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Diabetes as a epidemic

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Who decides the parameters of fbs/ppbs ?WHO.....and which has bosses of all multi national formaceuticals.In 50's fbs of 180 was the standard.Now they have set 110 as fbs.Suddenly millions of people became diabetic and those forma companies minted billions,at the cost of innocent people,by scaring them of diabetes.

Just avoid processed sugar and sweets made from it,eat a balanced and healthy food,be happy and if required take natural medicines,live a active life.

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Yes good question,who decide blood test number So? People are scared of complications!!!!

Not every one in developing world or Asian developed world has access to balanced diet! Some people are unable to get basic food. Today I spoke to a friend in Sri Lanka. Heavy rain , unable to go to work for daily pay and no money for food for the family.

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nyonyo

Who decided fbs 180 was standard in 50's? Regardless of the number set by anybody, i feel terrible when my fbs goes above 125

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It's NOT about being forced to take medicine or not, but imho fbs 180 is way too high, even 140, and i don't think WHO or endocrinologists decided the standard, they just discovered what should be the limit of fbs

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kamtadale in reply tonyonyo

Not endocrinologist but big boss of pharmaceutical companies sir,and this has been revealed by none other than American doctors who visited India.

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nyonyo in reply tokamtadale

How did you know that? If that's true, i agree and support the big pharma standard, because that suits me 100%, FYI for me 180 is the limit i personally set for 2hrpp, and even by strictly following the big pharma standard i never be able to get my HbA1c below 6....or the HbA1c standard also set by the big pharma companies? Again If that is the case, i also agree with their standard, because i still feel peripheral neuropathy above 6

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kamtadale in reply tonyonyo

And the funny thing is those same people want hbA1c to be 8.5 as standard which translate 250 as ppbs and none other than our INDIAN doctors are protesting it,fearing half of their diabetics will be out of their clutches.

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nyonyo in reply tokamtadale

Ehm....not only INDIAN doctors i think, but other doctors all over the world will be protesting as well, because they just follow the HbA1c standard established by WHO wich is 6.5%

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You are entitled to your views

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nyonyo in reply tokamtadale

And you are entitled to your views too

Even God Brahma can not change some biased views .

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Yes, yes and million times yes, no matter how biased your views, even God Brahma can not change your views

But it is strange to see the way the reactions are going . Let a single person come forward and say whether the prescriptions have made them to reverse their malady .Even insulin shots are not showing any reversal . Why can't they see the white lies propagated by MEDICAL FRATERNITY . j

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What is the reaction that you find strange? When i was diagnosed with T2D my fbs was 297, ppbs 546 and HbA1c 12.7, doctor prescribed insulin and within 5 days my fbs was 117 and 2hr ppbs was 127, in the next 3 months my HbA1c was 6.7, i do solemnly swear that i tell the truth and nothing but the truth, and many senior members here also use insulin and they are satisfied with the results, you can ask them yourself

Now it's you turn to tell the truth and show the proof that insulin doesn't work, accusing without showing any single proof is not a wise and smart thing to do, on the other hand it could have very serious legal consequences

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when diabetes is diagnosed first time and insulin levels are high or in case of type 1 diabetes , insulin can be used . to arrest complications like retinal nerve damage , peripheral nerve damage or damage of nerves in brain But once the levels become normal , in type2 , it is better to put the levels under control by life style changes and herbal cure .If any body wants to take any legal action for giving this advice they are free to do so .Then again there is no compulsion to heed this advice .It is in the interest of those who want to get rid of the menace with out spending a single paisa .Lifestyle changes with herbs not only reduce sugar levels , but also reduce the levels of BP , cholesterol and Arthritis . AT 60s and 70s also I have seen people healthy with out any of those problems with all the parameters normal with the above mentioned care . In any case there is no need to react so rudely . It is not nice . Insulin is like instant food . A person who is very hungry takes instant food to appease the hunger . But it is not nutritious for regular intake . So is the case of insulin . It can tide over the emergency and regular intake is not healthy .

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You are correctWhen I was diagnosed in 1998,fbs 340 and ppbs 480,my physician who is MBBS,did not prescribe any western medicines,instead he gave me Diabecon by Himalaya which is pure Ayurvedic tab and suggested some changes in food,and in just 20 days ppbs came down below 200.Since then it has been 20 years,I have not taken any western medicines and having HbA1c 6.4 now with fbs 120 and ppbs 150.Insulin and other medications are given for fast results to impress the patients.

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This is a perfect example of biased view, first he said "insulin shots are not showing reversal" and "Why can't they see the white lies propagated by MEDICAL FRATERNITY" which he can not absolutely show the proof,

After can not provide any proof to his accusation he changed his statement by saying "it is better to put the levels under control by life style changes and herbal cure" and If any body wants to take any legal action for giving this advice they are free to do so, haha.😃...this is very funny 😀😄😁

"It is in the interest of those who want to get rid of the menace with out spending a single paisa" in most countries diabetic diabetics can get free insulins on HI😊

"In any case there is no need to react so rudely"

So telling the truth is rude?, but accusing others "can't see the white lies propagated by MEDICAL FRATERNITY" is nice???....mppppffhhhhh.....🤭🤭🤭 there is no need for me to argue with someone who can't see in the mirror

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I SAID IN THE INITIAL PERIOD THEY CAN REDUCE SUGAR LEVELS BY TAKING INSULIN But when once the levels come down they can go for alternative medicine .. They can take herbs and go for life style changes . Insulin is very effective only in the initial stages . Later it may see that the levels are maintained . But in the long run it does not effectively work in reversing the diabetes I have always been insisting that in medical crisis and medical emergencies modern medicine gives quick relief . But it does not give permanent relief . Now many diseases have become drug resistant and bacterial resistant . Many cases are reported to be deaths by over drugging or unnecessary use of antibiotics . But for everything there is an exception and generalisation does not apply in all cases . Where any disease is caused by bacteria , virus , or microbes or any emergency is faced by accidents , injuries or hurts modern medicine gives immediate results . But it is not so effective where the problem slowly creeps in to the body over a period of time and is the result of sheer negligence and misuse of the body . Argument for argument's sake does not lead us any where . Any way my postings are for those who have met utter failure in the cure by modern medicine .and who cannot meet the prohibitive cost of modern medicine . No body is forcing any one . Neither people are so ignorant or innocent to get carried away by any net info . Let them first verify the facts and decide for themselves . In the meanwhile all those who think that these messages are misleading can take legal action . Any statement is subject to certain exceptions & conditions . Even while starting any operation or treatment doctors from medical fraternity take a permission from the patient or kith and kin. The same way there are certain rules and regulations for going for alternate medicine . Who is forcing here ? If any one wants to go for better options , they can always go for that . Alternative medicine like homeopathy does not have side effects .

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