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My Last Lupron Shot (maybe ever!)

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This week I received my 4th and last 6 month Lupron Shot. Will it be my last?

My PC Background:

RP in June 2011, PSA 7.9, Gleason 4+3, Tumor PT2C.

Post RP PSA undetectable

1st Recurrence 06/2015 with 0.4 PSA 48 months after RP.

IMRT Prostate Bed Radiation completed 09/2015. Post Radiation PSA <0.1.

2nd Recurrence with PSA: 0.4 on 1/2019 - 0.4.

PSMA Scan at NIH 12/18 found PCa in 1 pelvic iliac node. Biopsy 01/19 positive for PCa in pelvic node.

IMRT Pelvic Radiation completed June 2019.

ADT started: 02/2019

"Color" Genome Test taken in 11/2018 with no genetic abnormalities found.

PSA currently undetectable (<0.1)

All comments welcome!

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Moespy in reply to

Must be realistic about these things but for now a Boy Can Have Hope!!

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Keep hope alive Moespy!! Stay in the undetectable mode again for many years. APC is a long winded bastardo! ..,Good luck brother.💪

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Moespy in reply to

Thank you Whimpy-p, always nice to hear from you!

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Take care friend!✌️

in reply to Moespy

I was told shots for life . I did 18 months and off with the juevos . 4 yrs no shots . A lot of joint paint and djd .

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kmack57

I’m betting on you, no more PCA for you!!

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Moespy in reply to kmack57

I'm betting on you too brother!

Thanks!

in reply to Moespy

Let’s make it a tri-fecta!☝️

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Ahk1

I will pray to be the last PC shot for you ever. And if it’s not, then you will be like Waren Buffet. He was 90 yesterday I think and he had PC when he was 80 so I guess if you get another shot when you are 90, you wouldn’t mind :-). congratulations on the undectable psa.

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Moespy in reply to Ahk1

Thank you my friend; you are a very kind man! Hope all is well with you.

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😂😂

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SPEEDYX

For sure🙏

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Moespy in reply to SPEEDYX

Thank you SPEEDYX! Best wishes to you!

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Tall_Allen

I hope you're cured. 🤞

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Moespy in reply to Tall_Allen

Thank you Allen! You have helped me so much in this journey!

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JamesAtlanta

Congratulations on your wonderful results! Praying you are cured! 🙏

Best wishes,

James

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Moespy in reply to JamesAtlanta

Thank you so much James! Hope all is well.

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GreenStreet

I hope so. Good luck to you and best wishes.

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Moespy in reply to GreenStreet

Thanks Green Street! It's a lot to ask for Lupron to clean up all of those micro mets but that's the plan!

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GreenStreet in reply to Moespy

Well I really hope it does. I might end up in a similar position if I am lucky enough. I have had three PSA rises post SRT to prostate bed following RP. PSA is still c 0.05 but with next test later this month. I am hoping for a lymph node so that I can have another go via radiation and ADT combo but in truth I don’t know where it is and need PSA to rise before it has a chance to be detected. Anyhow I really keep my fingers crossed for you and hope it works out. Good luck!

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Moespy in reply to GreenStreet

Same to you! I will be following your progress and wish you the Best!

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dublin1717

I’ll say a prayer for you it’s the last one you need and that you will stay undetectable now and live for many years. ☘️

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Moespy in reply to dublin1717

Thank you my Irish PCa Brother!

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pleinairpainter

Sounds good, wishing you the best!

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Moespy in reply to pleinairpainter

Thank you sir!

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Chadsdad

Looks like a success story to me . I wish you well and have enjoyed our conversations. May God continue to bless you.

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Moespy in reply to Chadsdad

Same here and may God Bless you Too! I look forward to our shared updates and success stories! Thanks!

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MateoBeach

Go forth and live! We are all pulling for you.

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Moespy in reply to MateoBeach

Thank You Brother!

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Bethpage

I devoutly hope it's your last, Moespy. Fingers crossed for you!

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Moespy in reply to Bethpage

Thank You so much!

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Horse12888

Well, not that this tells you anything you don't know, but as your T rises, your PSA will either rise or it won't. I'm hoping for the best. In fact (as my doctor told me), "I'm going with 'you're cured.'"

If it *does* comes back, there are ADT regimens that don't carry the full impact of continuous Lupron. You may want to Google tE2, bipolar ADT, IADT, Axumin scan, and Relugolix.

If you can kick the can down the road long enough, there will be other technologies coming along as well.

in reply to Horse12888

Exactly! We are all trying to kick this rusty can down the bumpy road .🥫

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Horse12888 in reply to

My oncologist pointed out to me that this is what we're all doing, starting with the moment of our births.

in reply to Horse12888

An onco has a unique view of this? We buy time if we are lucky. The important thing is to live for today . Like the warriors creed . Eat drink and be merry , for tomorrow we face war . At least you are on horseback .,I’m on foot with a shield . Be well the “ man called horse” a favorite movie as a kid . Take care dear Sir... pluck the day ! 🙏✌️

It’s nil now . Enjoy that !😎🤙🏽

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Moespy in reply to

I am my friend and Thank you!

in reply to Moespy

Get in ,and stay in here, with the rest of us undetectables.

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j-o-h-n

You'll miss the nurses....... No mo espy (congrats)

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 09/04/2020 5:20 PM DST

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Moespy in reply to j-o-h-n

Thanks J-O-H-N!!

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RonnyBaby

Predictions in the case of PCa, is like rolling the dice for many of us.

Your history is not something I would gamble on, but time has shown that you keep beating it back.

The good news - you are a survivor and have responded to varied forms of treatment.

Hopefully, you have beaten the beast into submission ....

Wishing you well on your journey.

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Moespy in reply to RonnyBaby

Thank you Ron! I would not have posted this except for the PSMA Scan showing after my 2nd recurrence only one iliac pelvic lymph node lit up. After radiation of the entire pelvic region and Lupron for 2 years the "theory" is "maybe" it's gone. I am realistic but like your observation my road has been much less rocky than others. I am prepared to take on the beast again as needed. Best wishes!

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RonnyBaby

I was node positive and I'm hoping that they can find some lymph node(s) on more sensitive scans as being the culprits for the rise.

I still have room for more RT in that area.

They could use RT again to zap the bastards ....

At least, that would be better than a wider spread that is hard(er) to find and treat.

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Moespy in reply to RonnyBaby

Have you had or looked into a PSMA Scan? That PSMA scan through a trial at NIH changed my treatment plan because we actually found something to treat.

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RonnyBaby

I hope that this scan will be on the agenda.

I see my MO in about 1 week.

We will be discussing my BCR - but a very brief conversation during my last 'telephone visit' suggested that there might be some 'activity' in the pelvic area that might be zapped.

WE hope / suspect that a few lymph nodes have grown since my initial Dx and treatments.

I had some initial pelvic hot spots, so it makes sense to think that this might be the area that has triggered the BCR.

My last Lupron shot was in July of 2018. I don't want any more Lupron - it drove me NUTZ !

A more sensitive scan makes sense, seeing as my PSA is probably about 4.0 (was 3.2 a few weeks ago).

I'm not driving the agenda right now, but I believe the 'right options' will be on the table for discussion and hopefully, an action plan.

I might be a Zytiga / RT candidate - I used to think I could be migrate to a bicalutamide mono-therapy, but that is not SOC in my country - so that might be unlikely.

I'm fortunate enough to have access to a center of excellence.

I appreciate the suggestion / feedback ....

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Moespy in reply to RonnyBaby

I hope your provider will allow the scan and you can pinpoint your treatment. You have done your homework and that I believe is a great confidence builder. Good luck and best wishes for your treatments and outcomes!

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RonnyBaby

There was mention in your original (un-edited) response to me, of a PSA reading greater than 5.0. to 'qualify' for the scan. On this page, that reference is gone. Can I assume that you removed that portion ?

If 5.0 is something you stand by, where did that come from ?

Either way, I expect to get past 5.0 in a short period of time because my PSA rate of change is nearly doubled every 3 months.

Thanks for your best wishes .....

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Moespy in reply to RonnyBaby

It was suppose to be 0.5 but after reading it found it not to be germane to our discussion so deleted the sentence. I will look forward to hearing good news on this board in your upcoming posts.

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RonnyBaby

YES to 0.5 .....

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TEBozo

Congratulations!

Maybe Moespy ? Just remember some men have used Lupron for 12 yrs or more . Lupron sucks as does all adt . They deplete us . IMO most damage is done in the first two year . Then extended damages with extended use of adt . Maybe ,you can take a break .? No one has suggested it for me . Watch that Psa . Many MO ‘s will stay the course on adt until it fails. Being undetectable is good for us . Stay under the radar .

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