Grateful

[Slugger61]

I feel very fortunate to have have found this site. There's so much information here. There are insights to people's journey with cancer that is similar to mine. I am grateful to be aboard with each and every one of you.I've just had a break from my ADT meds for a little over 3 months. I feel better that I did and my mind and body benefited greatly from it. Now it's time to get a Lupron injection again next Wednesday. Hopefully that alone will keep my PSA down and I won't have to take abiraterone and Prednisone.

That being said how do you combat the lack of testosterone that comes with ADT. ?

Again I feel grateful and blessed to be here.

[j-o-h-n]

So you like this site, huh? Wait till you get the bill.........

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

[Slugger61 in reply to j-o-h-n]

🙃😃

[Slugger61 in reply to j-o-h-n]

Yeah I bet the bill gonna be a whopper. Lol

[carbide in reply to j-o-h-n]

That's funny. Need humor.

[j-o-h-n in reply to carbide]

Sure do......... maybe we should form a UNION.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

[GP24]

"That being said how do you combat the lack of testosterone that comes with ADT. ? "

Lowering testosterone is the intention of Lupron and Abiraterone and required to stop the cancer. However, the body produces estrogen from testosterone and that is reduced as well. Lowering that is not required to fight the cancer but causes many side effects like hot flashes, bone loss, etc. If you increase estrogen to a normal level, you will mitigate these side effects.

academic.oup.com/jes/articl...

[GP24 in reply to GP24]

From this article: a list of side effects and whether they are caused by lack of testosterone or estrogen.

Side effects

[JohnInTheMiddle in reply to GP24]

GP - this is a famous table. Please share the source.

[GP24 in reply to JohnInTheMiddle]

This is a reply to a post I made. That includes the link to the source.

[JohnInTheMiddle in reply to GP24]

Thanks GP. Really great article from a good source.

[carbide in reply to GP24]

I wonder why, I never had a doctor suggest to me using estrogen patch or injection?

[VictoryPC]

Just don't get resistant. That's the key to all this.

[JohnInTheMiddle]

Zero testosterone. I guess no one bothered to mention that you also get zero estrogen.

[RS265]

Exercise, more exercise, rinse, repeat.

Add estrogen gel but that has some side effects like breasts that would have excited you in your youth!

[Slugger61 in reply to RS265]

Lots of exercise is a must . I'm looking into estrogen..

[Hawk56]

Others have talked about estrogen and it's role.

An additional approach may be adjusting one's diet and exercise. For me, I have no scientific data to support its effect but I believe it has played a contributory role in mitigating the side effects from treatment.

I say mitigate, not eliminate.,.

pcf.org/c/highlights-of-the...

Kevin

[Slugger61 in reply to Hawk56]

A good read. Diet and exercise are key in keeping PC at a minimum.. Alleviate sugars from diet by all means. Thanks for sharing.