LCH* What?

[MikePollard]

I don't know how many people are aware of just why the changes that have occurred lately restricting LCH* (note how careful I am being) on diabetes India and the establishment of LCHF Diabetes.

Firstly, I am moderator of LCHF Diabetes, but please read on.

My views on LCHF are well known and trenchant, but latterly the whole reason for setting up the group - to support people with diabetes has been hijacked by polarised groups (myself among them). On the one side are the supporters and those seeking a solution to at least alleviate their condition, and on the other side people vehemently opposed to anything other than the established dogma and medication solution. This has become so entrenched that the noise has turned off earnest seekers when a posted thread turns into a ridiculous too and fro between less than ten established protagonists running to 50 plus bruising exchanges per post that get nowhere. I've been guilty of that in the past, but even I cannot even bear to read the responses to threads I put up. So the moderators have decided to try to introduce some sanity to the debate. Trust me if you do not do so already, but this is not to stifle debate, but to try to get the whole raison detre back on track.

For my part I regret the deletion of anything to do with LCHF on Diabetes India, and it's a clumsy mechanism to deal with the problem but the current situation had me seriously considering dipping out and letting everyone just get on with their world views. However, this would leave the genuinely seekers of wisdom out in the cold, hence me accepting the invitation to be moderator of the new site. It's not ideal and I'm unsure how successful the concept is, but I'll give it a shot.

I'd appreciate your feedback, I might have things wrong, as might HU.

The new site is for supporters of LCHF and it's role in diabetes in India. It is not a debating forum for those opposing that view, so please don't go there - there are many more sites out there who want to argue their prejudice. The new site will live or die due to the success or otherwise of those espousing the LCHF lifestyle.

I have no attachment to to the new site other than to re-establish a grounding that promotes my view that LCHF is the growing movement to control and eliminate the scourge of type two diabetes that is bankrupting the health services of the entire world in the grip of multinational companies wrecking multinational health.

I'd appreciate your feedback, as none of us is as smart as all of us! But outside of that, transfer your allegiance if you think there is a positive to the move. It will take very little negativity to make me move on.

Regards,

Mike (Should I change my photo in line with my new status?)

[Hidden]

Congratulations Mike

While anup is helping diabetics in the other forum I am sure u will be able to help many diabetics over here

I am sure you will be able to lead well

[Hidden]

I personally believe that a good thing has happened

I will also stop visiting this forum and better support Mike and other diabetics

This forum has no learnings anyway

This forum will be open to peddling, high carb low control diet, etc etc etc.

[alwaysoptimistic]

He is a moderator at HU and,i think,he can post whatever and wherever,he thinks,is required to post.

[alwaysoptimistic]

Are you serious?

!!!!!

[alwaysoptimistic]

Every diabetic must understand this drawback of taking HC.Specially those who are using and advocating what is called a balanced diet.

[alwaysoptimistic]

Yes,right!

[Hidden]

All are hardiners here

LCHF hardiners

Ada hardiners

Vegan hardiners

Ayurveda hardiners

[cure Administrator]

@anup

after nice nice quotes from rigveda and Indian sacred texts.....here is one more quote I learned at my school.....(very suitable for hardliners)

अग्रतः चतुरो वेदाः पृष्ठतः सशरं धनुः ।

इदं ब्राह्मं इदं क्षात्रं शापादपि शरादपि ।।

Means....with taking our sacred texts at front...and quiver full of sharp arrows on our back.....we stand here to defend our faith...may it be with our sharp arrows...or curse (abuse) ......lol...

[alwaysoptimistic]

Hidden ,Correction please!

The languages they are using are English,Hindi and/or Sanskrit and nothing is wrong with languages.Their words seem to you unpleasant.Is not it?

[alwaysoptimistic]

Hidden ,What is meaning of his own forum?

Forums are not for any single person.You can join any form as par your need.You are welcome at dlife.in !Please come and join to learn and teach.

[jan-ran]

How do I get to your new site Mike? I will certainly join, tho I did say the other day, I wouldn't. I have changed my mind. I would like to distance myself from the toxic atmosphere in this forum. Shame on the few who have spoiled it for the many.

[jan-ran]

Thanks anup. I found it and have joined. 😃

[alwaysoptimistic]

Hidden ,Their languages or words?Which of these is unpleasant for you?

And just see your reaction against my soft words!

[alwaysoptimistic]

Thank you and same to you!

[GNJanbaz]

You have played with the words and are not clear what you want to impress on the followers.No doubt that at present the socalled LCHF is needed for reducing the fat accumulated causing diabetes and related problems.In my opinion LCHF is needed as low carbohydrate results low oroduction of glucose in the blood thus lowering the diabetes.But the treatment is to be meted after finding the cause of diabetes,if it is due to defect in Pancrease lowering production of insuline required for burning glucose to release energy,or because of change in the life style,increase of fat,[production of two much glucose by intake of too much carbohydrates,which is temporary and reversible by taking less carbohydrates,but taking more fats especially unsaturated is in no way helpful but dangerous. with regards

[GNJanbaz]

The other forum is unscientific depends on pushes,I would like to join the new forum to avoid pushbacks

[Hidden]

What exactly is the science of medical reports .Reports of sugar levels after a particular diet or reports of scientific researches which change every alternative day.

[Hidden]

Today's opinions are to marrow's reports .

[Hidden]

Homeopathy never claimed infallibility . Diseases which are the result of constitutional , psychological , and psychosomatic drawbacks can be attended with reasonable rate of success . I had seen many doctors of modern medicine , coming to homeopathy after failing in their efforts , especially when it comes to their family .

[Hidden]

I don't think that we have ever tried the indiscriminate reporting going beyond the rules .

[Hidden]

So far I never tried to collect any case histories of clinical trials , because I never wanted any proof . Now , I would try to convince them to give the reports , in the public interest . . Any ways , I made it clear many times , that my experience and practice is very limited and all of them are close relatives , family friends , and illiterate slum dwellers .So the collection of trails is not possible for obvious reasons . Nevertheless I would try , because it is for a cause .

[Hidden]

No , I don't have any record , because they all have monetary interest and They are not open for discussion .Even if asked for any medicine in case of emergencies , where I can't order for the same from the pharmacy in Mangalore , which takes at least 10 days for the delivery , the homeopathy doctors in practice , do not give any , demanding to consult them as a patient paying their fees .

[cure Administrator]

AnupBanerjee I have seen some miracles happening with homeopathy....

A simple experiment you can do and try at home....if some one is suffering with calcium deficiency or iron deficiency...treat him with homeopathy medicines...you will get fantastic results....

how those small round balls work is mystery.

But as same time diabetes is very very individual....so as homeopathy...it works on symptoms....so every diabetic will show different symptoms ...and therefore homeopathic medicine will change from person to person.....you can not conduct trials for homeopathy medicines like other medicines...

Further.....there is very big deep and wonderful chapter in homeopathy about bach flower remedies....

If some one really got deep study in this subject can reach to cure for sure shot....

But guess as some one suggested we can try that umbrella treatment....

Goli lag gayi toh lag gayi.....

[cure Administrator]

I like my MOTO G

[cure Administrator]

@anup

when I type anup...it gives many options but simple anup....sorry for that...