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I am suffering from diabetes for the last 3 years. I take Lantus insulin (10 units ) daily, Diamicron XR MEX 500 and Janumet 50/500. Still my blood sugar levels don't come down to normal.

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MikePollard

Imagine this.

You have an out of control fire you are trying to extinguish with a water pistol whilst at the same time you are feeding it with gasoline.

The fire is your diabetes, the gasoline is the carbohydrate that started the fire and the water pistol is your medicine.

If you wish to put out the fire, stop feeding it!

dietdoctor.com/diabetes

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lahari-1997 in reply to MikePollard

What you said is 100% satisfied answer but can you tell us a diet without carbs etc etc.. I am pakka telugu brahmin from Hyderabad Telangana I mean purely vegetarian

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cureAdministrator in reply to MikePollard

Agree to MikePollard ...stop feeding the fire should be your first priority....

But next is looking into the cause of fire... just extinguishing fire will not suffice.

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cureAdministrator

Does that means we should stop even looking around and finding the cause even??

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cureAdministrator

cause of the fire ;)

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cureAdministrator

Leave all of them @anup ji.....

let us look in to the cause...

we have finished first part... we have stopped feeding the fire...

But we are yet miles away from the cause...we have to walk lot to find out the cause of fire...

it will be very misleading if we think we have extiguished the fire...it is still there...waiting for chance...and it will errupt again to kill us...

Extinguishing is just half truth...

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cureAdministrator

exactly....so we have to look answer of other half part some where else...

For which we need to experiemnt more.....

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cureAdministrator

Very true anup ji...as we age we must reduce out intake....once for forget all those USDA and what not....there are many cases whichgot cured of Thyroid problems by listening to advise of BABA RAMDEV....(for which again they say there is no cure)

why restrict just to low carbing??? let us goahead.... look beyond Dr Bernstein, Dr Jay Wortman ...

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@anup your experience with herbs may be mixed.... but that is not situation all over India....Look at Baba Ramdev....he built his big empire on herbs....

If at all his herbs and herbal medicines were not useful ppl must have lost faith on him long back... but situation is different...his company is growing leaps and bounds...

And what do you think about those Pharma companies??? they must have sued him long ago...

now you will find Patanjalee products in each nook and corner of city.... what this success shows???

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cureAdministrator

if you say that Baba Ramdev is cheating.... what those pharma companies are waiting for???

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cureAdministrator

ok just quick search on google about human trials for Gymnema....

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

scielo.br/pdf/bjps/v49n3/v4...

clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show...

Gymnema sylvestre has demonstrated promising effects in the treatment of obesity, dyslipidemia, hypertension, insulin secretion, among others. The above mentioned findings show that Gymnema sylvestre has an excellent potential for the prevention and treatment of metabolic syndrome.

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cureAdministrator

hmmm I am just talking about data and trials taken by various Universities and organization all over the world...

you can search and get enough data about Gymnema...

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cureAdministrator in reply to cure

and that data is suppose to be impartial...not like the company which manufactures and publishing data for the product..

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cureAdministrator

hahaha diet is one part anup bhai... why we are barred to look beyond that???

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cureAdministrator

Bhai look further.... just one more step.... I have no doubt about you.... you can lead every one to further.... you are passionate and you have ability to study.....only thing you need to look further....

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cureAdministrator

Bhai mere diet is first step.... no one will deny.... but what next??? I always ask what is next???

why we are stopping here????

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cureAdministrator

hmmmm anup ji so I requested Hidden to get his fasting insulin...and then start Vijaysar....

but don't worry I will do that soon

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cureAdministrator

भाई मेरे लोगो को छोडो बाहेर कौन क्या कर रहा है... उनके पास इतनी सारी जडी बुटियां नही है ... ना की उनकी समज है ....भाई मेरे तुम वो सब कुछ कर सकते हो... बस थोडी नजर उठा के देखने कि बात है..

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cureAdministrator

did u search for data on Gymnema???

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cureAdministrator

LOL...you can search more information on gymnema....who am I to vouch for Gymnema???

You are more learned in D ....I am not even 10% of you...

I am also searching for right remedy...

But I just suggest you may go for more detailed desk study on same..

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cureAdministrator

Hmm.....well you may try for Vijaysar then..... :)

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cureAdministrator in reply to cure

drwhitaker.com/the-benefits...

How Does Gymnema Sylvestre Extract Work?

The leaves of the Gymnema sylvestre plant contain gymnemic acids, which have been shown to slow the transport of glucose from the intestines to the bloodstream. This, in turn, helps to:

Lower blood sugar

Lower hemoglobin A1c

Some research also suggests that gymnema sylvestre extract can help repair and regenerate the beta cells in the pancreas that produce insulin.

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cureAdministrator in reply to cure

wo dekh.... it all started when u said no available data on Gymnema....

Now we are getting data...:)

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cureAdministrator

have you ever tried Vijaysar???

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cureAdministrator in reply to cure

well nothing happened....wrt...we need to go bit scientifically....we need to check fating insulin....IR first before starting trial.... then again chck both at end of trial....then only we can say something....

without that how can we conclude???

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cureAdministrator

Bhai mere....Gymnema is wild herb....we can get it at cheap rate....

Here...anupbhai....you have all ability to go for trials... and fix the dose.....

there are these two herbs....gymnema and Vijaysar...they must be helpful...

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cureAdministrator

Sure bhai....bas apke piche piche hai hum....

tun GURU ham chele.....

bas tum macchindranath na bano...

do you know story of Macchindra nath and Gorakhnath???

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cureAdministrator

Dekho macchindra nath ji ka description kitna tum se milta hai....

Matsyendranātha, Macchindranāth or Mīnanātha (Newari Buṅga Dyaḥ, c. early 10th century) was a saint and yogi in a number of Buddhist and Hindu traditions. He is traditionally considered the founder of hatha yoga as well as the author of some of its earliest texts. He is also seen as the founder of the natha sampradaya, having received the teachings from Shiva.[3] He is especially associated with kaula shaivism.[4] He is also one of the eighty-four mahasiddhas and considered the guru of Gorakshanath, another important figure in early hatha yoga. He is revered by both Hindus and Buddhists, and is sometimes regarded as an incarnation of Avalokiteśvara.

1. Founder of LCHF/Hath yoga....

2. Founder of nath samraday(founder of India LCHF and Dlife) :d

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cureAdministrator

LOL may be Ghilani wanted to teach them benefits of intermittent fasting :d

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cureAdministrator

VCO is very costly.... and Pakistan dosn't have source...so he couldn't get it free of cost :P

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