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Hi all,

Can anyone explain to me (in simple terms 😀) how to increase my cadence?? I’ve watched some YouTube videos but I’m not really sure what I physically need to do? Is it lifting my knees higher or taking shorter strides?? Can’t get my head around it?? And also what is the point of doing this?

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Beatlesforever profile image
BeatlesforeverGraduate10

Hi VG11, I'm no expert but what I do is shorten my stride so my feet have to strike the ground more often 👣

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VG11Graduate10 in reply to Beatlesforever

Thank you! I was on the right track then, I’ll try it but being small my stride is quite short already - I’ll give it a go tonight

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IrishprincessGraduate10

Why indeed? The higher the cadence the quicker the leg turnover and the less time each foot strikes the ground which reduces risk of injury. A higher cadence is generally a more efficient way of running. So, some runners will make an effort to increase their cadence.

However, a word of caution. We each have our own natural cadence which can get higher the more we run and the more speed work we do, but this can take a long time and can be a risk factor for injury. Any effort to change your cadence should be done once a week only and maybe once a fortnight.

Shorter strides and quicker leg turnover is the best way to practice but you can get all sorts of training suggestions on YouTube.

But at the end of the day, the best way to change it is naturally through continuous running and some speed sessions 🙂

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VG11Graduate10 in reply to Irishprincess

Great answer! Thank you

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Instructor57Graduate10

You may find this useful by James dunne !For me he has a great way of getting things across

kinetic-revolution.com/runn...

I purposely worked on increasing my cadence and reducing my stride length to help reduce the pace during C25K

It took a bit of getting used to but for me it was useful.

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VG11Graduate10 in reply to Instructor57

Thanks! I’ll take a look

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Rebounder in reply to Instructor57

I so agree with you about James Dunne - he’s my go to online running hero 🏆

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Instructor57Graduate10 in reply to Rebounder

Absolutely !He knows his stuff !

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CoddfishGraduate10

Generally it’s aiming for a shorter stride, making sure your foot lands underneath rather than way out in front of you. Cadence is set by your arms so think about pumping them faster. Using music with the required BPM might help, probably 165-170 or thereabouts.

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VG11Graduate10 in reply to Coddfish

That’s so interesting! I didn’t know it was able arm movements as well

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nowsterGraduate10

What's your current cadence?

Mine's somewhere between 170 and 180, and my stride length is about 100cm. I do have long legs, though.

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VG11Graduate10 in reply to nowster

My cadence is around 150 and I’m quite short

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nowsterGraduate10 in reply to VG11

I think my cadence has increased by about 10-15 spm in the past year of running. I didn't do anything special to do it, just running regularly and gradually increasing the length of my longer runs.

Longer legs can make it more difficult to increase cadence.

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HeavyFootGraduate10 in reply to nowster

Strewth, nowster!! That’s going some 🙀You must be one of those lightning Parkrunners.

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nowsterGraduate10 in reply to HeavyFoot

My usual finishing time is around the 29 minute mark, usually about half way down the finishers table.

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HeavyFootGraduate10 in reply to nowster

My maths must be wonky. I calculated that at that cadence and step length you’d be covering about 340 metres a minute (170m each foot).

I can manage 160 cadence at top speed which falls to 140 after 2 km. But I am very large!! 🐘

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nowsterGraduate10 in reply to HeavyFoot

1m × 170 per minute is 5'53"/km.

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HeavyFootGraduate10 in reply to nowster

Now I see. I thought that step length was a single step, not distance between the same foot striking the ground (which would be double).

in reply to HeavyFoot

Me too. We learn every day 😊

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nowsterGraduate10 in reply to HeavyFoot

But that's how I calculated it!

170 steps per minute and 1 m between each foot.

170m per minute = 10.2km/hour

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YesletsgoAmbassadorGraduate10

I recently discovered how to download all the data from my Garmin to Excel so I'm now as happy as a pig in, er, mud, playing with my spreadsheet (sorry, such a nerd).

I'm 5'4" and my legs are about average for my height. My cadence has hardly changed since June when I graduated c25k, the average 'average cadence' is 138 spm, while the average maximum cadence is around 172 spm. Range of average is 108-161, range of maximum is 134-184 spm with an average stride of around 79 cm (range 72-86 cm).Sometimes I do try and increase my cadence and it must work but I have to really think about it!

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VG11Graduate10 in reply to Yesletsgo

Sounds complicated! So is a higher or lower cadence better?? I know I am being dense 😂

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YesletsgoAmbassadorGraduate10 in reply to VG11

The more steps you take each minute the higher your cadence so bigger numbers are better 😀

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SueAppleRunGraduate1060minGraduate in reply to Yesletsgo

Oh my goodness how do you download it? ooo I’ll have to find out and get my laptop out, I do love a spreadsheet

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YesletsgoAmbassadorGraduate10 in reply to SueAppleRun

You go to the Connect webpage on your laptop connect.garmin.com . You can get a list of your activities and download as a .CSV file then Bob's your uncle!

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SueAppleRunGraduate1060minGraduate in reply to Yesletsgo

Nice one thanks 😊

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MrBassmanjazz in reply to Yesletsgo

I'd love to get my data into a spreadsheet! I'm using NRC. No easy way I know of.

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YesletsgoAmbassadorGraduate10 in reply to MrBassmanjazz

Sorry I can't help with that, but if I find out how to do it I'll share it here :)

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MrBassmanjazz in reply to Yesletsgo

Thanks. I managed to pull a GPX file into Excel but didn't like the results. (Too many).

"in Google Maps. Hamburger-menu->Your Places->Maps->Create Map->Import". Will show you a map of your run and basic details.

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Ian5KGraduate10

There are metronome apps for cadence running. I’ve not used one but I think it might be more accurate and clearer than doing it to music.

You’ll probably want to try it over short dedicated runs. For your cadence of 150, set the metronome to 155, no higher to begin with. This is another reason to do short runs, and the intensity required will probably drive you nuts.

Unless you want to race (like the wind), I think 150 is just fine for a leisurely runner. As some have said, it will likely get quicker all by itself just by running regularly.

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VG11Graduate10 in reply to Ian5K

Thank you for explaining. I think I’ll stick to what I’m doing and see how it goes

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Teresa1632Graduate10

I downloaded an app called Soundbrenner. Its a free metronome app. Don't use it often or it will drive you nuts!Try running up a short gradual incline as your stride should naturally get shorter and cadence increases. On the hill, forget about your legs, and concentrate on driving your arms backwards. Your legs will follow what your arms are doing, like magic.

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MittymooGraduate10

My cadence barely altered as I trained for 5 then 10k. However now I’m doing short runs every day and without doing anything my cadence has suddenly increased

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