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Berberin HCL is better than Metformin and may be subsituted for insulin.
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Very interesting article. Really needs a fair trial.
Interesting . In homeopathy '' Beriberi vulgaris '' is used in urinary infection. Could there be any connection between the two . Beriberis vulgaris gives very good results even in severe and acute cases also .
Iqbalahmet• in reply to
It is the same and I `ll surely try it for my type 2 cure , optimistically hopeful. because I found the other homeopathic remedies very effectice in this regard.
cureAdministrator
Berberis aristata/Daru haridra is well known herb in Ayurveda....And same is avilable in India easily at very cheaper rate.
You may read more info here...
easyayurveda.com/2012/08/30...
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@anup
It's the same as mentioned by @cure
Daru harida or tree turmeric or as in tamil mara manjal
Purified form is berberine
This was in the tablets I was taking and now stopped. You know it
My elders recommend this to Me when I was diagnosed
phani58• in reply to
Sir, Can you indicate the name of tablet. Thanx
• in reply tophani58
BGR34
tejkumar• in reply to
if its BGR34, I'm apprehensive; we've had bad reports about this tablet; am I correct? overall, it didn't work, or does it? could contributors pls highlight on effectiveness; thnx in advance,
• in reply totejkumar
I think the thread is taking us to a wrong turn.
BGR34 just came into discussion and not being recommended.
Please don't go for it
We don't know the long term effects on various organs of our system
IT"S NOT BEING RECOMMENDED.
Just came into discussion & many have tried & stopped it including me & we should prefer diet control method.
Durham24• in reply to
Thanks Mr Shashi.
If Berberine is same as turmeric, what way this is different than "Raw turmeric powder"?
If I take some turmeric powder along with milk before bed time, will it have the same effect of Berberine. (Just a layman's question)
Thanks for all valuable inputs.
Rgds
• in reply toDurham24
No
Both are different
But you can add up turmeric milk at night
How I take:
1/2 glass full fat milk with malai. Add 1-2 teaspoon haldi powder. Add a teaspoon of ghee. Also some sprinkling of pepper powder. Heat all and take it
Highly beneficial
Durham24• in reply to
Thanks Sir.
I will add this turmeric (with milk) to my routine.
I guess the plant (berberine) itself varies from regular Turmeric plant.
Rgds
• in reply toDurham24
Yes
It's different
Don't know if it's related
Maybe @cure can respond on this
our regular haldi is curcumin longa ....ambe halad is curcuma amada.
The effective chemical in haldi is called curcumin .
Haldi is procured from rhizome of the plant.
You may read here..
examine.com/supplements/cur...
Further as Hidden suggested fats and black pepper increases bioavailability of curcumin by many folds.
Daru haldi is berberis aristata....
The root bark contains berberine, quaternary ammonium salt of isoquinoline alkaloid. Berberine has antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral and antioxidant properties.[citation needed] It can possess anti-inflammatory, anti-tumor and anti-diabetic activities.[8] A women’s university in India, Shri Padmavathi Mahila Viswavidyalayam Tirupati, conducted a study to evaluate the effectiveness of ayurvedic medicine. They designed a study to provide scientific evidence for the use of Berberis aristata in the treatment of urinary troubles caused as a side effect of the anti-cancer chemotherapy drug, cisplatin. Cisplatin is known to cause nephrotoxicity which is a renal disease or dysfunction. In conclusion, the researchers found that the side effects of cisplatin were reversed by the antioxidant properties of the decoction of root bark of Berberis aristata.[9]
you may read more here...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbe...
as it was suggested to suramo best way to consume curcuma species....through out the year...pickle them in season...when it is available at cheap rate..
Oil in pickle increases bio availability of curcumin .
These both are all together different plants....no similarity...
Confusion is made only because both are called haldi/haridra...
But botanical names are different..not even same genus.
There is same confusion about kalounjee...many ppl think its seed of onion ......
but absolutely no connection between both...
As botanical name of kalounjee is nigella sativa.
Where as botanical name of Onion is allium cepa.
Both are different plants all together...
And funny part.... botanical name of garlic is Allium Sativum.....combining both plants
But no connection at all between all three
• in reply tocure
Is naigella sathiva ---- kalijeeri?
Then what about Harithaki ' my grand mother used to praise it saying that it is the best and king of all herbs . Her father was an Ayurvedic doctor .
haritaki=hirada=Terminalia chebula
one of the ingredient of triphala churna...
search on net about triphala
I just ran into one other post on Berberine. Here is the link. Just for information..
alwaysoptimistic• in reply to
Hidden ,Let me to know benefits of remedy mentioned by you.
• in reply toalwaysoptimistic
Which one?
If are referring to bgr34 then just to mention that I used to take but now stopped few months back.
Hba1c of 5.3 on lchf and metformin 500mg bid
Above link was to just inform that bgr34 has Daru harida or berberine
alwaysoptimistic• in reply to
Hidden ,Please share benefits of
"1/2 glass full fat milk with malai. Add 1-2 teaspoon haldi powder. Add a teaspoon of ghee. Also some sprinkling of pepper powder. Heat all and take it"
• in reply toalwaysoptimistic
I use if for getting relief from cervical pain
Also read that this could be good for reducing BS
As I also suffer from knee oesteoarthirits I found this useful along with other preparation
alwaysoptimistic• in reply to
Thanks for enhancing my knowledge!
swas• in reply to
Daru harida or tree turmeric or as in tamil mara manjal is different from Berberis Vulgaris. In India, I have come across Berberis Vulgaris only in Homeopathy format. India has its own list of Ayurveda herbs & many reputed companies selling products with different combinations. None of them will cure diabetes if diet & physical regime are not followed.
• in reply toswas
Yes , as far as my knowledge goes , Berberis Vulgaris is different from Daruharidra.
Very useful article . a blessing for people who are suffering from type 2 .
cureAdministrator
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As daruharida is known for ayurveda for many centuries...the use of same is very restricted....
But one thing you will notice that effect of daru haridra is on liver...hmmmm so safest thing we can opt is consume same under supervision of experienced ayurveda doctor.
Again....if it is liver....why not give a try to new castle experiment???
By the way....BGR 34 tablets do contain daruharidra. which available at Rs 5/- per tablet.
• in reply tocure
Herb Highlights
Daruharidra - Improves health & functioning of pancreas, naturally.
Vijaysar - Rich in flavonoids, strengthens the cells and help maintain normal blood glucose level.
Giloy - A unique herb to improve immunity. Helps improve resistance to infections.
Majeeth - Powerful anti-oxidant activity. Helps protect vital organs from oxidative damage.
Methika - One of the best sources of Micro-nutrients. Nourishes &tones the vital organs.
Gudmar - Maintains post-prandial blood glucose level by delaying glucose absorption.
• in reply to
Strange . If so many medicines are available giving excellent Results , then what for people are undergoing the suffering .
• in reply tocure
Yes . BUT he said 'Beriberis vulgaris ' which is used for urinary infection . @ CURE mentioned in his post that it is Beri beris Aristata '' which is different .Daru haridra is of course can be used for diabetes . But I didn't hear that it is so efficacious in diabetes . Any way it can be used if available . The problem with Ayurvedic medicines is we have to follow strict rules regarding diet and many times we don't get reliable medicines as so much of adulteration is taking place in the process .
Is it available in tablet form , not BGR34 , ---- Daruharidra ?
Hidden
Berberis aristata is indian beberry... and Berberis vulgaris in European berberry.
Effective ingredient is same....
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cure
THANK YOU . All my homeopathic books which I got from my father are by European authors only . I donot have Indian books on ayurveda and so i do not have much info on the herbs except a few herbs.
Hidden
Some one guess akil or some one suggested some homeopathy remedy for diabetes....
You may look at same...I guess it will work....
ofcoz it is like umbrella treatment just like BGR34....it includes almost all homeopathic medicines useful for diabetes.
I have seen some miracles with homeopathy.
But guess what??? One of my friend....who himself is Homeopathy graduate....and excellent in Homeopathy...is suffering with diabetes....and finding himself helpless.
But look at suggested medicines by him....guess they will work.I just have reservation about murex suggested by him....
• in reply tocure
CUREDIABETES i Follow the principles taught by my uncle who was a very good homeopathic doctor . He never accepted the generalised cure and diseases like diabetes according to him should be treated on individual basis .But like they say , information is wealth and knowledge is power . So I want to gather as much information as possible with respect to diabetes .Thank you very much . I think , if your friend takes a constitutional medicine , he would get rid of the problem , instead of going for the medicines suggested by the homeopaths in books . Beriberis vulgaris really is very effective in urinary infections . In case of diabetes I never tried .
@saswathy
very true....same as murex...it is used again for urinary tract ..especially bladder...I guess it will be more effective in female.
Read here...
ilovehomoeopathy.com/murex-...
@saswathy further he suggested acid phos...guess it will be very useful for male
• in reply tocure
I think it is immaterial whether male or female , but diabetes caused by some mental suffering and sorrow , phosphoric acid gives relief . As far as Murex is concerned , just because it has got the symptom of polyurea and excess hunger , it can't be prescribed .
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If a patient has calcarea carb constitution any number of medicines would not give relief unless a couple of doses of calcarea carb are given . Thus first the constitutional and causative walls have to be knocked down for getting an effective cure. Sorry if I have taken your time with unnecessary details .
A different tune of the same music , I believe .
Gentlemen! pls do inform where in India, is this drug available?? pls, pls do inform us all; thnx in advance,
apologies anup, if possible, if you happen to know this acquaintance of yours, of the US, why not ask him where in the US is this available or maybe, you obtain name of drug mfr. that'd simplify google search, that wouldn't be a problem; thnx in advance, Rgds,
IN BOMBAY IT IS AVAILABLE IN MATUNGA AND MAHIM AREA AT EVERY CHEMIST SHOP
ABSOLUTELY. IT DOES NOT GIVE YOU LICENCE TO FREAK OUT. IF BGR WORKS FOR YOU AND YOU ARE AND REDUCE SOME ALOPATHIC DRUG LESSER SIDE EFFECTS. BECAUSE DRUG INDUCED SIDE EFFECTS ARE THE MAJOR CAUSE OF DIABETIC COMPLICATIONS IN THE LONG RUN
anup, regarding ur friend who is taking the berberis/berberine and achieving success with it, would u be having any idea if he is taking the tablet or tincture, n what is the brand name (if allowed to tell) n actual ingredient? for example, is it a tincture that says "berberis vulgaris" or is it a tablet? would be grateful if it's possible for u to find out this information and let me know. thanks.
This was year back
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