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Hi guys,

Hope everyone is well.

So we had our 2nd egg collection on Monday the 21st, 9 retrieved, 9 mature, 3 fertilised and today we had a call to say we have 2 poor quality (1 at 4 cells and 1 at 5 cells) and a good quality 1 (8 cells) my blood test result has come back to say that my progesterone is slightly high, so if our only embryo is good quality they will freeze, if it is a poorer quality they will transfer on Saturday, as it won't survive the freezing. We are now in limbo, hoping that it can be frozen, but if not, if it is transferred will my progesterone levels not reduce the chances of implantation anyway 🤷🏻‍♀️

I just feel so numb and defeated, our first round ended with only 1 poor blastocyst and a BFN (only a 5-10% of implantation) I'm really struggling to find the energy to keep going, both with this journey and work. I honestly don't know how you guys keep going, you're all so strong. Part of me thinks if this is another poor blastocyst with a 5-10% chance of implantation, what is the point of going through all that again for the same negative outcome? Is it even worth having a transfer with such low success rates?

Has anyone else got any advice? I'd be so grateful. Thanks everyone xx

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BroodySingle

Hi Rollypops,

Unfortunately I’ve never made it far enough to have any embabies to provide any sort of advice but wanted to give your post a little bump.

Wishing you lots of luck xx

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Rollypops in reply to BroodySingle

Hi BroodySingle thanks for your kind words. That must be really hard too! Have you been given any guidance to move forward? Xx

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BroodySingle in reply to Rollypops

I’m going through my second round now, but again it’s not looking great.

Needed Provera to start my cycle, but now AF just won’t end so it’s likely they’ll cancel my cycle either after tomorrow’s scan or Monday’s as I reckon my lining must be super thin by now.

It’s the waiting and not knowing that’s the worst.

This journey is tough, but we’re tougher!

xx

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Rollypops in reply to BroodySingle

It is so unbelievably cruel.

I hope AF stops for you so you can continue! Must be so hard having your cycle cancelled. Was it a similar experience on your first? I wouldn't wish this journey on anyone.

Xx

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BroodySingle in reply to Rollypops

Thank you! There’s a small but unlikely chance.

But this journey is all about miracles so you never know!

My first cycle was almost cancelled due to poor response as my ovaries were massively over suppressed with BCP.

I have almost undetectable AMH and I eventually had one follicle but they didn’t monitor me closely as they assumed I wouldn’t get any follicles. I ended up ovulating before egg collection and was converted to IUI (that didn’t work).

xx

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Rollypops in reply to BroodySingle

Oh that must have been heart breaking. Especially when we put so much hope into it. Sometimes I feel all we have is hope.

Fingers crossed for you this time! Everyone deserves the happiness of a baby xx

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jengi

Hello, if they call you and say it’s a poor blastocyst still & not fit for freezing, would you really be able to ditch it and not give it a chance? I’d just go for transfer and hope! I know how bitterly disappointing it is, especially so in your case to start with 9 mature eggs. I only ever managed one transfer with a low grade 3 day blastocysts. So my heart bleeds for you. It’s crushing. Did they do IVF or ICSI? I’m really hoping it makes it through and becomes a super quality blastocyst so you can transfer at a later date. Everything crossed for you! Xx

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Rollypops in reply to jengi

Hello jengi thanks for your reply.

I know what you mean, we're just so fearful of going through that failure again, it's awful isn't it and puts so much pressure on your marriage. We did ICSI both last time and this time too.

How are you getting on with everything?

X

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jengi in reply to Rollypops

It not working is so truly heartbreaking so i understand your reservation but we always have to hang onto a wee bit of hope. I had such bad luck with my own eggs. Our first attempt we retrived only one egg which failed to fertilise. Round two, three and four were cancelled. Fifth round we got 3 eggs, only 1 mature which failed to fertilise. One of the immature ones matured over night and fertilised giving us a poor grade 3 day blastocyst which we transferred but it didn't work. We moved to donor. Our first donor transfer failed but we fell pregnant with our second. I'll be 12 weeks pregnant on Saturday. Its been a long and painful journey to get here and i feel so grateful but utterly terrified all at the same time. Its still early days and i have no idea what the outcome will be but hope everyday we'll get to the final hurdle. Emotionally this whole crazy roller coaster has broken me but i guess when you want something so bad you'll do everything. I spend alot of time looking after my mental health with acupuncture, mindfulness, yoga and counselling. Make sure you look after yourself, and each other. Wishing you the very best of luck Xx

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Rollypops in reply to jengi

It's just so disheartening going through all that for no good embryos to give a chance isn't it. I think because we got 9 mature eggs, better than last time. We were so hopeful, but it just seems as soon as you have some good news, it all comes crashing down again. I think that's why I've been a bit negative about it all this time.

Omg congratulations so much! That's so inspiring that you are finally pregnant, you must be over the moon! I wish you a happy 9 months, well another 6! Hope it has been a nice pregnancy so far!

I think we can neglect our mental health at times, wise words! Let us know how you are! Xxx

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jengi in reply to Rollypops

It is disheartening and it feels so unfair sometimes. It got to a stage with me I dreaded walking through the clinic doors as I hadn’t a clue what news was coming our way. It hard not to be negative when all we get is disappointing news. Don’t be too harsh on yourself. Take good care of yourself & each other. Thanks for your well wishes, I’m doing good. I’m slowly accepting that I’ve no control over the outcome of this pregnancy but learning to take one day at a time & be grateful for each milestone we reach. It’s not easy though! Xx

Hi Rollypops

Hope your ok . I can relate to your cycle , I had 6 mature eggs , 1 only made it to a blastocyst as it had to be frozen .

My consultant on the day of my Ec said that my endometrial lining was too thin so could not do a fresh transfer .

I have to

Now wait for my period and I am going to also have the progesterone tablets ! It’s a rollercoaster we are all different aren’t we . Ups and downs .

I feel like now I am just waiting .. I guess though if it was transferred and my lining was too thin then this would not be good for implantation.

Have they told

You the grade of the one at 8 cells or do they tell you that tomorrow. Wishing you so much luck 🙏🙏🙏🙏

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Rollypops in reply to Greekprincess1975

Hey Greekprincess1975 nice to hear from you, sorry to hear you transfer couldn't go ahead. I spose it is for the best and gives your embabie the best chance of implantation, but I can get how upsetting it must be to wait for the right time. Fingers crossed your last surviving 1 is the 1! 🤞🏼 this is what we are wishing for!

No they didn't tell us the grading yesterday, I'm hoping that they call tomorrow and say it is good enough to freeze. Even though I want it safe in my tummy, I'm worried what my high progesterone levels could do to it. Fingers crossed for us both! 😁 xx

Hi Rollypops thanks for replying

Well I pray that your little embryo is the one too it’s torture waiting . They rang me last Saturday at 3.30pm ! I was staring at the phone all day for them to deliver the news .🙏

Thinking of you and I hope it all works out for you Hun 💕keep us informed xxxx

Is this your 1st ivf ? It is for me and the only one as we have to pay so can’t afford another cycle x☹️

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Rollypops

Thanks so much Greekprincess1975 I hope yours is too! No, this is our 2nd full cycle. We had our first round on the NHS, that failed, 1 poor blastocyst and a BFN. So we're now paying private. We used a multi cycle scheme through access fertility, you can get up to 2 cycles, but your meds and if you need ICSI is extra.

I struggle with knowing when to give up, there's gota be a point where you can't mentally, physically and financially do it anymore. It's horrid! Xxx

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Greekprincess1975 in reply to Rollypops

I know I agree I never predicted it would be this hard mentally and physically.

How did u find the nhs ? What was the grade blastocyst that they put in you ?

How were they were they thorough? I went to nhs before paying they were not interested as I have children already , fobbed me off with folic acid , still waiting to go back! Waste of time ...

I have been reading last night about linings in the uterus as mine is thin , hopefully it will become thicker with the tablets they will give me when I go back to clinic . I am drinking pomegranate juice 🥤, heard from few ladies that helps .

Thinking of u today hun 🙏

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Rollypops

Hello,

Thank you for your well wishes, it's really kind of you, so they transferred 1 today, but it hadn't quite got to blastocyst stage, so they couldn't grade it and didn't know whether it would survive freezing, it was at a "morula" stage. There's another that's still fighting, but it's not looking to good, they are going to monitor it and ring tomorrow to let us know.

The blastocyst that was transferred in June was a 1AB. Our clinic grade them 1-5, but 5 is the best. So don't think it ever really stood a chance tbh 😔 poor thing. We are still at the same clinic now, just private. There doesn't seem to be much difference between NHS and private, we were treated the same, they are fabulous, just wish the communication was a bit better, but I honestly cannot fault them.

No I think the NHS has a criteria doesn't it, although I'm grateful we got 1 try, some get 3, some none! Doesn't seem fairly done really.

You been updated on transfer? X

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Greekprincess1975 in reply to Rollypops

Ah hi Rollypops been thinking about you !!!

Well you got 1 that’s good ! So they transferred it today then ?????

Like you say at least you got 1 try on the nhs !! 🙏

My last 2 didn’t make it to day 6 unfortunately the embryologist said they started degenerating...☹️

Update us tomorrow let’s hope you may get another embryo 🙏🙏🙏🙏

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Rollypops in reply to Greekprincess1975

Hey! Yes they transferred 1 yesterday, we got a call today to say that the other 2 embryos didn't make it and have stopped growing. Everything is riding on this 1. It's so hard to stay hopeful when it didn't even get to a blastocyst. Kinda preparing for another full failed cycle again so it's not a massive bomb shell on test day.

How you managing with it all? Xx

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Greekprincess1975 in reply to Rollypops

Hello !!!

All you can do is stay positive and pray your little embryo stays strong !

It’s a roller coaster isn’t it !!!

I came on my period today , apparantly they want me to have 1 more period before the FET . I will know more wen I speak to the nurse in a week now ..

it’s constantly on my mind as I am sure you will agree !!!!!

How are u feeling now then ? Do u have to wait 2 weeks to take a pregnancy test ? Lots of love ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏

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Rollypops

Hello Greekprincess1975 apologies foe the delay. We're just in Edinburgh, trying to de-stress during the 2ww.

How are you doin? So you need to wait for another period and then you can get started again?

Feeling ok thanks, just going out my mind a bit lol yess 2 weeks of waiting 😂 not sure I'll last tbh xxx

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Greekprincess1975 in reply to Rollypops

Ah lovely to hear from you .

I love Edinburgh first time there last year with my husband and I we loved it !

Hope

Your ok ! I bet your counting the days aren’t you ???🙈how are u feeling ?

I bled last week , I now have to

Wait for my bleed towards end of October then the transfer . Speaking to the nurse next Tuesday so I will

Know more then . I don’t know when they will scan me or when I will take the tablets for my lining ! ( now I am worrying thinking what if my lining won’t be right )😳xxx

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Rollypops in reply to Greekprincess1975

Heyyyy, Edinburgh was really good thanks. We are back home now, but also back to what is reality. I already know it hasn't worked, did a test today at 6dp5dt, negative. Know it's early, but also know what a failed transfer feels like. So think round 2 is a failure too.

Bet you feel so much better now you have a plan of action. Hopefully your body does what you need it to do! You excited? Xxx

Oh no Rollypops ....😢are u sure ? What are U feeling When Undaid you know what a failed transfer feelS like ? I am upset for you hun . Do u have to go

Back to your clinic for a test or not ?

I am ok thank you . Taking each day by day Hun . Xxx❤️

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Rollypops

Ohh yes I'm sure, I'm so bloated and just need to let period come now. Stopped those awful pessaries, so should be on it's way soon.

No we don't have to go to the clinic thankfully, just need to let them know the outcome.

Good luck with it all hun 💗 xxx

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