗🥰. As you say early but a good start!! As far as I'm aware a 6 day blast is counted as the same as a 5 day blast but I'm no expert lovely! Good luck.🙏🏻🤞🏻xxx

[Jess1981]

Just seen your update congratulations lovely news. Wishing you the best your pregnancy Xx

[Fingerscrossed38 in reply to Jess1981]

Thanks! And I see congratulations in order for you too!