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Sad news I'm afraid... 11dp3dt... My blood test was negative and the bleeding that started this morning turned out to be my period. It's been an awful day, I've been so sad. It's not the end of the road though, they managed to culture my 3rd wee embryo to day 5 so I have a good quality blastocyst in the freezer. Just need to allow my body to recover from the treatment and try to get my head round the sadness & disappointment 😒

Can anyone tell me what's involved in a frozen transfer and how long you need to wait after a failed cycle?

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Hollibob

Sorry to hear this cycle didn't work, but all is not lost with your little frozen one...x

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noodles_ in reply to Hollibob

Thanks Hollibob x x

Hi so sorry Hun to hear this take time to get through this. I would say take three months of. If you can wait that long. On one of my failed cycles I went again the next month. I found that not enough time for me. For me a frozen transfer you take pills to thicken your linning. And then they book you in for transfer as soon as they are happy. So a lot quicker. And much less impact on your body. Xxx lots of love sweetie. Xx

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Thanks for the advice piglet12. Frozen transfer sounds so much easier x x

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Lucy26

I asked that question to my clinic & they told me this period and one more then before the next one (third) you can start.

I'm so so sorry it didn't work out for you this time, but if tang little embie made it to day 5..... It defo wants to meet you!!! It's light at the End of the tunnel.

Wish I could help with your pain in some way... Thoughts are with you x x x x 😘 x.

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noodles_ in reply to Lucy26

Thanks Lucy. My follow up appointment is not until 18th May so I'm guessing it will be discussed then. The hospital mentioned July/August for my frozen transfer but I wasn''t sure if that was nhs waiting lists dictating the waiting time or whether you had to give your body a minimum time period to recover before starting again x x

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Hope23

So sorry. It is so sad all of this. When the embryo doesn't implant you just ask yourself so many questions and analyse every little thing. I know I did in march. Unfortunately even though there are many success stories IVF is a lottery. BUT you have a lovely strong frosty all waiting for you and a frozen transfer is so much easier and quicker than a fresh. I would wait about 3 to 4 months before going again

Take care xx

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noodles_ in reply to Hope23

Thanks for the advice Hope23. At the moment it just feels so unfair as I hoped with all my heart that I would be one of the lucky ones. I'm so sorry you've had such a difficult time too. The only people that truly understand what we're going through are the people on here which is a great comfort to me x x x

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Flossy85

So sorry to hear that noodles :( keep strong hun allow yourself time to gather your thoughts.

I have had a fresh transfer and two frozen transfers. Now on my 2nd round. My clinic liked me to have at least one more period in between cycles so your body has time to heal and regulate itself again. For a frozen transfer I think you can do medicated or non medicated where it is put in at a certain time in your cycle. For me I did medicated, I took oestrogen tablets for about 3-4week and had a scan to check the lining of my uterus was thick enough (think it's gotta be over 8mm thick) then you just go in and have a transfer and use progesterone pessaries. It's much less complicated and more relaxed. Good luck for the future. Sending lots of hugs your way xxx

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noodles_ in reply to Flossy85

Thanks for the advice Flossy85. I'm trying my hardest to stay strong and taking one day at a time. I'm a bit worried about my endo flaring up while I wait for my frozen transfer as my fresh cycle of treatment had to be pushed back at the beginning of the year because within the space of 2 months 2 cysts (one large, one small) formed in my left ovary and the hospital said I would need another laparoscopy to have them removed. Fortunately the big cyst ruptured by iteself 4 days later and I was able to proceed with my IVF treatment with just the small cyst in my ovary. The hospital drained my cyst during EC in order to get to the follicles. A frozen transfer definitely sounds much simpler :-) x x

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Flossy85 in reply to noodles_

Oh that sounds awful noodles, I have endo too and have had 3laparoscopys to remove 3giant cysts in the past, it certainly sounds much worse for you as mine don't normally come back for 12mth. Speak to your clinic and let them know you are happy to try a FET sooner rather than later and explain why. As long as your body has healed they may plan your cycle at the best time hopefully as early as possible. A frozen transfer is certainly easier, for me it was just tablets, scan and transfer which was more comfortable much like a smear test as no pain or swelling etc from EC. Good luck hun try stay strong, keep thinking your time will come. Xxx sending u hugs xxx

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rainbowbreeze80

Sorry for your bad news xx I'm in the same position my appointments on the 18th May as well..thought I'd be wanting to try with our frostie straight away but realised I need some time to recover so weve booked a hol and will be waiting till Aug/Sept. Give yourself some time if you need to xxx

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noodles_ in reply to rainbowbreeze80

Thanks rainbowbreeze80. I'm so sorry to hear you're in the same position as me. I'm desperate to try again, I'm going to be 40 in January and it's been such a long wait to even get to this stage that I just want to charge on. I'm also worried about the length of time I need to wait before I can do my frozen transfer as I have severe endo and I know it's going to come back between now & then. I dont want it to scupper my treatment like it has done in the past so I can't wait to meet with the Doctor on the 18th and discuss my options. We're off to book our holiday today for the end of May so that's lifted our spirits a wee bit :-) x x

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Hopeful1982

Hello noodles, I'm sorry to hear that it didn't work this time and that you're having an awful time. Take care of yourself.

Best of luck for your FET when the time comes x

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noodles_ in reply to Hopeful1982

Thank you so much Hopeful1982 x x x

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hopeforICSI

Hi noodles, very sorry to know it didn't work this time. I did list one fresh transfer and another 14dp5dt. Both times it's been as awfully sad as words could do justice. But that's the way we learn it's ivf lottery miracle, sometimes you loose to win in future hopefully. I am also waiting for three months waiting time for body to settle down for next round of FET. If you are on NHS, then three months are for every one for normalisation of body and rest of time would be for waiting time whatever patient list suggests on NHS. Hopefully waiting time won't be longer for you excluding 3months time for regular flow of AF. My Thoughts with you as its good to let yourself greive, I felt better only after that, masking hurts me more than that. If you feel low let it come out of you. Fingers crossed for frosty to be with you soon xxx

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noodles_ in reply to hopeforICSI

Thank you hopeforICSI. It really is a roller coaster of emotions but I'm trying to stay strong & remain positive and keep telling myself it's not the end of the road. We have a counselling session booked for 5th May so that will hopefully help us to process all of our thoughts & feelings as my mind is in overdrive at the moment and one minute I'm okay the next I'm in tears. Dont know how I would've coped without this forum I tell you. Good luck with your journey x x

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Hopeful1982 in reply to noodles_

I went for counselling a few months ago. I needed a few sessions but it really has helped x

Omg noodles am so sorry to hear that news.... It's so unfair take time to get yourself together, grieve, laugh, scream, shout just don't bottle it up.

I wish you best in next turn xxx

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noodles_ in reply to

Aw good advice... Thank you Tamtam1 x x x

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herrys

Sorry to read this noodles thinking of you xx

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noodles_ in reply to herrys

Aw thank you herrys x x x

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hopeforICSI

Thinking of you again noodles, you did well to decide for counselling as I also met and finding someone listening you, understanding where you are coming from did great great to keep me on track.

you are not alone! that helps noodles!

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Cal79

Sorry to hear your sad news hun - keep hold if that hope, having a frozen embie is a big positive - wishing u lots of luck for the future πŸ€ x

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noodles_ in reply to Cal79

Thank you so much Cal79 πŸ’š x x

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pm27

Really sorry to hear this cycle didn't work. I had to have several months between cycles due to other things but it was probably for the best.

Great to hear you've got a frostie, FET sounds much simpler.

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noodles_ in reply to pm27

Aw thanks pm27 πŸ’š x x

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