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Hi, is anyone else going through a second fresh round? It would be good to have a buddy or 2 to talk to.

I thought it would be easier this time because we have been through the process before, but it's still very stressful with lots of unknowns 😬

My last round didn't go well and only ended up with 3 eggs/ 1 fertilised embryo!

This round I have an increased dose of menopur and I'm praying for more eggs this time. Iv got my first progress scan on Friday. Wish me luck πŸ€ x

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Loopielu profile image
Loopielu

Hey lovely - best of luck for the next cycle! I'm not starting mine until the end of next month because of cycle timing/holiday but I'll be thinking of you! x

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sharpy87 in reply to Loopielu

Thank you! X

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SharonHamilton

Best of luck to you on your next cycle!

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sharpy87 in reply to SharonHamilton

Thank you x

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Lou290901

Same for us, 2nd fresh cycle but not till the end of Sept! Good luck x

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sharpy87 in reply to Lou290901

Good luck! Hopefully we will all have more luck second time around x

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lorraineb61

We're on our second fresh ICSI cycle!! EC is this morning so slightly ahead of you at the moment. Hoping for better results this time too- we had 3 eggs collected last time, which all fertiliser but not great quality. 2 were put back in but didn't work - the 3rd one wasn't good enough for freezing. So, here's hoping for better result this morning. Good luck for this cycle xx

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sharpy87 in reply to lorraineb61

Hi, How did your collection go today? Iv had my fingers crossed for you x

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lorraineb61 in reply to sharpy87

Hi, not great - only managed to collect 1 egg. Pretty gutted tbh. The clinic have phoned and told us that it is mature and they have injected it so we just need to wait and see if it fertiliser overnight. Hope your scan goes well tomorrow x

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sharpy87 in reply to lorraineb61

I'm so sorry! All this ivf is so tough! Sending you lots of hugs. I know it's the most annoying thing for people to say... but it does only take one! I hope things go well for you.

Were you expecting more? Did you have a lot of follicles in scans?

Will they do a 2 day transfer? That's what I had last time. X

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lorraineb61 in reply to sharpy87

I know it only takes 1 but it's hard telling my brain that!!! The scans showed 4 follicles and the bloods suggested possibly 5 so absolutely gutted to only come away with 1. However it's mature and has been injected so now onto the waiting game! The embryologist talked today about a 3 day transfer but recommended a 5 day transfer so i think we'll wait for that x

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sharpy87 in reply to lorraineb61

If you can get a day 5 transfer that will be amazing!

My clinic won't go to day 5 unless you have 3 embryo so we were allowed!

Are you feeling okay about it? X

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lorraineb61 in reply to sharpy87

We are with a private clinic so even if there's 1, they will make every attempt to get it back In!! Feeling ok about it now, if we can get the call in the morning to say that it has fertiliser then that would be Great! If not, then we're back at square 1 again!!

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sharpy87 in reply to lorraineb61

We are private as well. They said to me last time that they will put it back straight away if you have less than 3 embryos.

Have you had the call today? I hope it was great news x

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BonnieCH in reply to lorraineb61

Can I ask how your second cycle went? I've just my first failed attempt with the exact same story as you. Feeling pretty overwhelmed today X

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lorraineb61 in reply to BonnieCH

Hi Bonnie,

Our second cycle failed. The solitary egg that we had failed to fertiliser overnight so it was all over before it began!!

We are now patching ourselves up for the 3rd cycle. I have started taking DHEA so have to give that 3 months for it to take effect.

It's really hard this whole process, we put so much hope into it all to just get ripped away!

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BonnieCH in reply to lorraineb61

Hi Lorraine,

I'm sorry to hear your second cycle didn't develop. How long did you wait between cycles? Have your cycles been more tailored?

I'm guessing it just gets harder. I didn't expect to be so devastated as I have been the past 24 hours.

Best of luck to you with your next cycle X

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sharpy87 in reply to BonnieCH

Hi,

Our second round failed. I went from 225 menopur to 375 menopur.

The follicles grew very quick but still not high volumes.

We got 6 eggs collected and all 6 fertilised. We though it was going amazing until day 5.

By day 5 we still had 6 but they were all bad quality.

I had 2 early blasts put back that were average/ poor quality. 4 days after the transfer a started spotting and it was over 😒 !

I don't know what went wrong. We have a review meeting with the consultant next week so we'l see what he says.

They have suggested a short protocol next time! X

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BonnieCH in reply to sharpy87

Thank you for sharing your experience. So hopefully your consultant will now work to improve your egg quality? I started on 150 menopur, which is low but my AMH level was really high. I'm 35 and the consultant told me the usual amount for 35 plus is 300. In hindsight I think they should of started me on 300 as I only had 4 follicles after one week on the med.

I've been told to take pregnacare. I've just been taking box standard folic acid and vitamin d to date.

Are you taking any extra supplements?

Best of luck with your appointment. My follow up is booked for the 31st.

Keep me posted how you go X

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BonnieCH in reply to BonnieCH

I'm actually 36!! The day has taken its toll on me πŸ™‰πŸ˜‚X

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sharpy87 in reply to BonnieCH

I'm only just 30! I never thought I would be in this position so young. We have already been trying for 2.5 years! πŸ™ˆ x

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sharpy87 in reply to BonnieCH

Iv stopped taking everything ATM. I was on metformin for pcos but I don't know if I even have it.

I'm going to see what the consultant says.

Last round I had a collection 3 days early and I'm worried that the high dose made them grow too quick and the quality was effected. The first round I only had 1 embryo but it was good quality.

It's all a minefield of unanswerable questions! X

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C_L_A_I_R_E

I'm on second fresh icsi cycle. I'm a little ahead. Third stimming scan in fri and ec either mon or tues.

'Common follies grow grow grow! πŸ€πŸ€žπŸ»'

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sharpy87 in reply to C_L_A_I_R_E

Hi, how have your previous progress scans gone? Better than last time? How did last time go?

I have my first scan tomorrow and I have it in my head that this scan will tell me how it will all go! I'm hoping for more than 9 follicles as that's what I saw last time! X

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C_L_A_I_R_E in reply to sharpy87

Hi,

My day 7 scan saw 9 follies and day 9 saw 10 and some very small ones. I think I'm happy with 9 if the quality is good. Last icsi cycle I collected 14 eggs but only 1 went to blastocyst and non to freeze😞

So I'm all about quality and not quantity this time round!

How's your scans? When's your egg collection?

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sharpy87 in reply to C_L_A_I_R_E

That sounds really good. Do you know what sizes they are? I really hope they are great quality for you.

They always say quality over quantity.

My problem last time was they didn't go together. Even though I had 9, they were all different sizes and at EC point only 3 were mature x

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El1a80

Hi im on my second icsi cycle but a bit ahead of you as im in the 2ww. Wishing you lots of luck and hope it goes well xx

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sharpy87 in reply to El1a80

Hi,

How did your second round go? Better than last time? Did you do a lot different this time? X

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El1a80 in reply to sharpy87

Hi, changed from merional to bemfola and upped dosage second time round. Had more eggs and grew better. Had two blastocyst transferred so just keeping fingers crossed. None for freezing which was a bit disappointing but embryos didn't get to blastocyst stage last time so definitely better this time round.

Will be thinking of you tomorrow, hope it goes well. Keep me posted x

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sharpy87 in reply to El1a80

That sounds really good! I'm praying for a blastocyst this time round. They will only transfer 1 for me as I'm under 30!

Fingers crossed for you! When is your test date?

Did you feel different this time round? I feel uncomfortable this time and bloated- which didn't happen last time! So I'm hoping something more has happened this time! X

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El1a80 in reply to sharpy87

If your starting to feel bloated that sounds positive! I definitely felt more bloated this time, in the second week particularly and had twice as many eggs collected as first time. I started panicking at first scan that there weren't enough and too small at my 5 day scan but they got there so dont put too much pressure on yourself tomorrow, its early days.

Testing monday, not long now! X

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sharpy87 in reply to El1a80

Omg how exciting! How are you feeling? X

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El1a80 in reply to sharpy87

Feel ok, been tired and had some nasty headaches over last week but think thats probably due to cyclogest. Part of me doesnt want to test as dont want to know if its negative! Will have to be brave tho!

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sharpy87 in reply to El1a80

They sound like really good signs. I started spotting after 8 days last time so I knew early in that it didn't work.

I really hope it happens for you. X

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Spottydog444

I'm currently going through my 2nd cycle 2. My last cycle I had 3 eggs collected but none fertilised so didn't make it to transfer! I'm getting a scan on Friday and hoping for egg collection on Monday. Good luck for your cycle and feel free to message me if you ever need to chat. I know how lonely ivf can feel sometimes... x

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sharpy87 in reply to Spottydog444

Hi, sorry to hear about last time. It must of been very difficult.

What have you done different this time around? X

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Spottydog444 in reply to sharpy87

Aww thank you. It was hard. It didn't even cross my mind that we would t make it to transfer if we had the eggs collected. Never mind. They have started me on the drugs at a much higher dose to get my levels up straight away and my egg collection went wrong last time and I ended up having an abdominal collection without sedation so they have now said the top consultant has guaranteed he will do egg collection this time too so hopefully will be a different story this time. I'm on day 11 of stims and have another progress scan tomorrow. Hope your follies are growing well 😁 X

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sharpy87 in reply to Spottydog444

Have you already had a progress scan? Did you have more or less follicles this time? X

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Spottydog444 in reply to sharpy87

Yeah I had one on wed as they thought I was ready but they not quite big enough yet. I had more this time but I have a lot of follicles on both sides each time. Last time tho a lot of the follicles were empty which they had no reason for x

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sharpy87 in reply to Spottydog444

Fingers crossed they are all full of juicy eggs this time! Are you still booked in for collection on Monday? X

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Spottydog444 in reply to sharpy87

Aww thank you. Yeah I have my scan tomorrow to confirm and then hopefully be Monday :) how are you getting on? Is your egg collection Monday? X

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sharpy87 in reply to Spottydog444

Iv got my first progress scan tomorrow! 😬 I'm very nervous! I only had 9 last time of which only 3 mature eggs were collected! I'm hoping for a few more tomorrow. Egg collection is due next Friday x

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Spottydog444 in reply to sharpy87

It will be fine I'm sure :) you will have to keep me posted how you get on. Good luck 🀞 x

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Patty74 in reply to Spottydog444

I'm on my second cycle too 2nd scan tomorrow only had 2 follicles responding on Monday. Have you had a blood test my private clinic said they don't bother with them anymore!! I'm praying for good next tomorrow. Good luck x

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Spottydog444 in reply to Patty74

Yeah I have to go for bloods every Monday Wednesday and Friday while stimming and they use the results of these to alter the dosage. I have everything crossed you get good news at your scan tomorrow 🀞 X

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sharpy87 in reply to Patty74

My clinic only do blood tests if they are worried about something. They don't do it as standard.

How did your last cycle go?

Good luck for tomorrow! X

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fayzee94

hiya im just starting my first fresh icsi/ivf cycle! we are on long protocol and start our first injection 27th august and all going well our pregnancy test date is 15thj October!

whats your start date?

xx

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sharpy87 in reply to fayzee94

Hi, Iv been stimming for 5 days now- tonight will be my 6th night. I have my first progress scan tomorrow. Iv been feeling very uncomfortable and bloated (that I didn't feel last time) so I'm hoping that's a good sign.

How did your first round go? X

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fayzee94 in reply to sharpy87

hey

this is my first round :) good luck with your scan today!! xx

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Lamorna80

I'm just about to start our fresh 2nd round of icsi.

First cycle I had lots of follicles but all varying sizes so only ended up with 4 eggs, 3 of which fertilised & made it to blastocyst stage but after 2 were popped back in, the didn't embed :(

They've changed my meds somewhat as they feel I'm not at risk of OHSS.

I know what you mean about on the one hand feeling more prepared for what's ahead but also apprehensive of how to deal with any disappointment.

I'm due for egg collection 20th Sept, how about you?

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sharpy87 in reply to Lamorna80

I have just been for my first progress this morning. This morning Iv got 3 x 17mm, 1 x 15mm, 2 x 14mm, 1 x 11mm, 2 x 9mm and 1 x 8mm

They have given me 3 more days of the higher dose. Iv got another scan Monday and hopefully collection on Wednesday!

Have you started injecting yet? X

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Lamorna80 in reply to sharpy87

I start injecting on the 9th. Still taking norhisterone at the moment for them to 'take control' of my cycle.

Week, so close for you now, I've got everything crossed! 🀞🀞

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C_L_A_I_R_E in reply to sharpy87

Sharpy87 this is good! We are similar. Had my scan today too. I'm having an extra day stimming so egg collection is Tuesday.

Well done us! πŸ’ͺ🏻

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buckyberry

I'm about to start my meds for 2nd round. I was surprisingly ok last time but definitely more flustered about getting everything right this time around! I asked for increased dosage this time as I was in a minimal stimulation protocol last time. All they done is increase my clomid slightly, menopur etc exactly the same as before. Still minimal stim but apparently they think it's enough to increase egg yield. Last time I had 3 with 2 that made it to embryos and were transferred. This time I'm really hoping for more so we can maybe try a frozen cycle next time if we aren't lucky this time again. I'm obviously hoping not to need it but I'm also planning ahead. I'm 40 in a few weeks so I need to g realistic too. Good luck with the scan, fingers crossed 🀞🏻 for more this time!!

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sharpy87 in reply to buckyberry

Hi, I think everyone dreams of getting something to freeze! I know I do anyway 😊 I don't know how successful frozen rounds are though.

I had my scan today. I haven't got a lot more follicles than last time (one more) but the higher dose has made them grow a lot quicker. I'm happy that Iv got more bigger follicles. Hopefully egg collecting next week will be successful. Good luck with your next round! X

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