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3 Years After Stage IV Diagnosis

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It was three years ago today that my wonderful, sweet husband was diagnosed with Stage IV prostate cancer.  I can still remember the shock when we heard the news. We thought his diagnosis meant he would die soon. We didn't know at the time that if you respond well to treatment you can live years with this disease. Thankfully, he did respond well and amazingly is still asymptomatic. His issues all have to do with ADT, not the cancer itself.

When my husband was diagnosed in April, 2020 he started ADT (Firmagon) right away. Then he did chemotherapy (Docetaxel) along with an immunotherapy drug as part of a Phase 2 clinical trial. He did infusions of the immunotherapy drug (Opdivo) for 8 months and then was pulled out of the trial because of adverse side effects. He did monthly Firmagon shots until the pill form, Orgovyx, became available and now that is all he takes to manage his prostate cancer. His PSA became undetectable in March, 2021 and has stayed undetectable ever since. Every 3 months when his PSA is checked we always wonder if this is when it will start rising again. In the meantime, we try not to think of prostate cancer too much and just concentrate on living. We are looking forward to traveling again and have two big trips planned this year. I guess I should call them QOL trips.

 We've learned a lot in these three years. Not just about prostate cancer but about life and what matters. We always knew things can change in a heartbeat but it was in the abstract and when it happens to you it changes your perspective. We are lucky that we have a lasting love that will see us through this and even though we were close before, this has made our love even deeper. You don’t have to have sex to have intimacy.

I am thankful for this site not only for what we’ve learned about prostate cancer but for the hope I find here. It helps us both to read about those of you who have been living with this 5 years or more. I hope to be able to be posting years from now too. 

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TylexGP profile image
TylexGP

What a wonderful post from a loving and caring wife. So much of what you wrote I see reflected in my Wife’s and my relationship since we started this journey. We are just over two years into our journey. Thank you for your uplifting post.

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Avanat in reply toTylexGP

I wish you many more years on this journey too!

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mrscruffy

Great post! We thought the same and figured 3 years and done. It will be 7 years in June with no end in site, feeling great about my future

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Avanat in reply tomrscruffy

I hope we can say the same in 7 years. Here’s to many more years for all of us on this journey.

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Scout4answers

We are lucky that we have a lasting love that will see us through this and even though we were close before, this has made our love even deeper.

Lucky indeed, thought I would share a poem I wrote to Coco last week in this same vein...

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We had been together for less than a year,

when I got the message that many fear.

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Your cancer is back

and it’s on the attack.

.

We met with specialists from around the land.

Throughout it all you held my hand.

.

We carefully chose a medical team.

They zapped my prostate with a laser beam.

.

When They reduced my “T“, to damn near zero.

you stayed in my bed, your head on my pillow.

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No thought of leaving on your mind,

You stayed the course, loyal, loving and kind.

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I believe that Love is one of the most powerful drugs on the Planet and celebrate women like you that stick by their man when the going gets tough.

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Avanat in reply toScout4answers

What a beautiful poem! Your CoCo is a lucky lady. I agree with what you said about love. It’s hard times like these which show how important love is. ❤️

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dockam

Wonderful Post💙 and Congrats I'm coming up on 9 yrs this October and what a ride it's been. You may have noticed that most of my posts are QoL, just trying to enliven/inspire to distract from the ADT Blues

My saga tehachapinews.com/lifestyle...

Live Long and Prosper

Smile on QoL on

Randy 😊

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Avanat

Randy,

I should have given you credit when I said it was a QOL trip we are taking this year. I love reading your QOL posts and other QOL posts from others (like Kaliber). It’s all about making the most of life. Keep on posting!

Alana

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dockam in reply toAvanat

LoL, no worries about crediting me, it now has momentum and QoLing will be a great part of this Forum for all of us to enjoy 💙

QoL on y'all

All you need is QoL💙

Randy

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Boywonder56

Nothing can prepare you for the way I feel be you flesh and bones or Man of SteelThe strongest of faith

Start to reel

When the doc walks in

And says heres the deal

Your heart drops your

Vision dims,are you

Really hearing him

Life turns on a dime

Like being sentenced

To death but you

Commited no crime..

I stared out the window unable to speak....

Doc said something about aggresive cancer

Removing prostate..not the answer

They would turn me into a gelding..

Maybe 5 years is what i understood

After i had my little pity party

Got a second opinion...

Then the fun started

Been 18 mos

Side effects suck

Lupron and a double blind trial

I Dont sit around

And i always smile

Can still get it kinda up

Just takes awhile

For all of you guys in the same boat

Remember that even the guys in the white coats

Have a expiration date....we just found out that ours is just little more flexible...

Thats what i wrote 4 years ago...still applicable...xcept it dont git up at all😜

Peace to all BW

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Avanat in reply toBoywonder56

Thank you, BW. That was beautiful. Who knew we had such talented poets here? I appreciate you sharing this. When I read it to my husband, he could definitely relate!

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inthefight in reply toBoywonder56

Can definitely relate. Nicely done.

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JWPMP

Thank you so much for sharing this !

Bravo Avanat! At him being asymptomatic and you both successfully keeping intamacy alive . That’s beautiful . His is really the best possible outcome . It’s 8 yrs this month that my wife married me with tubes and a bad dx . Her love has held me here thus far . So now I’m pulling for him another 10 or more ! Let it hide forever from us . The harsh truth is that only 25% of us go into some kind of no signs remission . . Living with love is key to me . 😎👏👏👏

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Avanat in reply to

Scott,

I saw your post about your daughter’s wedding. It looked like a beautiful setting. I’m glad you’re doing well. Thank you for the good wishes. Yes, All You Need is Love….🎶

Alana

in reply toAvanat

Thank you Alana!❤️🙏🏼

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Yadifan

I'm so glad you posted this! First for the good news of how well your husband is doing! Second for putting into words how your love and intimacy can grow in such unexpected ways. It's almost 4 years for us, and although I would love for us NOT to be on this journey, we have grown in so many ways. My husband has been through so much and I admire him for being strong through all the treatments, keeping his sense of humor, staying positive and hopeful. We too had a great marriage before, but I feel that we now have an agape kind of love. It made me happy to hear that there are others that feel the same.

Wishing you both continued success and many many QOL trips in the future!

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Avanat in reply toYadifan

Yadifan, Your note is encouraging too. I feel the same way about my husband. I admire his bravery, outlook and so many other things this journey has shown me about him. He too has a great sense of humor and we can always make each other laugh. Besides love I think humor is key too. I wish you many more years too.!

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Scout4answers in reply toYadifan

keeping his sense of humor, staying positive and hopeful.

Signs of a Good Man, My best to you both

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Omairtde

Absolutely delighted for you and your husband, long may your time together continue.

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Avanat in reply toOmairtde

Thank you. I wish you well too!

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Juju1979

Thank you for sharing your story, it is like ours and I find great encouragement in hearing it. I hope you and your husband are blessed with many more years together.

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Avanat in reply toJuju1979

I wish you well too!

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EdBar

I was dx with stage 4 cancer in the spring of 2014, with Gods grace and guidance and some good doctors, I’m still here, enjoying every precious day. I tell people in a crazy way, having cancer has been a blessing, it totally changed my focus to what is truly important in life and making the most of every day God blesses me with.

Ed

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Avanat in reply toEdBar

Ed,

It’s hearing stories like yours that give us hope. I hope you have many more years to enjoy life. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone but like you we have found hidden blessings being on this journey.

Alana

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Scout4answers in reply toEdBar

focus to what is truly important in life and making the most of every day

Right on Brother

in reply toEdBar

Bravo EdBar! Exacto! Priorities come into plain view .👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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Dannyboy48

You are in the same boat as myself and my wife.I’m 6 years now on firmagon 2 years on xgiva. Gleason score9 psa 6.

Psa never went undetectable it stays about 2

Yes hot flashes , no sex desires and exercise every day.

Drink red wine, rum and sometimes bourbon 🍷🥃

We travel often and yes I’m always concerned about the next blood test.

We live for today and with the grace of God I’ll be around for as long as he wants me.

Sing a song , have a glass of wine and keep on dancing !!!

Now one is here forever, so enjoy today

🙏🙏🙏

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Avanat in reply toDannyboy48

Thank you for posting another hopeful story of living with Stage IV. We know things can change quickly but we try to enjoy the time we have. I have two left feet so not sure about the dancing but will since and definitely have some wine! 🍷

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Scout4answers in reply toDannyboy48

Sing a song , have a glass of wine and keep on dancing !!!

Yes!

in reply toDannyboy48

🙏🏼

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fmh1

July 11 will mark 4 years since my docetaxel chemo, and two years on Orgovyx; so far, no detectable PSA though they have identified two metastases on my spine. I understand your and your husband's journey, for our physical relationship has forever changed, but I too am blessed with an amazing, understanding wife of 24 years. We also have eleven wonderful grandchildren, another blessing from God, so I am grateful for every moment!

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Avanat in reply tofmh1

That’s great to hear you are still undetectable 4 years after chemo. I wish you many more years. Enjoy your time with you grandchildren.

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lincolnj8

Great post. I'm going on 7 years after having a PA of 850. Zytiga and prednisone combo.

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Avanat in reply tolincolnj8

It’s so encouraging to hear you are going on 7 years. I remember when my husband asked his doctors what his life expectancy was and they said the average for his condition (multiple Mets throughout his skeleton and also lymph nodes) was 4 years. His MO told him some men might go sooner and some may live well beyond that and so far, so good. I wish you many more years!

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lincolnj8 in reply toAvanat

Thank you..

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Tinuriel

Thanks for this, Avanat! We are on a similar path, 9 years in after RP and Gleason 9 and still asymptomatic, tho PSA is rising and going into deeper waters with the treatments for the mets on his bones. ADT all that time, but we have found that our love is stronger now. Praying for you both to continue to do well and stay close.

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Avanat in reply toTinuriel

Thank you for your good wishes. I wish you good luck on your husbands treatment and hope it send his PSA back to being undetectable. 🙏

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Channelhomec

God speed stay positive

Congratulations!

I too have a gem of a man, I just wish he were asymptomatic and undetectable too but I’ll take whatever time we have left

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Avanat in reply to

Thank you. We are lucky ladies to have great men to love. ❤️

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KocoPr

It brings happiness to my heart hearing from all of you advocates for my fellow warriors. Thank you for posting while everything is going smoothly, it shows how special you are to be thinking of us.

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Kapeman

wishing you and your husband continued good health. You beautifully expressed what I think of so often. Thank you.

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Want2no

Thank you for your letter. My husband has been on firmagon for a year now. I had no idea there was a pill form—no one told us.I, too, am hopeful that my husband has many years and moments to look forward to, and I completely understand what you mean when you say that your love story has been wonderful, but the love has grown even deeper. Bless you both.

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Hailwood

Beautiful story and it mirrors my journey so far, with 3 years on from a verbal diagnosis of "you have a 25% chance of living 5 years", but all of these numerical calculations are meadow muffins imo, as in my job as an RN working with severely challenged individuals coming out of large institutions, we were informed 32 years ago, that many people wouldn't live 6 months, but now I look at 85 year old men with cerebral palsy still enjoying life, because in the small homes they now live in, they are surrounded by love and have great motivation to enjoy life to its fullest.

]Dockam, you are so full of this motivation, and as I plan a holiday in Greece this year with my brother and a late summer riding around the NW with my nephew, brother in law and my beautiful wife on my Guzzis and Kawasakis, I have all the motivation needed to keep working to pay for all of this life that I cherish so much.

All of you men who survive and thrive are inspirations, and the partners who support them, such as my lovely wife, deserve medals. Thank you everyone

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E2-Guy

My ONLY form of ADT is estradiol gel which has been a miracle hormone for me for five years. I am totally asymptomatic.

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gsun

even though we were close before, this has made our love even deeper. I completely understand this as I am the same with my wife. She has always been the love of my life over the last 40 some years but this disease brings the important things to the forefront. She is my love, my best friend and my way of not losing my mind. As far as sex, there are ways and we have found our way. Find yours.

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Carlosbach

Thank you. Your post, and the replies, have buoyed my spirits this morning. My wife and I have been married 44 years. At diagnosis the tumor board estimated that I only had 18-24 months left (now at 30 months and in remission, yay!)

Since diagnosis my lovely wife and I have found a renewed love for each other. I hate the cancer, but I feel lucky to have had this opportunity to become closer to the woman I love. We're enjoying our lives, and are reveling in each other, despite the SE's and appointments.

Best wishes for your life together and for the QoL trips you have planned.

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j-o-h-n

2 more years? As the saying goes "he can do that standing on his head"......................that means that he can do 30 years standing on his feet..... Thanks for your post and keep on fighting those little buggers.....

(Tanava means something in Hinduism, Sanskrit, Marathi, Jainism, Prakrit, Hindi).

j-o-h-n <===<<< Senior management is about to spike my spikes....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 04/14/2023 12:33 PM DST

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Benkaymel

Lovely uplifting post. My one year anniversary of diagnosis with metastatic PCa was just yesterday and I too am blessed with the support of a loving wife and family that will hopefully carry me through many years with this horrible disease. Wishing you the best 🙏

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Izzygirl1

It's been a year for my husband and he is responding well also! Your post is very encouraging. May he do well for many many more years! ❤️ Enjoy your trips!!!

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HikerWife

Thank you Avanat, and ALL of you, for sharing these stories. My husband was Dx'd last November (stage IV, multiple mets, aggressive IDC-P cancer). We will be married 45 years this June. Today he had his first Docetaxel cycle (triplet, started other meds first for work reasons - and has had a wonderful response to ADT and abiraterone). It's been a scary few months, but we are settling in and finding our way. All of these stories are so heartening. They give me strength.

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Zengal79

Beautifully put. So glad your husband is responding well. Keep the good attitude and focus on what matters - LIVING. We are all leaving this rock eventually. You are lucky to have each other. May you have many more years of loving one another! Best wishes in the journey.

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inthefight

Very nice words. And so true. It's been just over two years for us. Holding steady for now and hopefully for a long time to come. Focusing on QOL and time spent together. After the initial shock and uncertainty it became quickly clear what was really important in live. Thankful for my hubby of 33 years. Proud of his bravery and positive attitude in fighting this disease. Wishing the best to all warriors.

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Lrv44221

Hello Avanat,

I just read this post and it was very inspiring. I’m not familiar with the drugs just the drama lol. I’m a nutritionist and have a small practice for women but I’m learning so much from all the men and women that share their stories.

I believe that if anyone can help another, it might just be here. I try to help the men as well as my husband through this site. I’m never sure how much people want a woman to talk about. I’m very happy for you and your husband’s healing

What do you believe specifically helped lower his psa?

Feel free to write to me any time 💜💜

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TwilightZone

Amen, Amen! Great news to hear!

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raoulmaher

How wonderful ! - kindest Raoul

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