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I'm not in control anymore.

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I'm new here.

What do you do when you have huge panic attacks over stupid things? I mean.... I used to have such a good handle on my illness. My life situation has not helped. I'm losing my freaking mind. Literally. Sometimes it's like I can feel my brain tearing into pieces and my heads on fire. The stress is overwhelming. I'm not ok. I'm in crisis and I have no one to talk to. I don't know if there are crisis lines for panic attacks that aren't suicidal. I don't know anything. I can't think anymore.

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CanuckAnon

Breath first... keep breathing if u don’t feel calmness washing over yourself.... it’s ok we have all been here... 😊🤗

What is your brain spinning on? Get it out of your head here or on paper... just blurt out the crap...

Look at the list... are these realistic or rational thoughts? Can you think of something that turns it from negative to a positive?

What can you control? Your thinking mindset by seeing positive, distracting your mind from dark to light, your breathing to bring calmness... you are in control ... do not need to panic...

What can u do to distract yourself? Relax, take a bath, make a cuppa something warm, go for a walk in the sun, clean stuff or organize stuff or listen to music, paint a picture or a happy memory.... 😊☀️🌷

Just keep talking and getting the negative out so u can fill that void with ☀️

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Smoller9

I felt as if I was reading my own thoughts. I completely relate I’m currently 17 weeks pregnant with my first baby. They took me off my anti depressant that has treated my anxiety for the passed few years because it wasn’t safe for baby and I feel myself coming unhinged. It’s nice to know I’m not alone. I feel like my head is always on fire because my thoughts are just racin alll the time. I feel like the only relief I get is when I’m sleeping :(

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rosesandcherubs in reply toSmoller9

you have to think that the only day that counts is today, yesterday was gone and tomorrow is not yet here . Take one day at a time. When you feel like you are going to have a panic attack, try to sit in a comfortable chair with your feet on the ground, put a small pillow in your medium spine for support, close your eyes put your hands on top of your legs palm down and start counting your toes one by one raising them at the same time you count Breath in counting 4, hold for seven, release your breath counting 8.repeat three times.When you feel little calm. try to describe to yourself what you are wearing, little by little, color of your pants, blouse or dress, material,etc.Breath in counting 4, hold for seven, release your breath counting 8.At the same time push your feet down gentle but firm so you can feel the floor.You are grounding..You can continue trying to describe what is around you in the room you are without open your eyes. That distracts you of negativity because you have to try to remember small things. The breathing calm you down and slower your heart, you can feel like you can breath better and your palpitations and chest pain disappear. Maybe you can feel little sleepy ,that is normal, so make sure that the chair has arms ,just in case you fall sleep.Do not try to do all the things that people advise you at the same time. Master this one and then you can move to another one.

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BeesRCool in reply toSmoller9

Me too. And sleep just comes so seldom.

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Coffeegirl1979

I can 100 relate too all above including living situation..whatever comment down below that stated write things down ect ..huh ya what a joke in my opinion..I've done that time again and again that bs dont work for me ..say what's on ir mind ? Haha YA RIGHT ..I'd be dead if I did that get real ! ...anyhow ....my advice would be ..headphones and a mellow playlist..songs where u can just get list in ..or brain wave rhythms is a great one too ....walking helps some people..not all cuz its frickin still winter here ..north dakota ...exercises work sometimes ....baths dont ..they raise ur blood pressure makes anxiety and or panic disorder worse afterwards....breathing dont work for me per say ..if I concentrate on my breaths I get worse ..I also would like too know if theres a talk line if not suicidal..if u find that out throw me the number please ....just take 1 day at a time ..try not too think at all ..just do things without thinking ..block thinking outa mind completely...wake up and say too yourself..I am the person who doesn't overthink or really think at all

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rosesandcherubs in reply toCoffeegirl1979

you need to calm down, nothing works as fast as you want.You should keep trying the same technique(only one) until you will master it.The idea to put down in a paper what is in your mind is to put next to it something positive or something that make you realize that is your mind that create that and is not a fact.Only facts are real.There is a line 1-800-900-3277You can call any time 24 hours even if you are not suicidal.That is for kaiser permanente but maybe they can give you another number.

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BeesRCool in reply toCoffeegirl1979

Thank you for trying. Thank you for being real. I needed to hear that I wasn't alone and you did that. Thank you.

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froggie_boi

I can relate. When i have an attack i do not even know the cause. It simply comes out of no where it frustrates me soooo much.

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rosesandcherubs in reply tofroggie_boi

I use to have the same feeling but if you pay attention at your panic attacks, there is almost always a little memory of something that makes you afraid that can last seconds and then you have the panic attack that is so intense that you cannot remember that little issue. can be something like" i forgot to put water on my plants " and then you have the panic attack and you do not remember that little snap before the attack.If you can catch that and you can change it for something positive really fast, the panic attack disappear.

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IHadADog

Since you're new here, Bees, I'll just share that this particular site is filled with wonderful people who are super kind and helpful and won't judge. I went through the worst depression of my 58 years last year and it lasted about 7 months. What ultimately helped most was a new medication (Remerol or Mirtazapine). But there were always folks on this message board that listened, empathized and shared their own stories and I found that enormously helpful. Good luck to you and know that others care.

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BeesRCool in reply toIHadADog

Telling people they need to calm down... that's pretty judgy and unkind. Sooo.... no thank you.

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Drakesisland

I’m new I’m shirley I get panic attacks nearly every day they just come on doc took me off mirtazapine they were makin anxiety worse in my case so now on my third wk of sertraline 150 and 25mg quetipine at nite how long does it take to start feeling better

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rosesandcherubs in reply toDrakesisland

4 to 6 weeks.Try to do grounding to relieve your panic attacks.If you do not know how to do it I will tell you how.You need to go also to a therapist, ask your doctor to refer you to one

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Drakesisland in reply torosesandcherubs

Thanks for your reply what does grounding mean

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cmfr

breathe and ... chanting ..

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BeesRCool

My guess is that you're hear from some reason other than PTSD. There are 2 things proven, literally proven, that do not in any way help a person dealing with what CoffeeGirl and I are dealing with. 1. NEVER tell them to calm down. 2. NEVER tell them to breathe.

For someone like us, and CoffeeGirl feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, my if simply "calming down" were even an option do you think we'd be here? Do you think we'd have to deal with it at all?? No. As a matter of fact the words "calm down" can actually spin the person out even worse because they can not do it. And the telling us to breathe? Yeah.. that'll turn into a scream. There's a great video that demonstrates it beautifully for we can't upload I guess.

This... these types of answers and answers like the very first one I got...yeah that's why I never reach out for help. People who think armchair pop psychology, or worse yet this new "positive psychology" (freaking joke is what that is) help with severe cases of PTSD. They do not! I AM a psychotherapist and I work with trauma victims. However, I had to quit a few years ago because I was attacked in my home, beaten and hung, and was already turning blue by the time they finally got my down. "Breathing" and "calming down" are not possible during flash backs, nightmares, or triggered moments. I've been shot at multiple times, Stabbed, Raped multiple times. My life has been a nightmare and you think saying "you need to calm down" will help? Well let me tell you something little Ms. Taylor wannabe... it's a cute song but does NOT apply here. If you can't be actually supportive then maybe don't respond. By the way, your crown fell off.

And when your life is in the balance you best hope something works fast!

This is why I don't do groups or sites like this. And I will not be on this one anymore either. Same useless crap as every other one I've tried. "Just meditate", "Just exercise", "Paint a picture" LOL, or so many others on here and every other site, but my favorite here is "Think of a happy memory"...yeah...well.. I don't really have any of those. A lot of us don't or we wouldn't be here. A lot of us don't have anyone. Or anything. PTSD will send people running from you really fast.

Well, good luck causing more harm than good. I'm out.

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