Empty follicle

[Purplewitch18]

Thanks for all the well wishes guys, but the follicle was empty, they flushed it several times but nothing, and i felt everything, literally, it really hurt 😓

[Telford1]

Wow that sounds really sore and pretty traumatic. So sorry Purplewitch. X

[Sayusayme]

Oh gosh

It's so painful to hear all this dear

I know I can understand your feeling..

For a day or two you stay angry n sad but try to come out soon within a week and try again next to next cycle...don't give up..

Sending you my hugs and care

[Cinderella5]

Im so so sorry purplewitch! So devastating to go through all of this for nothing, hugs.xx

[crisps88]

So sorry for your sad news and painful experience. Thinking of you xx

[Italy300618]

I'm so so sorry to hear this, you poor thing, sending you big hugs at such a devastating time xx

[ttcemmie]

Oh no! This is devastating to hear. Take the time to grieve. This is sh*t; so sorry to hear this.

[Purplewitch18]

Thanks everyone, im just worried if we go again ill get another empty one. My amh is only 2.8, so low but im assuming it means i have some eggs left. I just dont know what to do, any advice of you guys would be great xx

[emmab178]

So sorry to hear this. Big hugs x

[Purplewitch18]

So some good news, we just found out that the clinic over charged us by mistake! We got charged for a full ivf cycle and not a natural cycle, so we have just had a big fat refund, and they are working us out a deal for another 2 rounds if we decide to go again, so we would only pay the difference including this round as the first one. Just need to know what is the right thing as worried about all follicles being empty x

[Italy300618 in reply to Purplewitch18]

I'm glad that that is the case, it takes another stress away for you for having another go, hope you are ok xx

[Purplewitch18 in reply to Italy300618]

Im ok, but its just another thing against me. I just read a case study saying endo can cause empty follicles. Im thinking of just going on the pill for a bit now, one to surpress it for ivf, 2 it might make me feel a bit better for a while. Got some serious thinking to do, i never imagined it would be empty xx

[Italy300618 in reply to Purplewitch18]

It's something you never even think of! They should give you a consultation now and more advice for you next go, it's so heartbreaking. I also felt all the pain in my ec both times it's awful xx

[Purplewitch18 in reply to Italy300618]

We have one next friday to discuss things. Omg egg collection is horrendous! I thought the nurse said i could eat something small before 6 so

I did, because of that i didnt have sedation and at one point shouted “oh F**k!!”. When they took the probe out and said there was no egg all i was bothered about was that it was over! Dr said i was hardcore lol. Dont really want to go through that again to be honest, dont know how all these women say they didnt feel it or anything! Xx

[Italy300618 in reply to Purplewitch18]

I felt it even with sedation, so you did extremely well!

I thought it might have been a one off on my 1st round but was exactly the same 2nd time. I want to ask for a general next time 😂

Glad you've got a follow up soon, see what they say xx

[Purplewitch18 in reply to Italy300618]

I dont think my clinic do general, but im

going to ask because sedation just doesnt work for me anyway. I had an emergency c section with nothing because the epidural didnt work. They kept topping up what they said was pain relief, well may have well as been water because it did nothing. I need to be asleep, im not going through that again! Xx

[Italy300618 in reply to Purplewitch18]

Definitely ask, that's all you can do! I guess some people just dont respond to sedation and we are those unlucky few 😔 xx

[KiboXX]

I’m so sorry purplewitch, wish it was a different outcome for you 😢

Really hope you recover quickly xx

[Purplewitch18 in reply to KiboXX]

Thanks kiboxx, ill be ok, im treating it as a learning curve, and if we decide to go again at least i know how bloody awful it is for next time! Xx

[KiboXX in reply to Purplewitch18]

They can sedate you next time though surely?! I’ve had four and I’m always out cold. Definitely shouldn’t have to suffer through it again, sounds bloody awful. Hope you’re ok x

[Purplewitch18 in reply to KiboXX]

Lay with my heat pad on, can still feel the needle even though its not there. They said they sedate so youre relaxed and sleepy and shouldnt remember anything but essencially you are still awake. Well f**k that, knock me out cold or put that needle away sister 😂xx

[Cinderella5 in reply to Purplewitch18]

I agree, if you do ago ahead again then ask for more sedation. I cant remember a thing from mine but apparently I was talking throughout.xx

[KiboXX in reply to Cinderella5]

Yeah I was the same Cinderella! I have had two under general and two under sedation and I was out for the count with both 😴🤤

[CLDxxx]

So sorry lovely. Xxx

[Purplewitch18]

Thanks for all the support all of you. I really need advice as didnt expect this. At worst i thought id ovulated already, or the egg wouldnt fertilise. I mean, is there even any point in going again? I honestly dont know anymore after this xx

[EmGLA]

I’m so so sorry. Sending you lots of hugs. Xxx

[RhinoCat]

Awh man 🥺😞 so sorry about your outcome. The whole egg collection thing is a nightmare from start to finish. Our clinic corrected me every time I

Said eggs they made me say follicles and I thought they were being overly cautious but then the nurse explained that they have no way of knowing about what’s in there until they get in. Might have been useful for them to offer this possibility to you. Maybe they can find a better egg stimulation for you ? Or get closer to the trigger ?

I’ve told myself to keep my expectations low because this is all science , they only know so much but they can get better each time. Your clinic sound really nice . All is not lost, you’ve got some money that you didn’t think you had and hopefully they’ve found out some useful things about your body . You poor pet 😕 try your best to focus on the positives , even though it’s the hardest thing. Hopefully you are at home wrapped up in a blanket .

Hugs and understanding ,

Rhinocat x💐

[Purplewitch18 in reply to RhinoCat]

Hi Rhinocat, thankyou for your kind words. The clinic did say there is no guarentee there is an egg in the follicle but also said it was unlikly to happen. Typical it happens to me! I had such an easy round aswel, and then this. Hurts like hell at the mo and the bleeding has started. Im not sure i can face egg collection again. The odds are against me, we will go over everything at our follow up next friday i guess and go from there xx

[RhinoCat in reply to Purplewitch18]

Bless your heart, you will feel differently next week. Hopefully your clinic will be open and honest with their suggestions . This whole ivf journey is so twisty! My clinic told me it was just bad luck (in my head it was absolute torturous ruin!).......that a huge polyp had grown in my uterus , they’re so matter of fact and at times it would be nice to switch to their mode of thought! I guess as it’s going on ‘in’ us we can’t. Take it easy the next few days and be kind to yourself. Don’t be rushing yourself to decide either! Set yourself down and breathe for a minute or two, you’ve been through a lot! Hope your physical pain heals quickly. Take all the pain relief you need! ( I’d be planning when I could have a gin in a day or two .... why not! I’d say you’d deserve it 😘)

Hugs,

Rhinocat x

[Purplewitch18 in reply to RhinoCat]

Thankyou, yes i will be having more than one! Its just with my age and endo which affects egg quality and low amh, im not sure its going to work for us. Ive been pregnant 3 times and have a daughter but seems my eggs have done a runner! Our limit is 3 goes and thats one down, i may change my mind if the clinic has something positive to say, i guess ill just take some time like you say and make a descision when im in less pain. My other half is proper stressed too so we will see what happens i guess.

How many have you been through? Im an endo warrier, but not sure about an ivf one 😬xx

[RhinoCat in reply to Purplewitch18]

I’m at the end of my first , have paid for 2 and my free nhs turn lined up. Mine hasn’t been wonderful but I guess every women has their own version of the journey. We ended up with one day 5 blastocyst and had to have frozen as I had a huge polyp living in my uterus. Ready for transfer on Monday so 🤷🏼‍♀️, ill give it a whirl. Hope next Friday goes well

And between then you get good sleep, fresh air and quality gin 🥂

[Purplewitch18 in reply to RhinoCat]

Lol i will, yours sounds positive, best of luck for your transfer monday 🤞🏼xx

[Afrohair]

I’m so sorry lovely although it hurts now that pain will very soon be forgotten with time you may decide on ivf again .im not sure how you are with the pill but remember it Dosent agree with everyone especially the first few months can be difficult my my idea was to suppress my endo before ttc and it’s only got worse it’s a hard decision to make maybe in time it will get better though I wish you all the best on your journey

[Purplewitch18 in reply to Afrohair]

Thankyou Afro, ill see what the dr says next friday. I hate the pill but just dont know what to do for the best. I want the mirena but i cant have that untill im 100% done with ivf. Youre right you do forget the pain, but there is no way in hell im having another egg collection like that! How are you doing?xx

[Afrohair in reply to Purplewitch18]

With the Mirena you can take it out as you please and your fertility returns the pill can take longer to return .is it the insertion process which worries you.im thinking if I don’t have surgery soon Mirena might be best .im so sorry you suffered with the egg collection I can only wonder how that would be it sounds very tough surely there must be another way hopefully you will get a step closer after your next appointment.thinks are ok with me I’m plodding on ive been a bit down today about everything but I’ll be ok xx

[Purplewitch18 in reply to Afrohair]

Im sorry youve had a crap day too, lets hope tomorrow is better for us both. Its just having to make appointments to have it in and out, where i live you need a drs appointment, family planning clinic will only deal with under 21’s! Which is so stupid. Plus it can take a long time to settle, so thats my permanent option after ivf. If i get pregnant by some huge miracle 🤔, then ill have to have a c section so ill have the mirena straight in, if ivf doesnt work by round 3 im straight to the dr to have it fit. Ill be done with trying by then, its been going on for far too long.

Are you on a waiting list for surgery?xx

[Afrohair in reply to Purplewitch18]

I’m so sorry love that’s heartbreaking to hear but please think positive you have every chance of having a successful pregnancy!yes that does sound a prat about our contraception clinic takes all age group so that is silly.lets hope we both feel better tomorrow .im the same too I’ve said from the beginning I will have coil after my next baby or even take everything out I don’t want to have any trouble afterwards with endo returning might aswell be done with it!im high risk already so have to have a c section again x

[Afrohair in reply to Purplewitch18]

My gyn offered me a diagnosis lap but he’s not specialist so I’m going for another appointment next Monday with a specialist to ask about surgery he’s already said I’m stage 3 or 4 so it’s pointless having diagnostic for them just to have a look I know I’ve got it

[Purplewitch18 in reply to Afrohair]

Yes that is pointless, if you are having a lap then you want it treated aswel, though it will grow back. I wont have another, theres no point for 7 months relief. If i didnt want another child id have the coil in right now. Though mine is so much better because of the diet changes etc, its the fatigue i cant cope with. I just want to be well and im

Starting to want that more than a baby. I need to be well to be a better mother to the child i do have instead of not being able to do things i want to do.

We have talked about adoption so that could happen. This whole process is bloody awful when youve no guarenteed result, its a money pit aswel. I think there has to be a point where you draw the line, and that point is different for everyone.

[Afrohair in reply to Purplewitch18]

Yes that’s very true I’m so sorry your having such a hard time those thoughts go through my mind a lot like why would I let this illness and the thought of another baby take over my life I do have children but with my ex You start to feel bad for your living children and like your leaving them out for an unborn child spending all that money I totally get where your coming from and you want to be well for them and your family I guess when it comes to your relationship you have other thoughts like not giving your partner more children and so forth but endo deeply affects all our relationships with people if I wasn’t thinking of ttc I would be on the coil as it worked for me in the past.ivf takes all your savings then you feel bad for not spending on your other children I’ve thought of all those things I haven’t even took mine on holiday for 2 years but thinking of ivf and operations it’s horrendous but we just want things to be right it’s only natural

[Purplewitch18 in reply to Afrohair]

Exactly, children grow up so fast and i dont want to waste time not doing things with my daughter. We are very close and thats partly because she has all my attention, maybe i shouldnt change that. Today has honestly been one of the worst experiences ive ever had, and the more i think about it the more i realise just what a shambles it was x

[Afrohair in reply to Purplewitch18]

I’m so sorry you feel that way honey hopefully you will get more answers soon ! a lot of our thoughts on fertility can become very strong and overwhelming and sometimes can put you in a dark place try not to think too much thinking of you at this stressful time please don’t see it as a negative think of it as a step forward to move you onto a better place i know it Dosent look that way right now but you will move into better things and become at peace you already sound to me like you’ve almost made your mind up about ivf but do take some time to sleep on it relax have a bubble bath I will pm you tomorrow see how you are x

[Purplewitch18 in reply to Afrohair]

Its just because we have had such a negative experience and had to pay for the privalidge. We wasted money on consultations at the first clinic who messed us about a lot and were just awful, then had a much better experience and cycle with this clinic untill today. Trusting people with such an important thing as our fertility is huge! And i just dont think i trust anyone enough. I will sleep on it as you say and speak to the dr next week, and i will be very direct about everything. Youre right because at this very moment i dont want to waste more time and money on ivf. Bless you, thankyou hunny xx

[Afrohair in reply to Purplewitch18]

It sounds so difficult makes me not even want to consider but who knows what the future holds finance is a big part which affects families a lot of emotions can run wild,blame credit card debts and nothing to show for it

[Lots8788]

So sorry lovely x big hugs to you xx