Time to adjust my course, any suggest... - Advanced Prostate...

Advanced Prostate Cancer

22,371 members28,137 posts

Time to adjust my course, any suggestions?

rick8637 profile image
20 Replies

Psa is on a steady increase again. I was taking extandi for a year up until 11 /23 over that yr my Psa had dropped from 29, 11/22 to 1.4 ,11/23. I was having significant SEs, brain fog mainly so I decided to switch to nubeqa (daralutimide) even tho there was a steady drop in PSA on extandi. Nubeqa was a breath of fresh air but now it appears i made a mistake to switch. after 3 months on nubeqa psa increased to 2.6on 2/24 and now5.6, on 5/24. I have also been on orgovix for 1.5 yrs now.

So .. My first thought was to go back to extandi because it was working and try to deal with the SEs.? Do you think there is a possibility of it working again? Another choice would be docetaxel. I understand that with increasing PSA the docetaxel may be effective. I have never used any chemo drugs. Looking for some wisdom from the clan here as i read every post daily and there is a world of knowledge here.

I have an appointment with my MO next week so I need ideas to plan a course. I appreciate all of you!

Written by
rick8637 profile image
rick8637
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
Read more about...
20 Replies
God_Loves_Me profile image
God_Loves_Me

probably you know Xtandi and Nubeqa are from same class means MO may tell you if you fail Nubeqa means Xtandi will not work because cancer is hormone resistant.

Overcome from hormone resistant mostly MO suggest chemo. I think it is right way as well.

Please ask following questions. there is research out there combinations of Niclosamide and Bicalutamide help to overcome from hormone resistant of Xtandi or similar drug. Here is

Source link : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Keyword to search :

Niclosamide and Bicalutamide Combination Treatment Overcomes Enzalutamide- and Bicalutamide-Resistant Prostate Cancer

Please update us as well so I can update my note for future.

God_Loves_Me profile image
God_Loves_Me in reply toGod_Loves_Me

Tall_Allen what’s your thoughts on this combination?

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen in reply toGod_Loves_Me

IDK why you care particularly about AR splice variants, and why anyone would use unproven and toxic (at least in current formulations) drugs like niclosamide. I can't see why you would offer such possibly unsafe and ineffective advice without clinical data.

gsun profile image
gsun in reply toTall_Allen

Because some people will not survive long enough for all the trials.

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen in reply togsun

Knowing that 99% of lab studies show no effect in clinical trials, and there may be toxicity that lowers survival, how does it help to know what works in mice?

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen

You can combine the two, as in this trial:

prostatecancer.news/2022/10...

rick8637 profile image
rick8637 in reply toTall_Allen

Combine current nubeqa with docetaxel? Is that what you mean? Or nubeqa with extandi? I have trouble reading these test results.. I have no Aphinity for deciphering this data .. ignorance is me

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen in reply torick8637

Xtandi+docetaxel

rick8637 profile image
rick8637 in reply toTall_Allen

Any harm or advantage to adding docetaxel to my current mix of orgovix and nubeqa. I do have a month of extandi available if I choose to switch

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen in reply torick8637

Yes, there is harm in using docetaxel when your cancer is not actively growing.

rick8637 profile image
rick8637 in reply toTall_Allen

Would my PSA need to spike to the extreme or is the doubling rule sufficient or another criteria.. ?

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen in reply torick8637

PSA. PSADT and imaging are all important.

dk73 profile image
dk73

my husband did taxotere first, then zytega, later Xtandi. He returned to taxotere after zytega & xtandi quit working. He lost his hair, does have neuropathy but weathered the treatments well. I would recommend a port if doing chemo. My husband started his treatments in 2017 with surgery/radiation. He was 64. Now at 71 he is doing Jevtana chemo

j-o-h-n profile image
j-o-h-n

My guess it's the M.O.s guess....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

Mgtd profile image
Mgtd

I will call your guessing and raise you with my guess.

rick8637 profile image
rick8637 in reply toMgtd

Now I get it, noone knows the best answer! I may hold off on chemo till I am sure the cancer is growing. Can't wait for the MO s opinion

You can try BAT probably now entering the CRPC phase.

rick8637 profile image
rick8637 in reply to

I have explored Bat briefly and will consider this. Thanks so much

WisdomSeeking profile image
WisdomSeeking in reply torick8637

Please read first this discussion about BAT: healthunlocked.com/advanced...

My MD has been in contact with MDs. in UK concerning BAT, the opinion has changed from reluctance to a positive attitude. I will ask for contact info.

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

PSA seems stuck around 1.0 while on Orgovyx and Nubequ

After a few months experimenting with Nubeqa as a monotherapy, and seeing PSA climb to around 4.0,...
joeguy profile image

PSA rising during triplet therapy. What to ask the oncologist?

Hello to this wonderfully helpful community, my dad's initial PSA was extremely high (3103), so I...
Sissel25 profile image

Updating my husband's journey, hoping it helps others - any words of encouragement are welcome, but please only positive comments

The first part is in my profile. It makes me feel vulnerable to share, but we have benefited...
SuppWife profile image

Nubeqa vs Abiraterone for post Docetaxel maintenance?

Thanks to the many on this board that offered suggestions I will soon complete a slightly modified...
TMcgee profile image

Docetaxel & PSA time to nadir.

New study below [1]. Here is another of those studies that associate a longer time to lowest PSA...
pjoshea13 profile image

Moderation team

Bethishere profile image
BethishereAdministrator
Number6 profile image
Number6Administrator
Darryl profile image
DarrylPartner

Content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the relationship between you and doctors or other healthcare professionals nor the advice you receive from them.

Never delay seeking advice or dialling emergency services because of something that you have read on HealthUnlocked.