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To treat or not to treat: is it acceptable to avoid active therapies in advanced prostate cancer today?

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New Italian paper below [1]

"Introduction: Recently, there has been a paradigm shift in the treatment of advanced prostate cancer (PCa) because the approval of a number of new agents has significantly improved overall survival. However, as PCa is a heterogeneous disease that may be more or less aggressive and patients may be more or less responsive to treatment, it is often debated whether or not it is acceptable to avoid active therapies. Areas covered: This review discusses different settings of advanced PCa. Expert opinion: In metastatic castration-resistant PCa, it is unethical not to use active treatments but the use of both androgen receptor targeting agents (ARTA) in sequence should be avoided in most patients and the use of the available agents for fourth-line treatment or beyond should only be considered for highly selected patients. In metastatic hormone-sensitive PCa, patients with de novo disease should receive one additional agent in combination with androgen deprivation therapy (ADT), whereas patients in relapse should be managed with ADT alone. In non-metastatic castration-resistant prostate cancer (PCa), all patients with a PSA doubling time of ≤6 months should receive one ARTA, whereas the others might wait until there is an acceleration in the kinetics of their PSA levels."

-Patrick

[1] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/332...

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"2. mHSPCa

A number of systemic agents are currently available for the treatment of mHSPCa [19], and the results of two [4, 5] out of three randomised controlled trials (RCTs) [4, 5, 6] have shown that the addition of docetaxel to ADT significantly improved OS in men with mHSPCa. Meta-analyses of these studies have shown that this treatment leads to a 9% absolute improvement in 4-year survival (95% CI 5-14%) [20, 21]. Similarly, two phase III RCTs have shown that adding abiraterone to ADT also significantly improves OS in men with mHSPCa [7, 8], and meta-analysis of these studies have found that the absolute improvement in 3-year survival is 14% [22]. Furthermore, two more recent phase III RCTs have shown that adding enzalutamide [9] or apalutamide [14] to ADT improves OS in comparison with ADT alone.

However, the lack of head-to-head comparisons of docetaxel and ARTAs in this setting raises questions as to how to identify the patients with a better prognosis who can avoid treatment intensification, and whether chemotherapy or ARTAs should be added to ADT for those who are likely to have a poorer outcome [23]. The answers to such questions need to take into account trial endpoints, disease and patient characteristics, and drug safety profiles.

2.1 Survival benefit in published trials (Table 1)

The results of all of the trials except GETUG-AFU 15 [6] show a meaningful improvement in median OS and a similar reduction in risk. An indirect comparison of abiraterone-ADT and docetaxel-ADT demonstrated no statistically significant difference in OS (HR 0.84; 95%CI 0.67-1.06) [24], and comparison of the abiraterone- ADT and docetaxel-ADT arms of the STAMPEDE trial also showed no difference in OS (HR 1.16; 95%CI 0.82- 1.65), although abiraterone-ADT was better in terms of failure-free survival (FFS: HR 0.51; 95%CI 0.39-0.67) and progression-free survival (PFS: HR 0.65; 95%CI 0.48-0.88) [25]. Furthermore, the results of a recent network meta-analysis that indirectly compared the efficacy of ARTAs and docetaxel in patients with mHSPCa showed no difference in terms of OS (HR 0.89; 95%CI 0.76-1.05) [26].

This evidence of improved life expectancy does not support avoiding the addition of docetaxel or ARTAs to

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ADT in mHSPCa patients.

2.2 Disease-related factors for decision making

Two main factors should be considered when defining the risk/benefit ratio of adding docetaxel or ARTAs to ADT in the treatment of mHSPCa: disease volume/risk, and the timing of the onset of metastases.

It seems that the benefit of adding docetaxel/ARTAs to ADT is not the same in all mHSPCa patients. Previous studies have identified a high metastatic burden and de novo metastatic disease as poor prognostic factors associated with shorter survival [27, 28]. The CHAARTED trial first introduced high- volume disease (the presence of visceral metastases or ≥4 bone lesions with at least one beyond the spine

confirmed that docetaxel leads to a survival advantage in men with high-volume disease (HR 0.63; 95%CI 0.50-0.79; p<0.001) and de novo metastatic disease (HR 0.63, 95%CI; 0.49-0.81; p<0.001), but not those with high-volume disease relapsing after local radical treatment (HR 0.72, 95%CI 0.36-0.46; p=0.37). There was also no reduction in the risk of death in the case of patients with low-volume disease as a whole (HR 1.04, 95%CI; 0.70-1.56) regardless of whether they had de novo metastatic disease (HR 0.86, 95%CI 0.52- 1.42; p=0.55) or relapsed metastatic disease (HR 1.25, 95%CI; 0.60-2.60; p=0.55) [29].

Given the uncertain benefit of upfront docetaxel in patients with low-volume mHSPCa observed in the CHAARTED trial, the GETUG AFU 15 [30] and STAMPEDE trials [31] have been assessed on the basis of patient outcomes by disease volume. A meta-analysis of aggregate data retrieved from the CHAARTED and GETUG AFU 15 trials concerning the use of of early docetaxel in mHSPCa patients by disease volume and the timing of the occurrence of metastatic disease (de novo or relapsed) [32] has shown that docetaxel significantly improved OS in the high-volume subgroup (HR 0.68, 95%CI 0.56-0.82; p <0.001), but not in the low-volume subgroup (HR 1.03, 95%CI 0.77-1.38; p=0.8). Moreover, docetaxel significantly improved OS in patients with high-volume disease and de novo metastatic disease (HR 0.67, 95%CI 0.55-0.83), but not in those with low-volume disease regardless of whether their metastatic disease was de novo (HR 1, 95%CI 0.70-1.44) or had relapsed after local treatment (HR 1.12, 95%CI 0.66 -1.90).

and pelvis) as a stratification factor for randomisation

[4], and the updated results of the CHAARTED trial

However, the updated analysis of the docetaxel arm of the STAMPEDE trial did not find any evidence of an

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interaction between the low- and high-volume subgroups [31], although a pooled analysis of the OS HRs of the CHAARTED, GETUG-AFU-15 and STAMPEDE trials has shown that the benefit of adding docetaxel to ADT is uncertain in low-volume patients with mHSPCa (HR 0.91, 95%CI 0.73-1.13; p=0.41)[33].

These conflicting results are probably due to the heterogeneity of the populations enrolled in the trials in terms of the timing of metastases (94% of the patients in the STAMPEDE trial had de novo metastases against 75% in the CHAARTED and GETUG AFU 15 trials), the length of the follow-up, and the availability of life-prolonging agents after treatment failure (given the different years in which the studies were conducted). Nevertheless, on the basis of the findings, it is possible that de novo high-volume metastatic disease is more aggressive and more likely to benefit from treatment intensification by combining ADT and docetaxel, whereas the course of low-volume disease should be indolent and lead to better outcomes regardless of the timing of the onset of metastases, in which case it may be reasonable to avoid chemotherapy and propose docetaxel at the time of castration resistance.

A number of the clinical features of mHSPCa have been evaluated in an attempt to identify subgroups of patients who may benefit more from treatment intensification. The patients in the GETUG AFU 15 trial were stratified into three risk groups (good, intermediate and poor) on the basis of the Glass prognostic model, which includes the sites of bone lesions, Gleason score, PSA levels, and performance status [34], but the effect of docetaxel was not different in the three groups. A post hoc analysis of the GETUG AFU 15 trial has shown that the level of alkaline phosphatase (ALP), Gleason score, and the presence of symptomatic disease are strongly associated with survival [35] but, although the prognostic value of ALP was greater than that of the Glass prognostic model (C-index 0.59, 95% CI 0.52-0.66), it is not useful for discriminating patients with a better prognosis who can avoid treatment intensification with docetaxel.

The LATITUDE trial enrolled only de novo mHSPCa patients with “high-risk” disease, which was defined as the presence of at least two of visceral metastases, ≥3 bone lesions, a Gleason score of ≥8 [8].

The abiraterone arm of the STAMPEDE trial enrolled only 4% of relapsing mHSPCa patients [7]. A recent analysis has shown that the addition of abiraterone to ADT improved OS in mHSPCa irrespective of risk stratification [36] but, as the benefit of adding abiraterone to ADT in patients with relapsed metastatic HSPCa is uncertain, it may be possible to to avoid abiraterone in such patients.

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Disease volume was one of the stratification criteria of the ENZAMET trial, which assessed the efficacy of adding enzalutamide to ADT [9]. Given the results of the CHAARTED trial, the previous use of docetaxel was allowed. Subgroup analysis showed that the beneficial effect of enzalutamide on OS was less in patients with high-volume disease (HR 0.80, 95%CI 0.59-1.07) than in those with low-volume disease (HR 0.43, 95%CI 0.26-0.72). However, the trial was not powered to detect an OS advantage in these subgroups, and the results in the patients with high-volume disease may have been negatively influenced by the administration of docetaxel in this setting (HR 0.90, 95%CI 0.62–1.31). Likewise, the TITAN trial assessed the efficacy of apalutamide in mHSPCa patients stratified by the previous use of docetaxel using a pre- specified analysis of data from patients with low- or high-volume disease [11]. The results of this trial confirmed that the use of apalutamide led to less benefit in terms of OS in the patients previously treated with docetaxel (HR 0.47, 95%CI 0.22–1.01), and no interaction was observed between the low- and high- volume subgroups.

Neither ENZAMET nor TITAN provide any evidence suggesting the possibility of avoiding the use of enzalutamide or apalutamide in some mHSPCa patients on the basis of disease volume. However, no data supported the use of docetaxel and one ARTA and this strategy should not be recommended in everyday clinical practice outside a clinical trial. In particular, on subgroup analysis on ENZAMET there was no additional benefit of giving enzalutamide in patients who had received docetaxel in the hormone-sensitive setting [9].

Further debate concerning mHSPCa treatment strategies has recently been prompted by studies assessing the role of radical radiotherapy. In the STAMPEDE trial, the combination of radiotherapy of the primary tumour and standard of care (SOC) improved FFS (HR 0.76, 95%CI 0.68-0.84; p<0·0001) but not OS (HR 0.92, 95%CI 0.80-1.06; p=0.266) in an unselected mHSPCa population [37]. However, a pre-specified subgroup analysis based on metastatic burden at the time of presentation showed that the addition of radiotherapy significantly improved OS in the patients with a low metastatic burden (HR 0.68, 95%CI 0.52- 0.90), but not in those with a high metastatic burden (HR 1.07, 95%CI 0.90-1.28; p=0·420). Furthermore, the HORRAD trial has confirmed that radiotherapy of the primary tumour plus ADT did not significantly modify OS in comparison with ADT alone (HR 0.90, 95%CI 0.70- 1.14; p=0.4) [38].

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A meta-analysis of these trials has shown that the combination of radiotherapy and SOC improves OS in mHSPCa patients with low-volume disease (HR 0.73, 95%CI 0.58-0.92; p=0.0071) but not in those with high- volume disease (HR 1.07, 95%CI 0.92-1.26; p=0.37) [39], thus supporting the avoidance of local tumour radiotherapy in the latter.

The results of the ongoing randomised phase III PEACE-1 trial (NCT01957436) are awaited to address the question as to whether the addition of abiraterone to radiotherapy and SOC leads to any further benefit. Emerging data concerning metastasis-directed therapy (MDT) in patients with oligometastatic disease (defined as the presence of ≤3 metastases in relapsing or de novo mHSPCa patients) will open up new therapeutic scenarios. The small phase II STOMP trial showed that MDT prolonged median ADT-free survival in comparison with surveillance in patients with oligometastatic mHSPCa (HR 0.60, 80%CI 0.40- 0.90; p=0.37) [40], and this finding has recently been confirmed by the randomised phase II ORIOLE trial [41] in which an MDT-based approach significantly improved median 6-month progression in comparison with surveillance (HR 0.30, 95%CI 0.11-0.81; p = 0.002). Although the small sample sizes, the use of conventional imaging to define oligometastatic patterns, and the choice of surveillance instead of ADT limit the application of MDT in everyday clinical practice, these randomised clinical trials suggest that MDT may delay the use of systemic treatments in this subset of patients.

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Great study and sensible recommendations. The zeal with which multiple treatments are pushed worries me as we now know that if the system is pressured into a severe androgen deprived state continuously ,the risk of early emergence of Castration resistant and worse Neuro endocrine differentiation gets bigger. New studies are now indicating the prevalence of treatment emergent Neuro-Endocrine prostate cancer is rising and is in 20 to 30% range.

Last time when I brought subject of resistance and NE differentiation, some people went ballistic. More and more evidence is going to quiet these people in future.

This following study describes this subject in detail:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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pjoshea13 in reply to LearnAll

Ah, yes, 'ballistic' - life is difficult enough. We would all prefer to be doing something else. Typically, I contribute info from PubMed rather than opinion. But when the topic is a supplement one is labeled a 'blowhard'. Fortunately, the few do not stifle all discussion.

Best, -Patrick

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LearnAll in reply to pjoshea13

I can relate fully. I have been attacked by salesmen just by raising possibilities based on research published and available on pubmed. We have a lot at stake and so we do have right to know all truth not just the SOC "truth" . Patrick, I really appreciate you bringing broad range of studies of possibilities to keep us away from the "tunnel vision" salesman wants us to stay in.

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MateoBeach in reply to LearnAll

The NEPC article is very good. Thanks! Did you find a link to the full text "To Treat or Not to Treat . ." review article that doesn't cost $90?

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LearnAll in reply to MateoBeach

Not yet. Whatevr they say..I am convinsed that heavy ADT for long term does accelerate NeuroEndocrine variant. Speed of differentiation may vary from men to men. Some men may never develop NE.

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cesces

This doesn't make sense to me.

Can someone explain the logic?

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pjoshea13 in reply to cesces

When I was diagnosed in 2004, such a paper could not have appeared - there were so few options. Nowadays we have a confusion of choices, combinations & sequences. & then there is oligometastatic PCa, which might sometimes be treated curatively - although some insist that mets means one must be on continuous ADT forever.

We still read that 5-year survival for metastatic PCa is only 29%. While it might be tempting to "hit it hard" & "throw everything at it" as some here suggest, none of the new treatments are curative. Ultimately, what matters to me is overall survival.

I'm not about to be put on Lupron+Abiraterone, say, just because that is the standard for the practice. As the paper says, one should look at the individual, & sometimes active surveilance might be non-inferior, & with a better QoL.

The importance of the paper, IMO, is that men here might get a better handle on the sensible options for their condition & break away from cookie-cutter treatment. The full paper is worth reading.

-Patrick

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LearnAll in reply to cesces

Cesces...Let me give you the bottom line. Prostate cancer aggressiveness varies from man to man. There are slow growing, indolent types who do not need aggressive upfront therapy. They will do fine with sequential one by one treatment if they are responding well. The sellers want you to believe that every man's cancer is very aggressive and all of the men need many treatment upfront. Seller is doing a great job of selling ...in fact overselling his products.. whether you need it or not. Just like. .Mc Donald's selling you a huge Mac, with lots of fries and a big glass of soda even if you only need a small burger with a cup of tea.

Treatment should be tailor made on case by case basis.. and that is fine dining !

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paige20180 in reply to LearnAll

Appreciate this post.

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SteveWife in reply to cesces

Thanks for asking this question, Cesces. I'm lost and the explanation from LearnAll is helpful.

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treedown

This is the kind of info that has made me wonder if I should be on Aberiterone since 8 months ago. They took me off during radiation when my lymphocyte count dropped and I wondered then if I should have just stayed off of it. I hit undetectable when not on it and even NCCN Guidelines shows it one of like 4 options. They were originally going to put me on Lupron only then the Dr from the Center of Excellence who was also my out of pocket 2nd opinion talked them into adding Zytiga.

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tango65

Thanks Patrick. People should keep in mind the clinical conditions where docetaxel provides an overall survival advantage. The clinical situations are well expressed in this article. It is effective in de novo large volume disease and it does not offer a survival advantage in other clinical situations.

People in this group are very cavalier in suggesting docetaxel with ADT as a first choice of treatment . One must remember than chemo can cause peripheral neuropathy which could be a life changing event particularly when is a mixture of sensorial and motor neuropathy.

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V10fanatic in reply to tango65

Especially when one is already suffering from neuropathy as a result of some earlier radiation.

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tango65 in reply to V10fanatic

That is quite correct. Previous neuropathy is considered a contraindication to treat with chemo.

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2dee

It seems to me that PSA doubling time should be the first measure to determine whether you stick with active surveilance or choose the latest SOC. Yes there are side effects to any choice you make. It's just a personal dance for each of us to judge our choices as we go against OUR quality of life.

2Dee

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podsart

Never saw any differential analytical method that would help create a probabilistic projection based on: type of treatment, dose of treatment, multiplicative effect of using simultaneous treatments, etc on development of neuroendocrine type Pca , would really be helpful. To say rate has now approached 30% is scary but hard to use in a real treatment guidance sense.

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Wings-of-Eagles

Thats a lot of info to digest, Thanks for that. That is a lot to look at. However ,for me, no one will make me believe Zytiga plus Lupron was not the right chioce for me in 2014 to present...the past six years have been undetectable. (Stopped Lupron inn2017)

BTW LearnAll.,who are those notorious "sellers'" Big Pharma?

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6357axbz in reply to Wings-of-Eagles

What are your specifics? Metastatic at dx?Where are your mets? Gleason score?

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Wings-of-Eagles in reply to 6357axbz

Stage 4 ,PSA 71.2 at Dx , 4 pronounced mets, femur, pelvis ribs(2) Gl score 4+3 80% and some 3+4

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6357axbz in reply to Wings-of-Eagles

It’s encouraging to hear that with a similar dx to mine you have done extraordinarily well with lupron and zytiga. My July 2018 dx showed Gleason was 8 and 3 mets, 2 ribs and I pelvis. Did you have either surgery or radiation to the prostate?

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LearnAll in reply to Wings-of-Eagles

Lets keep that secret..open secret.😀

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GreenStreet

Great article Patrick. Thanks for posting

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MateoBeach

Want to dig into the specifics in this review more. Do you have a free full-text link? Thanks for sharing this. Paul

I stopped ADT and all conventional therapies in early 2017 and so far I'm glad I made that decision.

Since mid 2017 my life has been back to normal, but I dread the day when I might have to go back on ADT. Hopefully that won't be for a long time as my latest PSA was close to what it was when first diagnosed in December 2016 and my 2020 psma pet scan shows a marked improvement over my 2016 psma pet scan.

Good luck to all.

Dave.

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