Are the Beta Blockers cause of Diabetis?

[vyas123]

Betablockers like Atenolol are used for Hypertension. Are they the cause of destroying the beta cells of pancreas? Is diabetes caused due to that effect? Prolonged use of betablockers is known to cause diabetes. If that medicine is meant for destroying the betacells to block their function to reduce BP, is it not the main cause of diabetes? If so, how has it been approved for treating BP?

[MikePollard]

No!

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Atenol is an Beta blocker used to reduce the HNP of the person

1 Whether if taken the blood sugar level may spike ? or long using this tablet beta cells may be damages ?

2 You are taken now the tablets is Cilacar. ? It is not Beta blocker and it is Cacium channel blocker. Please share your expert opinion about these two may be taken good to control HBP ? this ay be not spike the blood sugar level for longer use

3 the combination of Cilica and Atenol may not found in market. It may be available in Amlodipine and Atenol combination only ?

4 Why you are taken Cilacar tablets your Bp is higher range . As per Doctors advise above age of 6o years upto 150/90 no tablets required .

Please share in detail.

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Agrhar

For older people calcium channel blockers are preferred as they respond to this preparation well compared to other drugs

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Hidden I know something about medicines. Calcium channel blocker and ACE inhabitor tablets is good for age more than 55 years of persons.

But Doctor most of the time prescribed combination of Atenol + Amlodipine tablets generally Amlopress AT 50/5 or 25/ 5 and Amlong A 50/5 one time or two times and Cardace or temosartin contnent.

My important question is Atenol may be more side effect for aged persons and also it may having side effect and may problem for blood sugar spikes.

Doctors information need not worry about dosage of Atenol within 50 g per day

What is your opinion about this ? and also which tablet is good for alternative of Atenol

Thanks for respond and given good tips

[cure Administrator in reply to Hidden]

Calcium channels are also useful for insulin secretion???

[Hidden in reply to cure]

I am not known detail about this For this question @Shashikanthiyengar and @Anup are able persons to answer.

My opinion all HBP control tablets may negative effect for diabetic person but no alternative way they may taken if BPis higher range. But also Doctor prescribed BP tablets for diabetic person whose range is above 150/90only below they not given prescription and says tocontrol with diet only.

any other xperts may share in detail.

[cure Administrator in reply to Hidden]

mine is 85/130 still I am on sartel 20

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So In my opinion yourare not necessary for tables for BP. More than age 55 and with diabetic no tablets required. However you are within 140/90 so it is good as age more than 50

You may try to skip pne week tablets and check your BP after one weak. If it increases above 150/90 you may take tablets. This is my opinion. Please think about this.

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

Atenolol is or was widely used in our country

But some reports emerged that it causes Sudden death in some pts, disturbs diabetes by affecting the insulin resistance, masking the symptoms of hypo etc

Safer alternative is Nebivolol which is safe in asthmatics, appears to have +ve ot at least neutral effect on insulin resistance and does not cause any sexual dysfunction in young pts unlike other beta blockers. This is due to its nitric oxide donor property

Issue is this belongs to a small company in USA which does not use big muscle power to push it

So it's a low profile but good beta blocker. Not many trials are available.

But it's a good and promising beta blocker unlike other ones

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Thanks for respond but neibvolol not available in medical stores . what the tablet name which may available in medical stores? Is ACE inhabitor tablets is good may be used instead of Atenol

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

Any change only under guidance of Dr.

Please don't change yourself

Brands: Nebicard, Nebistar, Nebi, Nubeta, nodon etc

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

Thanks for Respond I am not taken BP tablets now at a time and my BP is now 126/70 so it is so in good position.

But for precautionary if possible and also for knowledge and help others my neighbourer friends I want to learn from expert persons like you. thanks for good information.

[cure Administrator in reply to Hidden]

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/162...

Effects of protein, monounsaturated fat, and carbohydrate intake on blood pressure and serum lipids: results of the OmniHeart randomized trial.

RESULTS:

Blood pressure, low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, and estimated coronary heart disease risk were lower on each diet compared with baseline. Compared with the carbohydrate diet, the protein diet further decreased mean systolic blood pressure by 1.4 mm Hg (P = .002) and by 3.5 mm Hg (P = .006) among those with hypertension and decreased low-density lipoprotein cholesterol by 3.3 mg/dL (0.09 mmol/L; P = .01), high-density lipoprotein cholesterol by 1.3 mg/dL (0.03 mmol/L; P = .02), and triglycerides by 15.7 mg/dL (0.18 mmol/L; P<.001). Compared with the carbohydrate diet, the unsaturated fat diet decreased systolic blood pressure by 1.3 mm Hg (P = .005) and by 2.9 mm Hg among those with hypertension (P = .02), had no significant effect on low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, increased high-density lipoprotein cholesterol by 1.1 mg/dL (0.03 mmol/L; P = .03), and lowered triglycerides by 9.6 mg/dL (0.11 mmol/L; P = .02). Compared with the carbohydrate diet, estimated 10-year coronary heart disease risk was lower and similar on the protein and unsaturated fat diets.

CONCLUSION:

In the setting of a healthful diet, partial substitution of carbohydrate with either protein or monounsaturated fat can further lower blood pressure, improve lipid levels, and reduce estimated cardiovascular risk.

[cure Administrator]

diabetesselfmanagement.com/...

Beta-blockers are the other major class of blood-pressure-lowering drugs that have been implicated in causing diabetes or worsening diabetes control. The several large studies that have looked at the risk of diabetes associated with beta-blockers include the Nurses Health Studies I and II and the ongoing ARIC (Atherosclerosis Risk in Communities) study. In these two studies, the risk of developing diabetes in people originally without it who took beta-blockers was approximately 20% to 28% greater than in those who did not take beta-blockers.

This may seem counterintuitive since people with diabetes are often warned that beta-blockers can cause problems with low blood glucose, not high blood glucose. Beta-blockers cause these two problems in distinct ways. First, they may harm a person’s ability to recognize and respond to low blood glucose, mainly by keeping the heart rate slow, which can dampen symptoms of hypoglycemia. They may also inhibit the release of glucose from the liver. But beta-blockers also block the release of insulin by interacting with nerve signals to the pancreas and can thus lower insulin levels even when blood glucose is high.

[Hidden in reply to cure]

@Cure and Hidden good information.

1 As per this article Beta blockers may not raise the blood glucose level and only chances of hypo ?

2 this may be the reason Doctors alwasy prescribed combination of Atenol and Amlodipiine calciul channel and Beta blockers

3 If beta blockers have chances of more hypo what is the alternative for Atenol tablets.

4 recently most of Doctors not recomonded Beta blocker tablets only Amlodipine and temasartin or Ramipril tablets preferred

What is your opinion about these things

[cure Administrator in reply to Hidden]

well Hidden there are some reports which says that taking BP pills at bed time is not good.... as if your BP falls....your brain considers this as imergency and signals liver to release sugar....so they may increase FBS

[shrisamarth Volunteer]

best teacher. College or university.

This is not college or university site so you shouldn't be here.

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O K your Doctor changed the drug envas to clicar. So your are

HBP more than 160/95 Please take care of your health. Donot taken too tension. You are already a good expert by studing medical outlook and inlook also. i amnot able to guide as your knowledge is excllant you know all thing. I prayto god give you good health and your services to this forum is necessary most of them learn from you too kuch.

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Indiacatus what is your statement of posting i can not understand. What purposes you have used the word Agraharm is cluster of peoples lived. By the mean your opinion is Agaharm living peoples not educated? and they are poor itself ?

it is a proper Name word it has no meaning do you know the English Grammer ? Proper name has not found for meaning.

BTw i am asking and given some name of foreign countries can you give the meaning

1 India cratus what is actual meaning

2 Glad Stone small this is Cricket player name what its meaning can you explain.

3 Similarly so much cricket player names or Old Rice kettle Steve and so etc on.

As a friendly i am asking your health interest only. but why you take it as serious and insult me.

Your are aged 70 + so do not insult others in these silly activity .

I now also appreciate your knowledge in medical professionals and you may utilize it in good manner.

BTW Agrahar is my fore parents lived one village it has all pure Brahman community and they do Veda and other religious activity I am coming from that of good and boldand helping others community.

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Well said

[cure Administrator in reply to Hidden]

kamat.com/kalranga/edu/agra...

Agraharas became the foremost educational institutions in southern India during the medieval period. They were group settlements of brahmins who formed a corporate body and administered all affairs of the agrahara, including education. The earliest agrahara in medieval Karnataka appears to be that of Talagunda or Sthanakundur (in present day Shimoga district). An inscription mentions that the ancestor of Mayurasharman (or Varman), the founder of the Kadamba dynasty, brought thirty-two learned brahmins from Ahichchatra and settled them in Sthanakundur, turning it into an agrahara (350 CE.). This shows that kings promoted learning by inviting scholars from outside, and this practice continued in later centuries. It is said that Mayurasharman granted 144 villages to the support of the agrahara.

Further details of this agrahara are available in an inscription from 1150 C.E. indicating that Talagunda continued as a famous center of education for eight centuries. There were forty-eight students and eight teachers of different subjects, such as the vedas, vedanta, prosody, rupavatara (grammar) and prabhakara (philosophy). Besides, there were arrangements to teach Kannada at the primary level (Kannadaksharashikshe). Provision was made for clothing (sire, or saree) for the teachers, students and the temple staff, and there were cooks who cooked food for all inmates.

[cure Administrator in reply to Hidden]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrah...

अग्रहारम या 'अग्रहार' (तमिल : அக்கிறஹாரம்; तेलुगु : అగ్రహారం) उस ग्राम को कहते हैं जिसके वासी पूर्णतः ब्राह्मण हों। विभिन्न जाति वाले गावों के उस भाग को भी अग्रहारम कहते हैं जिसमें ब्राह्मण रहते हैं। बहुत समय पहले इन्हें 'चतुर्वेदीमंगलम' भी कहा जाता था।

[cure Administrator in reply to cure]

the other meaning of अग्रहार is first right given to Bramhins...

bharatkhoj.org/india/%E0%A4...

मैं उन सब वेद पाठी ब्राह्मणों को अग्रहार ( बलिवैश्‍वदेवके अन्‍त में अतिथिको दिये जाने वाले प्रथम अन्‍न ) का अर्पण करके भोजन, वस्‍त्र और जलके द्वारा उनकी यथा योग्‍य पूजा करती थी ।

Said word appeared in Mahabhrata many times...

[Hidden in reply to cure]

cure and @Indiacratus good information from 3 comments. Thanks a lot. BTW i am Agahar may be came from same family history but my Agrahar is in Hassan District CR PatnaTaluk

As your comments shows mostly good information. Hidden may read and understanding what is Af

graharam and what was his in mind

Please are you have any data for the name

India acratus ? any google or olden history shows any detail. Please inform if available Indiactratus also know what its meaning ?

[shahzam]

my wife uses Atenolol since from 31 years. There are no any indications of diabetes. She does every year blood tests and even HBA1C.