Hi all, I have decided to go down the no medication route for a while, having had a bad reaction to Prolia & a daily injection and feeling so much better in myself having nothing. I do lots of walking and aerobics and have just got a referral from GP for a Healthwise class at our local gym.
I am already taking Cal & Vit D and have ordered Magnesium & Vit K2 can people recommend what else might by good and what to avoid please, keep reading conflicting articles. Thank you.
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Drinking kefir is supposed to be good and eating 6 prunes a day! Sugar is bad! Calcium is meant to be better from diet rather than supplements. My GP says Vit D level should be at least 100 nmol/litre.
And I gather a study has shown that eating a bit of yoghurt with your calcium supplement helps you absorb that calcium better!
Thanks Met00. My Gp prescribes the cal/Vit D , so should be ok. I do eat prunes but wasn't keen on kefir so have Actimel which I understood came close?
I was a stone over weight but I have made a point to loose this through the summer in the hope that might take some strain off the old bones!! 😂.
Hi Messyme. Have you try to estimate your Ca intake from diet? I did and realised the prescription Calichew D3 I was taking, was making my Ca intake too high. I aim for the RDA of 1000 to 1200 mg a day. The Consultant I then saw, agreed with me and said to stop taking it, buy a separate D3 and get my Ca from diet and still aim for the RDA. You only need a small Ca supplement, if you constantly have a dietary shortfall.
I buy St. Helens Farm Goat yogurt from Sainsbury’s and a 150 g portion contains 360mg of Ca, which helps.
Best wishes
Hi LynneH-19,. No I haven't actually done this but my GP does do my blood test for it every six months and has never said that I am getting too much and I've been on it for six years!. So maybe I will try too.
The goat yogurt sounds nice, I will look out for that. Thanks for your advise.
Your Ca blood level is strictly regulated by your body so Ca excess to requirements, should be excreted. Problems can arise if your body isn’t efficient at doing this, some Ca may build up in places where you don’t want it, like in your arteries and also the formation of kidney stones.
The body is said to only utilise around 400mg of Ca a day for essential processes. Therefore the RDA of 1000 to 1200 mg allows us a decent margin to ensure we get sufficient.
Although the supplement companies want us to take plenty of Ca to boost their profits, there’s no advantage to us, in taking excessive amounts.
The full fat yogurt is nice with seasonal fruit and as a substitute for custard or cream on puddings. I make my own veg soup and adding a large dollop of yogurt as I’m serving it, makes it lovely and creamy.
Best wishes
I make my own soup too, never think of putting yogurt in but will now.
I wonder why GPs so readily prescribe Cal, never even been asked what sort daily diet i eat!
Thanks for any tips. Best wishes.
Hi Messyme
I don’t think GP’s are allowed sufficient time to question patients further, or in some cases have the inclination to ask, once they have a diagnosis. It’s easier for them to simply follow the NICE guidelines and prescribe an OP drug, usually Alendronic acid, plus a combined Ca / D3. All very cheap and better than nothing.
Also some of their patients may be having a poor diet, but are reluctant to admit it, so it’s safer to just prescribe Ca / D3 to everyone with OP.
The fact that this doesn’t contain sufficient D3 to bring a low deficiency level up to an optimal D3 level, is overlooked. The NICE guidelines need to be reviewed.
Thank goodness for OP Forums, at least we hear different points of view.
Best wishes
How truse that is Lynne, mine is very good but when I mentioned K2, she pulled a face as if she'd never heard of it and admitted they weren't trained in things like that. Times need to change, as you say NICE guidelines need reviewing. I've learned so much from reading people's recommended sites on here. Thank you all.
Nowadays, I believe we have to think more for ourselves and ask the questions of the doctor. Not good at all in certain scenarios as some patients would not think to do this or even know what questions to ask. I was dished out with the usual but after a few weeks went back to the GP and we had a discussion about the calcium/vitamin D he was prescribing. He gave me a little questionnaire on diet to complete whilst there and after further discussion at the appointment he now only prescribes Vitamin D capsule for me.
Some at my gym advised me to look at the Melio Guide website. They say somewhere on there that Omega 3 supplements are evidence supported supplements. This site also supports the use of a special weighted vest.
I've just done a little reading. The supplements are better than nothing but are not as effective as eating oily fish.
Thank you Savbing, not heard of Melio Guide but will certainly look it up. I understand the weighted vests are quite expensive but haven't actually looked but will also do that to.
Lots of information on the Melioguide site as well as Youtube instruction videos. You might also want to check out Margaret Martin's Exercise for Better Bones Book/safe and effective exercises for Osteoporosis. She also has one for Yoga!
Extremely interesting and I have ordered the book, many thanks.
I’ve never heard of this site before. Very interesting. Thanks for posting the link.
Best wishes
Thanks for the link to some really well researched relevant info for many of us here. Late reply - am in the process of changing my Apple computer for a chrome book after being persuaded by one of my sons, now experiencing a few snags, couldn't access email for 6 days so have much to catch up.
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Hi Heron, read your journey earlier and was very interested to hear your findings. Can I just clarify if you are on any bone meds right now?
I have now bought Codliver oil + Omega 3. One other silly question :. I take 2 blood pressure pills in the morning, followed by my Cal/Vit D, would it be better to have the supplements straight after or in the evening, do you think? Hope you don't mind me asking these questions.
I have never taken any bone meds in the past. I am not on them currently. I never expect or plan to take them in the future. I still take my calcium vitamin D and Vitamin K2, eat lots of salads and fermented foods including yoghurt and try to get my exercise in every day.
Sardines with bones are very good. I am taking Raloxifene (Oestrogen) for my bones.
Thank you Beryl, is that something you can buy or prescribed?
You can get it on prescription it is also called Evita.
Evista I mean, u can Google it. My doctor tried to put me off it.
Looked it up but it is not for me as I'm trying drug free for six months, thanks anyway.
I have also started taking strontium which is necessary for bone health and strength. Good luck.x
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