Hi just wondering if anyone out there would like to talk? Could do with some support right now going through a difficult time with fertility.
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It's nice to be able to talk to one another xx how are you?? Xx
Thanks for the resoponsr not feeling too great today. How are you Kelly? Where are you based. I'm new to this group
I'm in Cornwall x how are you feeling today xx
Hey there are always loads of people around on here to talk to. Infertility is so difficult and you go through some days which are much easier than others x
Sure is. How long have you brrn coming here? What's your story if you don't mind me asking xx
Just started down regging two days ago from my second icsi cycle. Ttc 3 1/2 yrs and I couldn't have got throughout it without everyone on here. Found this forum in my ttw in my first icsi cycle last Aug xx
Similar to me I am 3 years down the line now however only just booked into to see a fertility clinic. My and my partner had all the test and mine were fine his were low count but then retest was normal/average. Just so much limbo as I feel like maybe it's gone back low what result was the right one? Anyways going to the specialist 1st June enough is enough now we can't take much more x
Sorry what's down regging? I hope that this works for you xx
These are the injections you take before you start stimulation (growing lots of eggs) you have them before and during your next period then start stimulation so very early stages. If all goes to plan (which it rarely ever does) my egg collection is for around the 1st of may xx
Have you had many side effects xx
Not really I'm incredibly tired this time around but I think that is pretty common with buserilin. I had no side effects at all last cycle so here's hoping I won't this time either 🤞🏻 the biggest side effect I think is emotional rather than physical x
I've just started following you so feel free to direct message me any time x
Thankyou you too. I hope things work out this time for you! I am seeing the specialist 1st June and thinking of just going straight for the IVF x
Well good luck for then, keep us all updated on how that appointment goes and in the mean time jut enjoy getting to know all the lovely ladies on here in the comfort that we are all in this together x
Welcome Daxi. This is the nicest and most supportive group of ladies ever! Lots of information, kindness and understanding. I am sure you will find that it gives you a lot of strength to keep going.
Sorry to hear you are having a rough time...infertility is a very complex and heartbreaking thing x
Thanks for your kind words it really is. I feel so angry right now. Angry at everyone and everything x
I just read your page! I really hope everything goes well for you. It's sometimes just nice to know your not alone xx
Thank you. When you feel ready to share you can be assured of lots of women who 'get' the isolation,depression, exhaustion and anger that being on this road brings. It is okay to be angry...it is a random and massively unfair blow for so many people. Everyone's story is personal amd unique but you are definitely not alone x
I've just found out both my sisters are pregnant both within the first month of trying. This is also the second baby they have both had while I have been trying for this one. I'm happy for them obviously but finding it hard to cope x
I've just found out both my sisters are pregnant both within the first month of trying. This is also the second baby they have both had while I have been trying for this one. I'm happy for them obviously but finding it hard to cope x
Welcome to the group. We had tests with the gp saying hubby's swimmers were low-ish motility on one then when it was repeated it was normal. When we had them repeated at the ivf clinic they said the sample wasnt great and we needed icsi.
Moral of the story, gps aren't great for fertility but take some hope that you are being referred to the specialists who do this day in day out and will figure out the best treatment for you both x
Wow that's so similar isn't it to my situation. Have you had you ICSI yet? First of all they said that's what we needed. Then came back as normal and signed off so now we are going Private after another 8 months. I heard that NHS class low count below 15 million and private below 20 milllion is that correct? My OH was 17 million so signed off by NHS but maybe not by private xx
I did not think nhs criteria had sperm count as a criteria? I thought you can have unexplained fertility issues and still get funding. The funding rules depends on ccg criteria and are a postcode lottery. Thought the main criteria were age, bmi, whether or not you've had previous children and how long you've been trying.
Sperm count can get better though as others have seen.
I also have endo and only one ovary so got funding based on Dr opinion after a laproscopy plus we met all other criteria.
Just finished our first round and 6 weeks today with an embie in the freezer. Got the first scan next week.
Sorry yes that's what I mean I have a previous child of 9 years so I am not entitled to any help just basic tests. Good luck on your journey! Fingers crossed for you xx
With icsi fertilisation rates are over 90% so if you go that path it takes that factor out. All three of our embies collected fertilised with icsi although one wasnt big enough to freeze.
I don't have any friends (that I know of!) That have done ivf and it feels completely isolating especially when you start all the drugs and have loads of questions. The forum is incredibly supportive and we are all here for each other good times and bad.
Hi Daxi. You will find lots of support here. Whenever you have a question or need to vent you will find you're in the right place. And remember all the ladies on here understand x
Hi daxi the whole fertility journey is incredibly tough i have low days and really hard days and times when I feel so angry and upset but today has been a good day as I've been with friends in the park so I just have to be grateful for these days when it's gets hard. You'll find lots of support here all the girls and guys are very supportive and have lots of advice and information to share and you realise that there are lots of other ppl going to the same thing. Wishing you all the best with your up and coming appointments xxx
That is extremely difficult 
I am sure that you are very happy for them, but I am guessing there is a big part of you that just wishes it was your joy. It's hard when others take for granted something you would die for!
I know there is no magic wand but I try to find peace in the fact that one day, I will have my place in the sun, one day it will be MY turn. It still smarts that friends have popped out babies like Smarties and we have expended so much time, money and effort but I am still hopeful and believe we will get there.
So while that doesn't alter your harsh reality at the moment, one day it will be your time. "Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not over, it's not the end"
Thinking of you xxx
O yes that's how I feel. I feel so angry I could punch something. I know nothing worth having ever comes easy but this shouldn't be this hard. I just know when it works out for us all it will be extra special xxx
This is definitely the place to come to talk, rant & look for help. It's a daily routine for me! Welcome! Good luck on your journey. The start can be hard to accept you're there but be thankful you are xx
Hi Daxi, I am new to this forum too. Been looking for something like this for ages, didn't even know it existed! I can relate so much! Sometimes there are those days when it's hard not to feel sad, angry, upset and totally without hope but it's good to know others feel the same and we also have those days where we can dream of the baby we hope to have and we can believe in our heart or hearts that one day that dream will be our reality! 😘 it's a roller coaster ride for sure on the infertility journey xx
Me too! I finally searched last night it a whirl wind of tears after my sister send a pic of her positive test. I thought I need to talk to somebody else who is going through this. My OH is finding my behaviour hard and it's pushing us away. I think my relationship is on the brink of demise. How are you holding up has this been a long journey for you? Love and thoughts xxx
Honestly today has been a bad day. A comment from a friend (who wouldn't have intentionally set out to hurt me) about how everyone is pregnant at the moment coupled with a pregnancy test we thought was positive but that turned out to be evap lines followed by 3 negative tests and my period arriving sent me into a similar emotional state as urself, feeling desperately sad. And totally agree re: relationship, it's one of the hardest things a couple will have to go through. My other half also finds me difficult at times but I think they just handle it in a different way. I feel it can be more emotional for the woman because we get that glimmer of hope that we have a pregnancy symptom and get our hopes up only for them to shatter. Though i know its hard for the men too! It must be so hard for u with ur sisters. It sucks that it's so hard for some whilst others find it so easy. One piece of advice someone did give me is that ive held oj to is when it is our time we will appreciate every minute and it will mean all the more to us for that reason. I've been TTC for over 18 months, have high prolactin, low AMH, irregular cycles and hubby has low sperm count. We've been together 13.5 years so jus expected it to happen when we decided which of course it didn't. I've also recently been diagnosed with pressure on the brain after having a brain scan for a suspected brain tumour. So thankfully not as serious as suspected but the pressure causes irregular cycles. Still nothing definitive to explain why we haven't been able to conceive. What about you? I tried to find your story on your page but couldn't. 🙈 im probably looking in the wrong place. Sending lots of love, I totally get how ur feeling. Xx
Wow I'm sorry to hear about your brain. Scan puts my problems into perspective now. What is low AMH? Sorry. We have been trying to conceive for 3 years but unreality we had hardly ever used protection but natural method. Been together 6 years. I've had much the same as you Evap lines as I'm pretty sure 2 chemical as I still have the tests and there are lines but they were only £1 ones so who knows. We have had all the tests and mine were Normal. My partners came back low everything only 5 million per mill and low morph etc. So we re did the test and it came back 17 million. So again a total mind game. 8 months on we have accepted we need help. I just don't know what results to trust what if they have reverted back to 5 million and we are just throwing mud at the wall. It seems like everyone has been pregnant and it's awful. I've even purchased clomid in Spain. No reason why but I was desperate. Second round of them now. My OH works away too in hot conditions so it all doesn't help. I really feel your pain, part of me counts every symptom until AF and then when she shows it's half relief and half agony.xxx
Low AMH is basically low ovarian reserve so it tells the doctor I have a lot less eggs than I should and he said it meant that I would move to IVF treatment sooner than someone with a better ovarian reserve who effectively has more time left to conceive. I'm in the same boat as u...plenty of times we could have been pregnant over the years but never had any 'accidents'. Have u been to fertility clinic or jus the GP so far? Totally understand why u went ahead and got clomid. I nearly did that myself. Unfortunately my consultant told me it wouldn't work for me in my position as he believes I am ovulating so he said the side effects would out weigh the potential benefits. So only option for us is ICSI. That's so confusing and frustrsting when ur hubby has got different results. Here's hoping the higher result means something!! That must make it even harder when ur other half works away, totally empathise with u! Xx
O ok I understand AHM now. No clomid is not a good idea for low reserve as it makes you release more eggs and you need to reserve them. I am ovulating as far as tests say but I've read they give it often for unexplained as a last resort before IVF. All was ok on my part apparently.How old are you? At first with my OH poor sperm sample they said ICSI was the only option. We were so shocked and then a normal result so it's a total roller coaster. I've been to a fertility clinic here but through the NHS. I have a daughter from a previous relationship she is 9 now and cries to have a sibling. We therefore now have to pay private but had the basics on NHS. I have my appointment booked in for 1st June. It would be amazing I never needed to attend but I can't see it. The clomid had made me crazy hormonal. Have you decided if your going for ICSI? Are you able to get the funding? Just know your not alone xx
Hi I am new to this site. It's lovely that ladies can have a good chat about the stresses of ivf and infertility. I have just had my egg collection and back for transfer Wednesday. Am finding it all very difficult too xx
Hi and welcome, I am new too! Absolute best of luck with your transfer, I really hope it works for u! An exciting and nerve wrecking time I'm sure. It's great to have a place where people can offload and support each other, no matter what stage of the journey xxx
Thanks Hun. It's nice to know how others are feeling so you know you're not crazy and hopefull support each other along the way xx
Welcome I am new today too! I love the name xx how was the egg collection was it painless? I have everything crossed for you for Wednesday xx
Thanks Hun. The name is so very appropriate right now. Just ask my poor husband who is hiding in the kitchen probably wondering if chocolate will put him back in my good books.
The egg collection is painless as I was sedated ( the most chilled 1/2 hour of my life for months) after you feel sore and a bit bloated but much less bloated than when full of eggs. I have been given progesterone suppositories to have twice daily and they play games with already fragile emotions.
So many different emotions to deal with though all at once.
Where are you at in the ivf crazyness? Xx
Ha ha tell him to pass the chocolate! That's good to know about the egg collection. I have an appointment booked with a specialist on 1st June. They will really do OH sperm analysis and then go from there. I am only at the start of the road unfortunately but it feels good to take control and book the appointment. When will you find out more xx
The egg collection is a breeze Hun. Don't worry about it. We know we have 8 embryo's following collection and I am now debating one or two for transplant?? I am nearly 37. We had to abandon first cycle then had to have a break before starting again so time is ticking by.
We will be called in again Wednesday to see how the embryo's are doing and possible transplant if things are good.
It's a good feeling once you've had the first appointment as it's a step in The right direction xx
That is a tough call I was wondering about that for myself, 1 or 2 for transplant. Are you sitting more on one side of the fence than the other? Xx
We don't do things by halves so I am edging towards 2 but it makes me very nervous as I have twins in my dads family. What are swaying towards? Xx
I am waiting to have my first ICSI so haven't yet experienced what ur describing but can empathise that it sounds so challenging. Of course we are willing to put ourselves through it for the end result but still -definitely not easy. Is this your first round? I really hope it works for u and partner xxx
This is first time we have got further that egg stimulation as last time my right ovary was lazy and didn't produce any eggs and my left side only gave us tiny eggs. Had a drug change this time and that worked. Was producing like a good battery hen. Like you say though, it's all worth it in the end hopefully.
My best advice is talk to each other lots. The drugs will make you a bit crazy and first time round I just kept quiet but as always it would come out eventually, using with me sobbing and shouting at the same time with no real reason why. But this time I have talked about how I feel as then hubby doesn't take my moods personally. It's easier said than done when it's him breathing too loudly that's annoying me, how does he not take that personally?
I hope your cycle goes well when you get started xx
Haha yes heavy breathing is enough to tip any woman over the edge when hormonal. Ur right as long as they know it's not personal it's easier for them to handle us! I didn't even realise that could happen re Ur first stimulation, good to know that if it does there is a solution and fab this other drug worked so well for u! I think I am edging towards 2 eggs if the clinic lets me. Like u I don't do things by half 
there are twins on hubby's side of the family too! Though I will probably listen to whatever doctor advises for me, not sure what that advice will be atm! Sending love and positive thoughts ur way Xx
Who knew breathing could be so annoying. If he snores, god help him!!!
The first time was hard going to keep going back for scans with bad news each time but I guess all drugs are hit and miss to see what suits us individually.
My Dr didn't say no on Friday she just said we will see??
Thanks for the kind wishes. We have everything crossed xx
Hi Daxi, I had EC on Thursday and while the procedure was fine I have been in a reasonable amount of pain since. While some of the discomfort is due to my ovaries being sore the main culprit is constipation and trapped wind; which is causing my tummy to look 4 months pregnant! Honestly I was waddling it was so uncomfortable and sitting down or getting up was really painful. I would suggest taking something to help soften things up before your EC just in case and if you do find yourself in pain drink lots of water, peppermint tea, hot lemon and turmeric etc. and eat things like prunes, figs, dates...and use a hot water bottle and take pain killers if you need to.
Everyone reacts differently though so hopefully you'll be lucky and won't suffer too much🤞xx
Hey
I have just had egg collection and having the same pain and discomfort you describe. Am also hugely bloated. Can't do my jeans up!!! Was worrying is was OHSS.
Are you also taking progesterone? Xx
Hi 🙂
Yes I have progesterone pessaries which probably exacerbated things, although I'm feeling heaps better today.
From what I've read over the past few days these symptoms aren't unusual and 'may' be linked to a mild case of ohss. I think the difference between what I felt and full blown ohss is that I was going for a no. 1 regularly and wasn't vomiting. Also my tummy was swollen but it definitely felt constipated rather than distended. The pain from the ec meant I just couldn't 'push' anything out (sorry tmi). It was horrendous.
If you're in doubt though and think it could be ohss you should call your clinic.
Fingers crossed it eases quickly for you, keep the peppermint tea close and go for lots of little walks to help loosen things up xx
So how long is the drugs cycle before the egg retrieval girls? X
I was on a long protocol and the 'happy path' plan was 3 1/2 weeks of drugs and a day of rest before EC but my follicles had other plans and I had an extra 4 days of stabbing 😩 xx
Yes just read your story so are your embryos going back next week? Are you going for 2 or 1? Best of luck to you xxx
We have the option of transfer tomorrow on day 4 or if they look strong enough we can take them to day 5 - depends how brave we are at that point! It's so nerve wracking having to make that decision.
Our clinic prefer to transfer just one but will give the choice of two if the quality isn't great. We'd definitely go for two if that was the case 😊 xx
How exciting. My sister had IVF and they only wanted her to have one put Back. She pushed for 2 and had one work! Second time same story 2 put back and one worked. Obviously it's a very big decision! How would you feel about twins xxx
I wouldn't mind but with the associated risks for both the babies and me I can understand why they advise against it. And my husband has said he'd be a nervous wreck worrying about us all 😊 We'll see what happens tomorrow though, it's all about the grading xx
It is a bit more risky with twins I guess but in for a penny and all that?? Xx
What's the difference between transplant on day 4 or 5? We didn't have a choice? Xx
I didn't realise it was possible either and the clinic said it wasn't common but it was what the embryologist suggested so I guess they don't argue with them 😊 From what I could find on Google yesterday the embryo transitions to a morula between day 3 & 4 and it this stage that the male chromosomes kick in. This is why some lose embryos at this stage - chromosomal abnormalities. The benefit though is that you get a clearer idea of the strongest one for transfer and of the scientific articles I read yesterday the success rates aren't all that different between day 4 & 5. Unfortunately there isn't a heading
*grading system for day 4 xx
It's so interesting how they do all this stuff. We paid for embryoscope monitoring so they get pictures every ten min. Am hoping this help them pick the best one (or two) for transfer. Xx
We had use of an embryoscope and it was lovely seeing pictures of the progress when we went in today, we left with day 4 pictures of both the embies that we transferred. Quite a momento 😊 xx
Wow!! I hope we get to see ours Wednesday too. Will get the pictures.
Sending you so many best wishes. Xxx
Ditto my lovely 😊 xx
So how long is the drugs cycle before the egg retrieval girls? X
The constipation is a delightful bonus, said no one, ever!! As if we need any more bloating and discomfort.
I took your advice and called the nurse who has reassured me. She thinks I was under estimating what the egg collection would do to me. If it gets worse I can call tomorrow and they will check me over.
These progesterone drugs are making me very irritated though and my poor boobs are like rocks and so painful. Have they made you feel different? Xx
To be fair they are so good at preparing us for everything - apart from the egg collection recovery! The only reason I didn't call my clinic was because of the other stories I'd read on forums.
Yep I'm on progesterone - sore boobs, bloating and tiredness mainly. The things we go through to get our happy ending!! xx
It was a total shock to hear we had to have ICSI as I jus assumed we could try some of the things I have read up about that other people have tried first. But now I've got my head round it I jus want to get it started! My other half was in denial for a really long time and I'd say it's only the last month he's accepted we will be gtn ICSI. It will be july/ august when we get "the call" lol and im told a date will be set witin 6 weeks but that date could be within 3 months so could b anytime between August to Nov/Dec 2017. I am going for the HSG exam next week and have heard a small rise in pregnancies occur after it including 2 people I know so it's worth a try. I really hope the clomid works for u, it would be fantastic if u didn't have to pay for treatment. It's such a big expense. That's heartbreaking ur daughter cries for a sibling, I know ud love for nothing more than to be able to give her a brother or sister. Me and hubby have no children so we get 1 round of ICSI free. It's still alot of pressure in case it doesn't work so we have had to put on hold work that needs done on the house etc in case we need to pay for round 2. Me and hubby are both 31, wbu? Xxx
I'm 31 same as you 😊. 32 in July, it rings so true about he denial. I had a blazing row last night with my partner when he sat there and said he didn't think we had tried hard enough and we were only going to the specialist appointment for me! We couldn't had tried any more! Clomid timing for ovulation temping. Using soft cups using pre seed! You name it we have tried it. It sounds like your in the system tho and on your way to ICSI! what clinic are you using? I know the results for ICSI are very good. Don't put too much pressure on yourself for it to work if you can as it doesn't help xxx
Sometimes easier to let them think they are going just for you to get the ball rolling isn't it. I know if I had of waited until he said it was time I'd be a year behind where I am now. He thought I was crazy telling the doctor lol. But finally gtn his head round it now. Jus took him a good bit longer than me. But strangely I was the mess when doctor told us ICSI and he was rly calm so I guess we all jus handle it differently. I am based in NI at regional fertility centre. I haven't tried temping is it worth a go or does it just create more stress? Xx
It's a stress to be honest just another thing to symptom spot/google!! My OH is the same still things we can just carry on. I've assured him we can't and there is a problem! Thanks so much for talking today it's been a huge help. Going to get an early night. Let's talk tomorrow take care xxx
Thanks for the chat today ladies it's really helped. I'm going to bed now I feel exhausted stay strong and hopefully we can catch up tomorrow xxx
Any time u feel sad, frustrated, angrybor just alone u can come here! U can pretty much vent about anything as u can guarantee someone or everyone will have gone thru same thing and will get it!
Big hugs x
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