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To see ourselves...as others see us...?

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An interesting and slightly odd run. This is, I am afraid one of my ramblings.

 I ran on Sunday morning. The folk who read my ramblings know that I like Sunday Run-days. It is often very quiet and gives me time to take even more in, than I do usually. Sunday was going to be a quick run... short, and enjoyable.

The day was bright and I was out of the house by 7.30. I decided to take Speed and Laura with me, as I find it very satisfying on a short run. I had planned the route, in my head, and was covering old territory, a little bit of road and more track and field than anything else. A brisk walk to Seagull roundabout..no birds there this morning... and the geese... late -risers the other day, were high above me as I turned and began to run down the hill. Down into the village and along behind the station and by the stream, through the small housing estate and back along the main road and up the lane by Rookery Wood.

Although Laura was whispering in my ear, I know this podcast by heart, so I had the volume on low, in order to hear the sounds around me. Sometimes when you run, it feels as if you are the only person awake in the world. Almost complete silence, except for my feet lightly hitting the floor. Gentle and quick steps, taking me along by the hedges of the field and under my Majestic Oak. The few days of unexpected and very warm sunshine have encouraged a growth spurt in greenery. Sticky, bulging buds and fluffy mouse-ear leaves now... a different variety of catkins, too, hanging like fat, yellow, hairy caterpillars from spiky twigs... and the small birds flitting in and out of the undergrowth as I ran past. Laura takes you through the intervals and they are second nature to me now, moving from one pace to another, all the while looking and staring and feeling at one with Nature.

I don't know how I run... I think I know, but I am not sure... I have tried to listen to Laura, read advice from the forums and also adapt my own style. A lady who drives and does home deliveries in our area, told my husband she had seen me once, out running, and I looked like a proper runner... :) I try to run tall and to be aware of posture and style but, how that looks to others I have no idea. Someone on here, I think it was nhs2015  , told me it is a good idea to be photographed as you run, as it helps with your posture.

I must ask husband to follow me out!

On this morning, the running took over; no thought of posture, style or anything else, and I just ran. Across the field ,over the steam railway line and up the field, to the top of the hill. Dry, underfoot and only a bit of extra breath needed. Turned across the top, by the copse of trees and down and back across the field, up the other side of the field , through the hedge gap and onto the lane heading back home. I was aware of a moving figure in the distance, coming towards me, somewhere to my left, as I turned, but I was so relaxed and at ease with the running...Laura, silent now,, so, still at a fairly quick pace, but very light and certainly very relaxed, I carried on down the hill.

Suddenly, I was aware of a runner behind me. I could hear the feet... I could, really, hear the feet.

A heavy thump as they hit the floor and the sound of very laboured breathing. I half-turned, as I carried on, jogging now, and across the other side of the lane coming down, still a fair way away.. was a young woman, running at breakneck speed.; I did, sort of stop, she never even glanced at me as she, quite literally pounded past. Dressed in Capri leggings, and a strappy t shirt, blond hair tied back in a pony-tail, soaking wet and plastered to her neck, she had sweat streaming down her bright- red face, but, it was the look of pure and total agony on her face that completely surprised me. She was grimacing, the awful, anguished concentration on her face was unbelievable.

I stopped running..for whatever reason, she really halted me in my tracks. She was past me in an instant and hurtling at a frightening pace, down the hill, arms waving out to the side and fists flailing, heavy thuds, as her feet struck the floor, down and towards the bottom of the lane.

I am prone to wild imaginings I know, but for whatever reason..it frightened me. Why would anyone run like that? I have seen many people run; in my youth I was a very fast runner.. ( hard to believe I know) , I have seen track runners, Marathon runners, I have watched Endurance runners, etc, but I have never seen anything like this lass's face.

I'm not even sure why I am posting this, but it was quite terrifying. I did not want to run now. I walked home from that point, all churned up inside and quite at a loss to understand why. Was she ill? Was she unhappy? Where was she running to or from? Are all her runs like that? Was that her running style? I have never seen her before.

By the time I reached the Station she had long gone... I passed two other runners.. gently moving along the road.. they waved. I waved back.

So, my run got lost on Sunday. Her run, will stay with me for a while I think.

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yatesco profile image
yatescoGraduate

My initial reaction is that age tempers ego? 

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toyatesco

Subtle... that took me moment...(age) ... never thought of that..it was something I have not come across..not here any way... :)

That actually has helped.... thanks.I do dwell on things sometimes. :)

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yatescoGraduate in reply toOldfloss

I hope what I meant was clear; that the _other_ runner sounded like they were running based on their ego and not reality, and as a (what category did we put you in? 'young old' was it? ;-)) 'young old' person you have the benefit of years of wisdom and experience to temper your ego, which is probably why you didn't recognise the motivation (i.e. ego) of the other person's running.

Of course, I am making a huge assumption about their motivation/drive etc., she might have just had a really bad day and was 'anger running'? :-)

I somehow thing I should stop typing as my mouth is starting to choke on my foot! :-).

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toyatesco

It's fine..I know what you mean!  I am at ease with myself..and my age..in fact I think totally rock, being 66 😉

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yatescoGraduate

More importantly, please don't let one deluded persons' agonising enforcement of their misguided ego-driven view of themselves ruin this wonderful hobby for yourself.

It makes me chuckle though that apart from the fashion sense you pretty much described the first 30 seconds of my week 1 run 1 there ;-).

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toyatesco

Ooops! :)

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UllyrunnerGraduate

How strange. I do that quite a lot - see people and wonder about their lives, feelings motivations etc, makeup a back story for them! Clearly too much time on my hands ....

I've never come across a fierce runner though - in fact I rarely see any other runners around the village at all. In fact, one guy passed me at the weekend and I almost felt I needed to post about it!

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toUllyrunner

You should have 😏 it was just so odd..yatesco has expained it to me ☺

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BluebirdrunnerGraduate

Sounds to me like she would benefit from some couching from Laura.😊

Much rather run for fun and recreation than be struggling, in agony and going too fast. x

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toBluebirdrunner

Me too! Wholeheartedly agree there! 🙂

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LisaRose74

It would scare me to be in that state when running, but then I overthink things too much these days.  I think some people just like to push themselves hard, but our slow and steady approach to me seems much more enjoyable.

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toLisaRose74

Yep...slow, steady..suits me, just fine...🙂

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IrishprincessGraduate

Maybe she was having an angry run. It's like angry sex - it has its place 😉

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toIrishprincess

Okaaaaaay...I get where you are coming from...🙂

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GoogleMeGraduate

Isn't there an unwritten rule somewhere that we don't pass judgment on other runners... (apart from the rude ones who barge past, don't acknowledge a greeting or who make sneery and discouraging comments about others)

Run and let run...

(Most of us wouldn't look too great if photographed at the moment of orgasm...)

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toGoogleMe

Goodness..who has made any judgements? Where has that come from..? She worried me..that's it..I made no judgement.

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MaxiscotGraduate

Maybe a condition I suffer from - b..ch resting face! 

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toMaxiscot

Sorry?

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MaxiscotGraduate in reply toOldfloss

Oh right. Apologies for the source. My oh says I have it! 

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toMaxiscot

Thanks..I know what it is..wasn't sure what you meant at first.. i don't have any idea whether the runner was angry or sad..or anything else..she worried me..I worried about her..she looked hot and very.very anxious...merely thoughts, not anything else......Just made me wonder about my own self perception...

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ElsieWGraduate

I love your ramblings Oldfloss!  I don't see too many angry runners but I do see a lot of gazelle like humans that make this running game look easy!  I told one that us slow runners are planted to make them look better...........haha!  

E xxx

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toElsieW

I do not know what she felt..she worried me..that is all..🙂

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Rignold

we often have sprint sections of our workouts - anywhere from 400 to 1600 metres, often carrying heavy objects, always jammed inbetween other gruelling high intensity exercises, always 'for time', and I sometimes wonder as we charge around the block from the gym, en masse, gasping and panting, struggling to beat one another, what passersby must think is going on because it must be a somewhat alarming sight coming round teh corner.

people get different things out of exercise and go about it in different ways. Pushing oneself to one's limits does not necessarily mean one is deluded, misguided or ego-driven.

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toRignold

I think you are quite right..we are all different and tread different paths..my post was just an observation on self perception really..and the fact that I wonder about people..just like they wonder about me.when I run.

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She wasn't angry I don't think.  Pushing hard, determined, focused.   A woman with a mission  ☺  chasing times, chasing the dream perhaps.  She could be running for a living

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply tomisswobble

Exactly..that is why I would never make a judgement..She did not look angry..(not sure where that came from)..I just wondered about her...and my own self perception...clearly a mistake.;(

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Don'-t stop perceiving ☺   Unimaginable  😊

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply tomisswobble

Thanks you...x

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misswobbleGraduate

You're welcome O.F   Now I can't stop singing Don't stop perceiving" ,that well-known song 😊 

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poppypugGraduate in reply tomisswobble

Hold on to that feeeeeling Wobble ! :-) xxx

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poppypugGraduate

I love the tags on your post Floss, they have got to be some of the best ever ! :-) xxx

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply topoppypug

Well..not sure on that... :) x PS love your Pug pikkie.. so cute x

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She sounds a lot like how I felt when I first started in 2014, like I had something to prove, not to anyone else but me. I needed to feel like I could do something. Resulted in a tremendously long stint on the injury couch. Self acceptance, esteem and belief can be very illusive at times. Thankfully I'm back out there again, at a much more sustainable pave, wearing minimal sandals because they work for me and trying not to try and roll up into a wee ball whenever people, whether friends, family or strangers, feel the need to comment or shout at the fat woman in the sandals and wild hair. 

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toReturning2Run

We all run our own paths . thank goodness... as for me I am a go-slow Old Grey Snail... and loving it... I hope she is okay whatever drives her.. :)

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boptillyoudrop49Graduate in reply toReturning2Run

Do you run in sandals?

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toboptillyoudrop49

Sandals?

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Returning2RunGraduate in reply toboptillyoudrop49

Yep, I do. So much comfier than any trainers I've ever worn, I'd run barefoot if I could :-)

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boptillyoudrop49Graduate in reply toReturning2Run

Oh that is interesting. Would never have occurred to me. 

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Returning2RunGraduate in reply toboptillyoudrop49

It's helping me build up arches in my flat feet and not heel striking too. I found running sandals on xero shoes but didn't want to spend any more money on running shoes til I knew it was for me, so off to Primark I went for a cheap pair of sandals and it's working. There are lots of foot exercises to do while not running too, as well as keeping an eye on my foot posture all the time. But it's only been 2 months and it's great :-) 

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toReturning2Run

So interesting!

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poppypugGraduate

Thank you xxx

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aliboo70

I'm not surprised you were spooked, not sure i have seen anyone run like that, some of our parkrunnners are pretty focused though! She must have had something on her mind i guess or thrashing out a really bad day or just apush-as-hard-as-you-can runner!  i'm like you and that would probably stay with me for the day, but don't let it sink too deep in(says me, the eternal worrier!) hummph!  big hugs for a more positive end to your next run oldfloss ((( )))

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toaliboo70

I hope she is fine..just dedicated to running and hooked..like the rest of us...I do worry about stuff..but, hey ho..another day another run..thanks youx

I love your rambling posts. I think running just gives us time and space to think. Maybe the runner you saw was interval training? 

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Thanks..I think you could be right.when I started the intervals on Speed..I used to be gasping!

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boptillyoudrop49Graduate

I think she might do a different sport and run as part of her training but not for enjoyment. Have never passed anyone on my runs who was working that hard. I expect that is what it looks like at a sports field when the footballers, rugby players and so on do their runs. Mind you she could also have just been despersate to get home and to the loo!

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toboptillyoudrop49

You could be right..I am getting my husband to photograph me running..I want to study my face..I l know I go very very red! The loo bit....I know the feeling...not sure about a wild wee though...I wpuld need to find a very private shrub 😉

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O.F. I suspect you are very empathetic and picked up whatever vibes this lady was emitting on her way past - obviously not happy pink fluffy ones that day.  Develop a vibe filter which only lets positive ones through.  Perhaps we could fashion one out of me nans old net curtains.  This would have the dual effect of vibe-proofing you and breaking the focus of determined heavy footed runners.  I bear no responsibility for any arrests by running fashion police.

I NEVER want to see a piccy of myself mid-run.  I see how it looks afterwards and assume by then I have gone down a couple of shades on the colour chart!

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toSlookie

It is a thought...I looked for her today...but I was very early this morning..5.45..so. Just me and the birds and they were all very chirpy! 🙂

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MK974

Perhaps she was running to forget something. Sometimes when I feel overwhelmed I exercise, it helps. 

Isn't it sweet that this unknown runner has so many people concerned for her well-being? I hope she's feeling loved today :)

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toMK974

I think lots of us felt this.. I hope unknown runner, is okay! We are sending. positive vibes to runners everywhere..I find one off the best things about the running is the freedom to let things go and revive my spirits... we had lots of posts on the forum, about the effects of running.. besides the obvious ones..:)

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