So confirmed first IVF transfer failed yesterday. Feeling really deflated, was so positive it looked good and was good grade embryo etc, just didnt happen.
We have 3 embryos frozen to use but genuinely not sure if I can cope with emotional rollercoaster involved! Have spoken to the clinic and requested to have a double FET asap. Doctors are reluctant as I'm 31 and had 2 ectopic pregnancies previously, both tubes were removed but apparently still is risk embryo can implant in small remaining tube (if any) which would just be our luck!! Also seems to be a worry about 2 embryos becoming quintuplets which seems a bit far fetched to me! Has anyone experienced similar? Or had double FET and experienced these issues?
Trying to gear myself up for round 2 but struggling atm 😢
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So sorry to hear it wasn’t successful I understand your concerns and stress as I had the exact same with my first transfer , my FET following that worked by It wasn’t to be and I had a loss within a few days then I did a new round and fresh failed again then did FET which resulted in my twins so it can happen you just gotta try stay posative ♥️
My clinic has no issue with putting two back in I did two everytime , and they never once mentioned quads or anything like that yes it’s a possibility but both eggs would have to split again in order to cause another baby in the equation for me both embroyos took that was it.
I think I just feel so drained from the process, to feel so confident then find out no go. Since recovering from my 2nd fallopian tube removal and coming to terms with being infertile it has taken me a long time to be ok, worried I'm gonna go back to that place again. That's why weve decided to just have one more attempt, we'll just throw everything at it and hope for the best! Haha
I completely get it I do think though the clinic shouldn’t be projecting their worries in to you unless it’s protocol not to put two back in then it’s your choice if it isn’t so I would.
I’m sorry you feel down I know it’s hard but try and keep thinking posative ♥️
My clinic (in Spain) also has tried to put me off transferring 2 embryos. From what I understand clinics get measured on their multiple birth rates.
They have said to me that each embryo transferred results in a 33% chance of pregnancy so a single transfer is 33% and if you do 3 single transfers it is 99%....if you transfer 2 together there is a 66% chance of pregnancy, which is appealing, but what they say is there is cumulatively no difference so it’s safer to do 3 single transfers.
What they have said to me is that if I do have two or more implant I will be deemed a high risk pregnancy from the word go and very often women end up on bed rest with multiple pregnancies. They said that birthing can be extremely difficult and risky if I want a natural labour rather than c-section.
I’ve done a bit of research and I understand the chance of both implanting are around 30%. The chance of one dividing to give triplets is 5% of the 30% (so like less than 2% chance overall) and quintuplets an even less chance than that. The chances are low, but still possible and it has happened.
Thank you, gives me something to think about. Good to know how low the figures are though, I suppose they have to advise even though very low percentages, still a risk! X
No worries, yeah the risk is there. 30% chance of twins is pretty high.
If it’s any help, I’m going for 2 in my next FET at the end of Aug.
I’ve had miscarriage from a fresh transfer and the last FET failed to implant.
I asked friends and family for advice on my last FET and the general consensus was ‘do one this round and if it doesn’t work, 2 next round’. Seemed logical, so I’m sticking with it. X
This was our original idea but we have a set amount of money available so for us can only really afford one more go, will just have to hope for the best 🤞 good luck with your FET .. maybe we'll both end up with twins 😂 x
Same to you, best of luck! Twins terrifies me....can you imagine? Double trouble! We’d definitely be tired and grey! Saying that, I’m sure we would both take 2, 3 or 4 over none on any day.xx
Haha this is true. I work in a nursery baby room so comes with the job lol but would definitely be all hands on deck scenario, but as you say I'd take 2 or 3 etc over none for sure xx
Hi Navy88 so sorry to hear this time hasn’t worked out. Take a few days for yourself and be extra kind to you 🤗💞
As for your next cycle our 2nd go (FET) I had a double transfer at 37 against the advice of doctors which sounds like the same advice as you about multiples. I did my own research and decided it was a risk I was willing to take. It ended in chemical pregnancy at nearly 6 weeks but After 4 years of failed attempts it’s the only BFP we’ve ever had which might have been to do with double transfer.
I am hopefully restarting my next FET in the next month or so but unfortunately our clinic in Glasgow can only do single transfers due to COVID this time or else I would be doing double again xx
Good luck with the next step of your journey and I’m sorry again that you’ve had bad news this cycle. Take care xx
So sorry about your news 😔 it's just not fair at all. I was in the same position as you, did a single with my fresh transfer and a double with my FET. Unfortunately neither embryos implanted, so much for the risk of twins! I would definitely push for what you want, you are the one paying after all!! Best of luck hun xx
Im sorry to hear about your negative result. Its really crappy but give yourself some time, you somehow manage to muster up the energy to try again although I would give yourself maybe a little time to grieve and have a little treat or a blow out. Ive always transferred two embryos but older than you and my clinic is abroad. There is always a risk of twins but Id take that over none anyday so it depends on if you think you can manage twins or possibly more. Its highly unusual to get quads however it can happen, there was a lovely lady on here had quads from putting 2 back, they both split and she had a set of identical boy/girls twins....so 4 babies! This was a hugely risky pregnancy and the babies were extremely premature. Im not saying it to scare you, just that it can happen! Like I say I have always had 2 put back when I could!! Hugs for now.xx
Our clinic in the UK are dead against it unless you are older or dont have very good quality blastocyst - I was both of these. I felt very lectured by the embryologist but eventually asked if it was his decision or mine and he said mine....so I asked for two and got it but they werent keen.xx
Thank you, yes I'm thinking they're not going to like it but I think this is our last go and it's our money, we can take advice but ultimately should be our decision 🤷♀️ will see what I get back from the clinic 🤞 x
Hi I had 2 ectopics and also lost both tubes. Last year on my second ectopic during surgery I asked them to do a “stumpectomy” so basically ensuring that no stumps were left as they often leave a short section of tube when they remove the ectopic which could risk another ectopic in what’s left behind. I had a double embryo transfer 2 weeks ago (my 4th transfer) and am currently pregnant x
Wow congratulations, do you know if its twins or more?
I'm sure one side (they showed me a picture straight after coming round from surgery) the last ectopic was actually growing at the very edge of the tube so I'm pretty sure there was no gap left behind there. My other side was a few years ago it ruptured at almost 9 weeks and was quite bad (had to be in surgery for quite a while) but I have succeeded in getting pregnant naturally in 2014 and carrying my daughter with no further issues from that side so I'm pretty sure both sides haven't got stumps but still a risk isnt it? I wish I'd have known about asking for that, both times i was useless just went into shock and didnt know what to ask for or say. Frustrating now to look back x
So sorry to hear this hun I too have just had a failed cycle starting second soon but it’s soooo hard as like you not sure I could handle to emotional rollercoaster again but you have to keep moving hope everything works out for you fingers crossed for us both 🤞x
Thank you, yeah I've just found the whole process so stressful I was so confident it was going to work for some stupid reason, I always get too ahead of myself! Haha
Don’t be too hard on yourself hun I was exactly the same we had a good grade embryo my linning was good n everything we really thought it worked n then we had a chemical about 3 weeks ago but you’ve gotta try n stay positive try n keep your head up hun x😘
Thanks! Not sure if it’s twins at the moment - hcg was 159 7dp5dt so are in the twins range but I haven’t tested since so not sure
They did offer to try and save my last tube but to be honest I was tired of feeling like i was playing Russian roulette with my life every time I tried to conceive - the second ectopic was from an IVF transfer - ironically a double transfer so I can see why your clinic are a bit reluctant - so I wanted the tube gone to give us a better chance with IVF.
I’m glad I asked for the stump removal as they had left quite a long section from my first ectopic the previous year and it just seems I have the worst luck when it comes to all things conception related (5 miscarriages as well)
The surgeon did say I’m still at risk of a c section ectopic though (had DD in 2016) - definitely giving up if that happens
They did say they are worried if I have a double transfer one could transfer and the other be ectopic which would obvs be horrendous, at my last ectopic when the tube ruptured they had sent me home day before as decided there was also a sac in the uterus so hoped the area in my tube was nothing to worry...turned out not so good, they removed the ruptured tube without clearing the womb as thought there was still baby in there which could survive, a week after surgery though I miscarried.
Your story sounds similar to mine, I have also had early miscarriages 3 times, I personally believe this is because I cant carry boys, every time has always been between 5 and 6 weeks gestation I have miscarried. Whilst carrying my daughter I had extremely heavy bleed for 6 weeks turns out was pregnant with twins but miscarried the one, my daughter is a very strong cookie and held on in there!! X
A c section ectopic is where the embryo implants in the scar tissue and is similar to an ectopic in the tubes in that’s it’s not viable and too dangerous to continue the pregnancy. It’s rare but still possible according to my surgeon 😬
I wondered too if I could carry boys with all the miscarriages I’ve had but pretty sure my issues are to do with egg quality as we PGS tested a couple of blastocysts last year and both came back with chromosome issues
Wow didnt know that was a thing! Why cant the little monkeys stay where they're put?! 🙄
Sounds weird but my mum has had similar issues when she was younger, and had 4 early miscarriages around same gestation, she had 3 girls. I know theres a chance it isnt this reason, just my personal belief. Shame my mother in law only likes boys 🤣
Hi, so sorry to hear it dint work put this time, I know its not a place anyone want to be. Be courageous and keep pushing for what you want and by Gods grace you will get that good news. Myself I had two embryos transfered here in the uk, initially they refused, giving me so many possibilities of the risk involved. But I already made up my mind and I stocked to what we wanted just like others has mentioned here as its our decision after all. So had my Beta test today and awaiting result. Which you all the best in your next round. xx
I’m so sorry you are going through this. I live in the US so things may be different but I went through two rounds of IVF, both resulting in two embryos. Because I was producing so few, they recommended I transfer both embryos both times. My first round failed & neither of them took. My second round worked & I am currently 16 weeks pregnant with one baby! I think it was different for me because I didn’t have enough embryos to freeze, but my doctors seemed quite confident that the risk of multiples was relatively low. I wish the best of luck to you & hope you get your beautiful baby someday ❤️
This is interesting. I’m just starting my first IVF Cycle and if I am lucky enough to get to the point of transfer, I definitely want to go with 2 embryos. I am 35 with low AMH levels so if I get to this point then i will be really lucky, the quality of them is likely to be low and I really can only afford this one cycle so it’s like all or nothing with me.
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