alternative medical doctor MD

[lewicki]

I decided to see if an alternative doctor could advise and prescribe for helping to

control Pca cells in my blood from colonizing and creating problems. Recurrence. Presently I am > 0.1 from treatments at the university of Heidelberg. LU-177 and AC-225. He prescribed the following: Zinc, DHEA, Pregnenolone, DMG, MSM and Alpha Lipoic Acid. Asking group as to their thoughts. Thanks

[Tall_Allen]

Why would you take androgens? Seems insane to me.

[lewicki in reply to Tall_Allen]

I refused to buy them. The doctor wrote out the list . I went to buy what he recommended and walked out of his office. I for sure suspected not the way to go.

[4Rosebud in reply to lewicki]

nothing can cure prostate cancer there are ways to so it. Go investigate what those have been shown to do to see why..My philosophy is don't discount anything your life is on the line.If you look at western medicine they have made fortunes with no promise of a cure..Take your own path. There is no cure, only control it as long as you can.

I've choosen to die as health as possible...I'm sure its very difficult for you right now...get another opinion from another integrative and they will tell you something different. just keep that in mind. be care listening to those stuck on one side or the other.

[lewicki in reply to Tall_Allen]

Could it be I am low in these items as result of his blood tests and he is trying to get my body in tune ?

[Tall_Allen in reply to lewicki]

That's exactly what Zytiga does - prevents biosynthesis of those androgens. It is counterproductive to take them.

[Mascouche]

For the Alpha Lipoic Acid it should be under its R form (R-Lipoid) but those who recommend that metabolic approach typically also recommend taking Garcinia Cambogia as well.

[lewicki in reply to Mascouche]

Thanks . Doctors notes not clear as to being R form. Will check out G C.

[Hidden]

Zinc and Alpha Lipoic Acid ,I take both under advice from an alt MD . What about lycopene ? Tumeric? Melatonin? .. My point is that you’re doing great . I’ll try almost anything to rid my days of pc . Save yourself . Follow your own path . There are always doubting Thomas’s . It your life . Do as you choose . Although This is not a alt med sight . It’s Mostly concentrated here on SOC .

[lewicki in reply to Hidden]

Thanks. I mean to do so.

[Hidden in reply to lewicki]

Sometimes we need to throw any spaghetti at the wall. To see what sticks? Good luck friend.

[j-o-h-n in reply to Hidden]

I don't do that anymore.... Injured my tongue a few times licking the wall.....

(your I.D. seems familiar)...

Good luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 01/31/2021 7:31 PM EST

[Hidden in reply to j-o-h-n]

I’m on the Greek yogurt w/rice . Mmm

[j-o-h-n in reply to Hidden]

youtube.com/watch?v=5NuofNH...(Not working as expected?)

Now you're cooking try it with dark toast....

Good luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 01/31/2021 11:36 PM EST

[lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n]

Great stuff Thanks John. What was I doing when this was on the radio?

[j-o-h-n in reply to lewicki]

You were in the back seat of your 1957 chevy in a lover's lane.... Windows all fogged up and a huffin and a puffin...... And when you both were done you realized your car battery went dead from playing the radio....From that day on you always had a portable radio in the car......Ounce of prevention.....

Good luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 02/01/2021 2:46 PM EST

[lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n]

It was a grey 1957 Bel Air with the power pack option. Over by the gulf course. Watch out for the cops.

[j-o-h-n in reply to lewicki]

Great.... All Americn teenagers....mine was a 1951 Buick special...the young lady was the one who was power packed......

Cop once caught us and I told him "officer we were only necking" Cop said "okay put your neck back in your pants and get the hell outta here".....

Good luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 02/01/2021 4:22 PM EST

[lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n]

Good one .

[Twoofus in reply to j-o-h-n]

This happened to me once. 1964 Chevy and I stupidly left the lights on. Battery dead as shit.

[Hidden in reply to j-o-h-n]

Hey now!😎👍

[lewicki in reply to Hidden]

Hey now

[Drphil1938 in reply to j-o-h-n]

I heard you sprung your young trying to impress the girls by licking your ears.🍸🍸🤠

[lewicki in reply to Drphil1938]

Eyebrows also.

[j-o-h-n in reply to lewicki]

Don't forget licking the basement chandelier.......... wink wink

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Wednesday 02/03/2021 9:45 PM EST

[lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n]

Wink Wink

[MateoBeach]

If the strategy is to slow the progression of PC that is not yet CR then the Lipoic acid has some theoretical role as an intracellular antioxidant to decrease ROS from mitochondria causing more DNA mutations. This may be too speculative at this point to bother with. I do take it myself along with L-carnitine. Antioxidants are tricky business!Zinc along with a zinc ionophore to help it get into the cells is a fine idea. Quercetin is a naturally derived and safe zinc ionophore not as potent as clioquinol. Here is the principle and mechanism.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

[MateoBeach]

The others I would not touch.

[lewicki in reply to MateoBeach]

Thank you

[j-o-h-n]

Ask here for a recommendation for a new MO..........

Good luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 01/31/2021 7:34 PM EST

[Hidden]

Hey guy! I’ve spent $600 per month for six years now in March on nutrients . We eat mostly organic which is costly .. I had no sugar for almost two years on the onset of pc . The naturalpath believes sugar feeds all cancers . I agree . Some put me down for this . My docs are amazed that I’m clear still ?. Viva el dia ! We live for today . The more good stuff that we put I the better our chances to return to a better chemistry...My prayer to you is to overcome this beast . It’s a real mofo ...I don’t need to tell you this . You know it . We fight for our life with pc . D-3 , k-2 commonly taken together . Two products that I really like are Thorne Meriva 500-sf, it’s curcumin , and also QOL,immunokinko 750 = ahcc mushroom complex said to promote Nk( natural killer cells , some how I think these two are magical for me .. ? each to their own , follow pro advice on nutrients . Many MO s will poo poo them . Most mds don’t have much education in nutrition .. They are still in the dark . In my opinion . Save yourself anyway that you can . Make sure to strengthen your spiritual self . Let’s face it . The flesh is weak ,and weakened more by treatments . Our spiritual journey is actually more important than our physical demise . God bless🙏😷

[lewicki in reply to Hidden]

Good job. Can you send me your complete list of supplements?Thanks

[Hidden]

I’ve been off-line . Sorry for my delayed response .. I started 50 mg vitamin c ivs in 2015 -2016 bi-weekly upon dx .. I did petrosol c during imrt . I Stopped a few months afterwards .. Klaire labs ultra k2, rx vitamin liqui -d, eco Nugenics Hono Pure ,pure encapsulations Lycopene 20 mg . Pure encapsulations zinc 30 ..vital nutrients lipoic acid , progressive professional SAM e -200,Thorne Meriva 500-sf ,immunokinoko750 Ahcc . Naltrexone 4.5 mg before bd ,this requires a script from a compounding pharmacy .. for bone health =Thorne oscap,& vital nutrients Strontium . Lots of pure clean spring water .. Best to get an Nat md to tailor a plan to you . I also rely on a high. THC Canabis oil . This March is six years of the same .. Good luck to you 🙏 many of the standard care guys think it’s a farce . I’ve been clear of pc over five years . Will it last . Probably not . I’m hoping something else gets me before APC coms back around again for its dinner .

[lewicki in reply to Hidden]

Thanks LULU. Good luck in your battle.

[Hidden in reply to lewicki]

You as well ! We all need it brother . God bless 🙏