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Coconut oil, with around 90% of calories from saturated fat, 65% of which are MCTs, has been lauded as an ideal fat for cooking, ketosis, and prevention of metabolic and cardiovascular diseases. So we’re not saying coconut oil is unhealthy – just that it may be overhyped, and is too often recommended without simultaneous recommendations to eat your friggin’ vegetables.
I always say, moderation in everything...u cannot overdo anything....be it carbs, fats or proteins. Eating little less would serve the purpose with mindful eating and proper choice of foods with lot of fiber. High fat diet lack fiber which is a doom for our gut and metabolism too. I read whole article for which link is posted above and it made me realize how excess fat (MCT or butter or whatever good fat) or fiber-less food can prove disastrous to our health! Eating more vegetables can be beneficial in any disease.
@Ashka9
yes. We have to supplement fibres. I'm on grain free diet for last 2 odd months and my worry was my gut health. But i added flax seeds ( powder and seeds), isabgul and salads in my diet. Esp flax seed powder twice daily and seeds post meals twice daily. Also dry fruits and of course vegetables and legumes and sprouts. Oh. There are lots of fibres esp for veg people. Keeps away from constipation and gives lots of vitamins and antioxidants.
suramo one more thing....constipation is problem faced by many when they shift on low carbs...and problem they associate with fiber contents of food....
But guess what??? the best remedy for this is very simple.... just add two spoons of ghee in hot water gto drink the same before going to bed at night....so guess its not fiber but gut movement i guess....
cure
Ashka9
@Anup
Constipation has two aspects. One related to bulk formation and the other related to intestinal / bowel movement. There are two types of medicines. Laxative and purgative. The first class of medicines makes the stool movable e.g ghee as cure suggested but many need a little purge also. The purgatives irritate the bowels and make them move. We may have to take both like isapgul and haritaki. High potency purgatives like castor oil or abhyadi modak - nepalo should be avoided as they make bowels weak after their prolonged use.
Also we take in lots of veggies
Permitted in LC••
Hidden it is most wonderful to add shredded coconut on vegetables....it enhances the taste ..also beneficial...
We do it
South Indian style
My favorite
Gues that is the best way to consume coconut Hidden
That's the purpose of coconut chutney and peanut chutney
Hidden fats along with carby snacks / BF
Hidden
I think isn't it better to add shreded coconut meat on cooked vegetables like what south Indians do....
Our ancestors were wise in doing so....
Forget what others say....but guess you tried keto many times...I really never understood what was the purpose...
@anup 100 Gms of Carbs...or below the threshold of Liver???
and what about beta cells function??/ @anup like suramo his beta cells are just 27% ...is he sllowed to consume 100 Gms carbs??
or like @jingle ...guess he is almost 100% beta cells... just have some IR issue.
So what does this means??? IR is more important to decide how many carbs to be consumed?? 
cure
Abhi aapne nabj pakad li. Yes. That is what i have been saying. First know IR and bcf and then decide if to go grain free or 30-50 -100 g carbs. The people like me have to be grain free for whole life.
hmmm suramo bhai.... well I am also curios if you can do your fasting insulin test once you reach below 100 FBS once again...
Then we can make calculations for BCF and IR once again.... let us see if they show you 27% BCF at that time even....
My guess is that they will show you more BCF ....
cure
No. Bcf doesn't change but IR.
ok...may be....let us check and then say....
cure
Shashi has still high ir of 1.69.
@Anup
Can you give us his bcf if he -shashi doesn't mind.
IR is 0.94
BCF is 87.20
Hidden
HOMA IR = fasting insulin (mU/l) * fasting glucose (mmol/l) / 22,5
Healthy Range: 1.0 (0.5–1.4)
Less than 1.0 means you are insulin-sensitive which is optimal.
Above 1.9 indicates early insulin resistance.
Above 2.9 indicates significant insulin resistance.
so your ir = 92x 7.2/ 405= 1.64 1mmol= 18.5 g
if you have any other method of calculation please let me know. For bcf anup has the software.
suramo
Pl see the BCF one year back & now
Posted in my Thread in other forum by geodiabetic
How???? how to get TG down???do u suggest to go for some herbs like curcuma amada???
hmmmm but we have some range limit for carbs....we can not go below that limit...and can not go above that....
so what is way out???
hmmm yar tumhari bat aur hai @anup bhai...tum kutch bhi kar sakate ho....
But ham jaise budhe log kya karenge??/
Ab ye umar mein daudaoge kya??/
Anup
yaar why have we to look to west when we ourselves now know more. You and i can testify that. This is what i have always been telling that anybody can write anything on net. Even paid articles. Yes these companies have to hire "experts " to run their business. Legally compulsary. Now they are doctors or a pharmacy graduate. These gyus have to write what their masters say. Let's all trust ourselves rather than fake studies and studies on animals. Many times such studies cover only one aspect beneficial to those who sponsor them.
hmmm..1.69 is high IR???
OMG I had 3.4 IR when got diagnosed....LOL
at my last check up....HDL was 48 and TG were 75...
So guess 1.56???
means in other words bring down TG???
thank u @anup
I am really happy for suramo ...he was always sad about his BCF.... I am sure at next check he will show more BCF.....
For Hidden 4.8....I was sure.... he is determined... and also ready to take benefits of every thing available....being south indian (rice based diet) I can just imagine his determination to avoid rice...
he is really a wonderful example...
I am sure soon @suramo will also be member of your prestigious club of 5+
Hey float one more club...4+ club... 
lol...kya bhai... atireki kahlaoge kya??
अतिरेकी =extremists
that Godse follower was best I think....
hmmm but he made mistake by killing Gandhi....
agar nahi kill karta toh aaj gandhi ki halat anna hazare jaisi hoti....
@Cure
Planting nehru as PM against the decision of all 12 congress committee present at that time was the first corruption of independent india. But nobody can speak even today. Was the person who did this under some kind of commitment ? And planting an ineligible incompetent person has created many grave problems for this country. We lost 1/3 kashmir and 62000 sq km of land called Aksai chin. Who should be considered responsible for these losses in addition to hundreds and thousands of lives lost and there is no count to how much money we have lost.
may be he was busy in nauakhali.....
in India...any one can say anything....freedom of speech....
@Cure
@anup
sorry friends. Posting my results again.
Fbs 169
fasting insulin 6.9
A1c 8.61= 198 bs.
S. Chol 151
S trigly 119
Hdl 50
ldl 77.7
Vldl 24
Cho/ hdl 3.02
Ldl/ hdl 1.55
red saree?? wo kya hai??
and @anup Bhai his FBS is 107 now....fasting insulin may be same or more... we don't know.....
oh...she is lady in white saree now days.... don't know uske maike mein wo kya pahanti hai....idhar india mein toh bechari ko white saree hi pahani padti hai....
Poor lady...kaha fas gayi hai bechari... 
hahaha anup bhai so his BCF are working again.....
kya yar... tum bechari ko aise bolte ho.... she is so masum.....bechari widow hai....uske piche pade ho...
kitni muskilo se ye India mein rahati hai.... koi yaha uska apana nahi hai.... fir bhi tum Indian logo ke liye she is showing path of development..
hmmmm....let us see on his next check up....
kya yar... tum bechari ko aise bolte ho.... she is so masum.....bechari widow hai....uske piche pade ho...
kitni muskilo se ye India mein rahati hai.... koi yaha uska apana nahi hai.... fir bhi tum Indian logo ke liye she is showing path of development..
Anup
let's wait for a month or so. I will get all my reports done. You can suggest me all the reports that i should get done. We will learn from that if bcf improves or with reduction in fbs insulin too reduces.
cure
Hidden
@Anup
Sorry if i may sound sadistic and pessimistic but i would like to analyze the results of shashi. Please forgive me if i seem to be hurting your feelings.
1) IR is 1.64. good but not the best.
2)S chol 206
3)ldl 150.
4)Hdl 36
I'm not happy. Shashi's lipid profile is not satisfactory. IR also high. Need further caution.
Sorry shashi if i have discussed your reports on this forum which perhaps your would not have wanted. 🙏🙏🙏
suramo bhai....
we ppl always forget most important organ of our body....and that is liver....
we always just look total cholesterol and LDL....
look at his SGPT and SGOT numbers along with BUN numbers... they are just fantastic...
Liver will take care of lipids..if it is functioning properly....
And from his reports his liver is wonderful.
To me his good numbers are correlated to his good number for liver function test.
Anup
my lipid profile has always been good. Perhaps good genes from mother. Her angiography at the age of 82 showed very clean vessels. Not even 1% blockade of coronaries.
@anup bhai
Just went to the thread on other site...
there is c peptide test suggested for diabetics... I guess c peptide test is useful ony for type1. For type one those are not on insulin shots..you can suggest .c peptide or Direct fasting insulin any test (which one is cheaper)
HAHAHA....now it is my time to rejoice....
so it means either HOMA2 calculations are wrong.....
or lost BCF is myth.....
look at Geodiabetic his BCF function is improved....
I don't think other than this forum any one else on any other forum noticed this....
? Not understood
see Hidden it was discussion between me and anup few days earlier...and he was telling that BCF is lost means lost forever...
I said there is lot more to be proved in this regards....
Now since we can see BCF is improved in ur case an in case of geodiabetic....we can say beta cells are just sleeping....
isn't this a great thing for us???
So suramo has hope as his BCF is low
Anyway sometime back in one of the thread there I was debating on the same thing
BCF by HOMA us just a calculation and does not give the picture of beta cell mass functioning
So possible that the existing ones are rejuvenated
Also to inform u I also taking one teaspoon of black seed oil for last 9 months
And vijaysar tumbler once a day (as it was lying with me unused for long) after u reminded me
But the insulin fasting levels are same
So possible that the rejuvenation is due to low carb diet putting less load on the beta cells for last 9-10 months after shifting to LC** diet
whatever Hidden but you are gaining your lost BCF is just most wonderful thing than your lower Hba1c.....
what factors contributed to that is different question....there are many factors....
But for me that is most wonderful thing....
for me...i am not at all against Homepathy herbs keto or that matter Auto urine.... and cow urine...
marata kya na karta??
For me cure is important.....(anup may be cure is possible)
come on suramo bhai dance now.....u are no more BCF with 27%......
Whenever he use to mention that...I use to feel so sad....
sure...@anup more needed.... but sure...there is something... 
Planning to get a sono done for fatty liver. After a year of last test confirming grade 1 fatty liver
Will be interesting
That reference u attached there says with this low it's likely that no alcohol may have been taken
But before D I used to have once a month at least
Neat whiskey 3_4 large in one sitting
abhi yar anup ye ADA kaha se aya?? 
why don't u f (forget) ADA....
also I suggest you instead of looking for experiments done outside....let us have our own experience....
That is more reliable.....
ye lo.....abhi BCF se first phase insulin response??
kya yar @anup bhai??
We all agree LC is key....but treasure is still hidden somewhere else.....
are bhai @anup kya tum bhool gaye?? ham 'kafar' hai....
let us forget that false god.... worship truth....
Ek Omkar satnam......
In other words.....@anup a diabetic should give more rest to beta cells....
and concentrate on fatty liver...
you have all potential to get better numbers.... and only one medicine for that....
let ADA die its own fate.... and just live life outside forum....and u will get better numbers
hahahaha...@anup bhai....
truth is that....you gave me some hope...and I started my work on line given by you....
You are most studied person in this forum about diabetes....
and I really respect you....
But let ADA and ADA supporter die their own fate.... let us care our health....
There are many brahmagyani....many hippos...but why care for them???
I even don't trust sites quoted by u....
I trust my own brain...my own experience....i try to develop my own logic....
Thank u anup u gave me wonderful line of thinking
I will be now shifting to lysine+proline in place of plain lysine. Also vit c will step up from 500mg
Hidden plz suggest me good multivit....since you are from medical field you will be the right person...
Will get back
But I believe that cobadex czs is good for us
Has b complex. Chromium. Selenium. Zinc.
However I don't take these as I believe dietary intake of vitamins should be good enough for us excp a few ones where we need them externally
hmmm true....but with we can not measure what is our intake....
isn't it better to take additional... cause anyways extra will be exerted to produce so called costly urine....
How far these are really absorbed is a question mark
Need not measure
Just take varied food
yes that is best approach...being carnivorous i have more options...lol
in Ayurveda they give trivanga bhasma as supplement...but some how I am not convinced....
I trust more on herbs... rather than Ras shastra and Bhasmas...
here Hidden
vitamincfoundation.org/foru...
Pauling's Biography
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Post Number:#5 Post by ofonorow » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:36 am
From Linus Pauling in His Own Words (edited by Barbara Marrinachi) we learn that Pauling contracted a (usually fatal) kidney disease when he was forty, but after learning that most patients died from the standard treatment (then high protein) he huddled with a Stanford Professor/MD and developed a different therapy (low protein). He survived, but his wife began giving him a multivitamin pill daily. It wasn't until age 60 that he learned the value of high-dose vitamin C, and as other posters have noted, went on to live 30+ more years.
Also, if you read the latest Hickey/Roberts book (CANCER: Nutrition and Survival lulu.com/ascorbate), and our cancer forum, you learn that while vitamin C can be toxic to cancer cells, it is a relatively weak cancer killer. High blood concentrations must be maintained, and adding Alpha Lipoic Acid (and/or VItamin K3) greatly amplifies vitamin C's cancer killing power.
Owen R. Fonorow, Orthomolecular Naturopath
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suramo
askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/ind... of structure parameters is based on a fasting plasma sample, and it is derived by use of the insulin-glucose product, divided by a constant: (assuming normal-weight, normal subjects < 35 years, having 100% β-cell function an insulin resistance of 1)
HOMA-IR = [Glucose] * [Insulin] / 22.5 (Glucose in mmol/l)
HOMA-IR = [Glucose] * [Insulin] / 405 (Glucose in mg/dl)
HOMA-Beta = 20 * [Insulin] / ([Glucose] - 3.5) % (Glucose in mmol/l)
HOMA-Beta = 360 * [Insulin] / ([Glucose] - 63) % (Glucose in mg/dl)
IR is insulin resistance and %β is the β-cell function. Insulin is given in mU/L. Glucose and Insulin are both during fasting.[2]
This model correlated well with estimates using the euglycemic clamp method (r = 0.88).[2]
If your sensitivity is 200% (ie IR is 0.5) and BCF turns out 60% that doesn't mean you have only 60% beta cells left. All it means is that they are working at 60% efficiency because of increased sensitivity.
More confusing @anup why beta cells are working at 60% capacity when BS is still elevated???
I agree BCF just shows the secretion of insulin...
But then...problem is some where else....is it leptin signalling???
anup
you may be right but we can't discard lipid heart theory. Let your B do that. Reason is the people with familial hyperlipidemia. If untreated they die of cvd/ chd in forties and fifties suggesting some connection between lipid and heart. Also don't say it's a different class. We are just talking about the relationship.
We as D produce more ros. So more damage to our body. Blood vessels are feeling more damage because they have to bear the brunt of cardiac pumping. So we require more repair. But the repair should not be exaggerated. Let's believe that we should keep our lipid profile well within the suggested limits until proved otherwise. I see no harm in that. Anup kuchh to hai ye lipid ki theory mein. Also obese people are more prone to get heart attacks and that too heavy. Jains and swaminarayan people don't eat garlic. I have seen the end of their lives in first attack only. Garlic has effect only on ldl both qualitative and quantitative.
@anup Bhai....
just take amala churna instead of triphala...in hot water.... it is best as C vit supplement...and also gives lots of fiber....
Anup
any extra fluid is cleared by kidneys. Triphala is more of a purgative than a bulk forming agent. Only fibres can increase the bulk. Yes extra fat act as laxative.
Well, we all know that coconut oil is also substitute other fats to human. In addition,by giving coconut oil for your dog orally, coconut oil can be applied directly to your dogs coat and skin. See more about the products! amazon.com/Coconut-Oil-Pets...
Traditionally it is said no vegetable fats to fed to the dog....as it will affect his skin and coat...
Further feeding Biotin or biotin supplements gives fantastic results if you want the luster on coat...
A simple remedy: Add mixture of 50% Soya oil and 50% cod liver oil 1/2 tea spoons in dogs food... (depending on size of your dog) will give u shine on coat..
yourolddog.com/flaxseed-for...
Precautions
Using ground flaxseed, oil and capsules are relatively safe, but there are some caveats:
As mentioned earlier, dogs who digest whole flax seeds will likely pass the whole seeds undigested. This renders their nutritional aspects null and void, which is really just a waste. This won’t harm the dog or cause any health concerns, but it’s something to be avoided nevertheless.
Again, dogs don’t easily convert ALA into EPA and DHA which means your dog doesn’t benefit from it, like she would if it were a fish oil.
Anup
your link on cholesterol also shows relationship with cvd and lipids in terms of increased risk with various particle sizes.
Anup
nobody can definitely say what are my chances of having chd/cvd. I never understand the claim made by researchers that with particular drug or therapy the chances of xyz disease reduced by x% . The people get MI even when all the reports are WNL. Firstly there is nothing like normal reports.
Yes probability but for the given value of say ldl or hdl if particle size is small the numbers are going to be high.
That is a very good article by dr attia. That is what i have always been saying that if our medical system gets organized we can know if the inferences made are correct or needs better understanding. We have to believe always in what these people are telling whereas we have large no of patients and our database can be unlimited.
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