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I AM in the healthy range after LCHF

Two months back i was declared 370 sugar level after lunch during my health checkup. I advised to go for a Doctor. when doctor checked me after three days of first test it was 394. Doctor given me advise to take med. But i wanted to take knowledge about the wrong thing happened with me. Then i took the help of Google search and found this site. I started exercise 1hr in the morning and LCHF as per chart. After 20 days my level was found 91 fasting and pp was 160. Now two months passed on LCHF diet my levels are 90 and 145. I feel very active and light. My extra fat gone. I am wearing my five years old T-Shirts and shirt. My waste was 36 but now i purchased 34 which is also loose.

Thanks God I opened this site.

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Welcome to the club of LCHF followers. Maintain your diet and be strict on your regimen.

Your BS and lipid nos. will improve.

BTW what are your lipid levels?

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all are in range

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It is proving my assumption that younger diabetics who are not on medication get best results and that also quickly, RIGHT.

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I've been diabetic for quite a while and LCHF completely solved all my issues. However, I find that I cannot go above 30 g. of carbs, so it's pretty frustrating. Exercise is difficult due to other health issues so I have to work hard to do it through diet. I am looking at some supplements and perhaps using pterocarpus...

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No figure can be absolute,it is always comparative.No data available for detailed percentage wise study,that is why

assumption.

Why not try to work it out of 150+ figure for age

wise,duration of diabetes with or without any complication etc! etc.

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Hurrah ! congratulations well keep up the good readings :)

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Then,it is not right to say assumption is wrong.

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No one is arguing that several diabetics have benefited.But it is not the point of contention.As you always fail to understand my point of view,I don't find any pleasure in any useless argument .

Onus always lies on accuser to prove things and not vice versa.

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Come on Medfree isn't trying correct anybody's opinion in this forum . He is just stating what's worked wonderfully well for him and many of us.

Let's forget these assumption and presumption business and get on with this LCHF .And propagate what's worked well. Am a journalist and know all the tricks adopted by company's like Novartis to prove LCHF is a myth.L C H F is my Mantra and I fully endorse Medfrees counsel.

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I consider both medfree and patliputra to be great assets to this blog. Both contribute meaningful views, Yes, you are right; burden to prove lies with the accuser!

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If at all, what percentage of dietary fat passes out through urine?

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I am +20 yrs of diabetic patient. One & half yr back I have adopted LCHF diet. My results were encouraging and I had shared it on this site. I have recommended it to more than 15 patients. Silly part is few of them said it may be good but we cant follow it strictly. Few followed it for 2-3 months and gave me feedback that their levels are improved and they are below 150. For 1 I told if you don't cook non veg, I will give daily 1 boiled egg to you. Few days he followed and there after informed me that he will call me as and when required. I feel sorry for such people who like to take tabs and avoid eating simple LCHF diet. Now I don,t advice any body and follow my own path.

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i have been telling all my friends about this low carb diet. To day my fasting is 92. Fasting on daily basis goes up to 120. PParound 150. i am monitoring my sugar almost 3 times daily. With a diabetic history of 20 yrs i never knew that i could bring it down so much. This has never happened in my life . i had switched on to sitagliptin/januvia 100 mg about 5 yrs back since my sugar was not coming in control.

i even visited diabetic center since my sugar level was not coming below 250 and touching even 300 at times . Doc advised me to go on insulin . i had taken insulin for 3 weeks. Now stopped all that . iam taking metformin 500mg 3 times with dianil . Slowly as i progress on this diet i intent to reduce this also . i do not feel hungry or week at all .Lunch and dinner i have adequate veg to fill my stomach .

wish i had known this diet long back . may be i would have controlled my sugar level more and improved my health too

I WISH TO TELL MY FRIENDS READING THIS TO GET OVER THE IDEA FROM OUR MIND THAT WE CANNOT LIVE WITH OUT RICE AND CHAPATIS................AND YOU ARE ON THE WAY TO FULL RECOVERY FROM DIABETICS....GOOD LUCK TO THOSE READING THIS

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For those who are reading these mails, a few days back i had gone off eating rice and chapatis with meals and switched on to vegetables with an egg in the morning and evening. The results are very encouraging for me, Today afternoon i was tempted to have an ice cream also. Was a surprised to see the pp was showing only 136 .In fact i was expecting it go very high Morning fasting reading was 105. Friends i have been diabetic for last 20 years.

I do have handful of almonds, peanuts etc twice with tea/ coffee

My suggestion to those who are sincere in reducing their sugar level is to have a self monitoring mechanism in hand like a "one touch" select strip etc and study how your body is responding to a change in diet

well this is how my body is responding to this new diet plan as given in low carbo diet i have soup before dinner and lunch with a spoon of butter added to it . what more can a diabetic person ask for .am grateful to those who opened my eyes to this new diet

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Thanks. Actually the reference is supportive of my assumption.Younger the diabetic and on no medication or on minimal medication respond quickly to lchf,while diabetics of long duration and advance in age respond slowly.

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i am 52 and getting good results with lchf

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I am 61/62 my score in January was 11.6% and till I came down to 6.4 the weekly average decline was 0.175%. Next month the weekly decline was 0.025% and in the next four weeks it improved to 0.1% (in fact I consumed mangos, increased intake of carb etc. This SCORE IMPROVEMENT has been WITHOUT MEDICINES. [I put my diet plan twice on this forum and contributor medfree commented that it is not LCHF i.e. there were too many carbs and not enough fat etc.]

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I fully endorse your view that to achieve a goal ,it is not always necessary to adopt extreme measures.Even Jenny ruhl is taking around 110 gms. Of carb and metformin and used to take insulin.

Our dietary habits are far different from west and we are recklessness lay trying to adopt same model,which was initially used as weight reduction measure,they said low carb diet.High fat is later addition to justify out dated calorie requirement theory.

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Yes no alternative for us without lchf diet .In this forum many times Mr.medfree adviced since long. Please note you have only road is lchf

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It is human nature to travel on well beaten path,as it is easier, convenient and fully known.No harm in that.But it takes courage, determination and perseverance to to follow an unknown path.

It is an old saying.

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Patliputra, By 'young diabetic' do you mean young in age or short history as diabetic?. If it is former, you are wrong. I was 65 when detected D with high values viz., fbs/ppbs/hba1c 290/399/13. Within 15 days I clocked near normal bs values. Now after 18 months, I have all sugar-related values within non diabetic range. My hba1c values for the last three quarters are 5.5, 5.1 and 5.3. I never took any medicine. Only low carb diet and mild exercise and walk.

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Sugu, as it was addressed to me,so as a courtesy I am responding.I perfectly agree with you about your diabetes getting cured within 15 days.

A long time back I had written in this forum about a type of diabetes ,medically not recognised or find a reference any where,but iam sure that it occurs .I call it transient or diabetes of short duration.

If a person, irrespective of age,goes under a period of intense stress and strain,due to any cause,unconsciously or consciously,some thing happens that precipitates hyperglycaemia and he is levelled diabetic.

There are known toxins,and medications and certain type of tumours which cause diabetes which may be short lived.

But the diabetes caused by extreme stress are always short lived depending on many factors,period varying from weeks

So it up to you to decide about what is right and what is wrong.

About your query age or duration,pl" carefully read my blog, you will find your answer.

These are my personal views.

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sugu: How bad was your A1C when first diagnosed? (Mine was pre-diab range when I was 53, now coming onto 62). At age 56/57 it was full blown. January 2014 it surpassed previous high of 11.3% by 0.3% peaking to 11.6. Now, without any medicine whatsoever, it is 6.0%.

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Patliputra, Thank you for responding to my reply. I believe this a forum for sharing our experiences and views. I respect your views and and even more your right to hold and share your views. I am a scientist by training and therefore have an open mind to views expressed. But at the same time as I am not a researcher on diabetic medicine, I still consider my assumptions impirical or based on common sense consideratioons. I am also aware of the unethical practices prevalent in the medical profession and the farma industry as being pointed out by medfree. We need to be vigilant.

I was just telling you that LCHF can help even old people because I was already 65 when I detected D. I could not relate my condition it to any predisposing conditions such as stress medicine etc to cause the temporary high sugar. Moreover, I am not comfortable to call myself 'cured' for the reason that even now if I slacken by diet, the bs values jump high. I am not willing to take medicines if I can help avoiding it therefore tried this forum. This a learning experience for me and it is helping me to achieve my goal.

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saga i fully agree with you

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sorry sugu. i typed it as saga

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Sugu, I very much appreciate and respect your views.I am also happy to meet a scientist.As a common man our impression of a scientist is that they are highly learned people with a very inquisitive mind always trying to think some thing new ,experimenting with new ideas .

I also agree that idea must not be illogical to start with.My assumption was based on inputs on this forum and at the outset I had said it is NOT a scientific paper, it is only my personal thinking.There is no research paper to prove or disprove it.

So e time back one Shooter George did some work on diabetes.Just think an Indian putting something new based on his own personal experience fully documented,many on this forum adopted long wheat and reported improvements,but many on this forum pooh pood his findings and ridiculed him,instead of appreciating him.

So any body's views if not in agreement with Lchf are subjected to severe bashing.No tolerance and desire to understand others point of view. That is pity and tragedy.

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medfree, humans are unique and for sure there has to be other things besides and/or in addition to LCHF that may work! Sugu reflects open mindedness of a scientist. Also, there is merit in what Patliputra says. So let us be objective and not personal. I probably am one who needs more carb. There are metabolic and body type theories (will have to find the physical books from the store) that identify different strategies based on comprehensive questionnaire probes. I recall there are four distinct metabolic type classification for humans.

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AxEffect: Thanks for the web site Dr. Mercola's Nutritional Typing. However, I was referring to: THE METABOLIC TYPE SELF-TEST - Dr. Kate Klemer

drkateklemer.com/wp-content/.../03/The-Metabolic-Type-Self-Test.pdf

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AxEffect: You have made excellent points. Thank you. I find the proposition that high carbs can be addictive very real!

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I was 68 and diabetic since 25 years when I tried LCHF for 4 months. MY BS which was in the range of 150/180 dropped to 100/130, my weight reduced by 5 Kgs, my waist reduced by 2", Cholesetrol and triglycerides parameters improved. But my creatinine levels went up during this period, and I also started getting problem of piles which worried me. So I switched over diet, and now my weight has gone up by 4 kgs, my waist up by 1.5" and my BS levels up to 120 /150 levels. I am thinking to switch over to LCHF once again.

Eugine Augustine

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I was 68 and diabetic since 25 years when I tried LCHF for 4 months. MY BS which was in the range of 150/180 dropped to 100/130, my weight reduced by 5 Kgs, my waist reduced by 2", Cholesetrol and triglycerides parameters improved. But my creatinine levels went up during this period, and I also started getting problem of piles which worried me. So I switched over diet, and now my weight has gone up by 4 kgs, my waist up by 1.5" and my BS levels up to 120 /150 levels. I am thinking to switch over to LCHF once again.

Eugine Augustine

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Thanks medfree for citing the links to my posts. Norreal, hope links given by medfree answer your question to me.

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pawanparashar37: Young person hope you are off medicine. I am coming onto 62 this quarter and till December smoked up to 60 cigarettes. A prohibited tonic poisoning case in 1997 that impacted pancreas/liver. In January my HbA1C was 11.6% and now without medicines, through diet and exercise, it is 6.0%. I have at two previous occasions put my daily diet quota on this blog.

efar52@gmail.com

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This forum is not for selling personal score,any body advises lchf any person follow or may not follow,why one should worry and post nasty things here.Advice can be given cannot be enforced.Many peoples follow low carbs diet but do not preach again and again on this forum., i am also one of them but brisk walking do not make me hungry.Do not assume something which is not happening.My suggestion do not bark again and again for lchf diet,enough is enough.

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are rksharmakumar why are you angry. let the people share their views on this forum. no body is forcing to follow lchf. if u feel it suits for follow it otherwise no. don't loose ur mental balance

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I never utter a name but you have started calling names.Old habits die hard, is it not?Good luck.

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Done.

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I want to include here add one day weekly fast if any problems in controling sugar. Specially diabetic 1

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Pl let us know the list of food you take on a day to day basis as you have recently switched over recently.

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Pl let us know the list of details of the food you take, as you have recently switched over recently.

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Chapati 1,2,1 breakfast,lunch dinner. Green tea-1, Jamun or Alu bukhara 100gm, Methi powder- One Spoon, Soup- 250 ml mix veg, Milk 200ml two times without sugar, Tea- two cup without sugar, Egg- two daily or amlate, Almond- 5 giri. In chapati channa and soyabins mix 50%. One hr walk and yoga.

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Please confirm that this is a really happening in your life so that I can start to do the same, even otherwise, I will start because its compulsory to be self-motivated. Thanks. Sir My email ID is himatbhaiparmar@gmail.com 09924576998

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