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today’s announcement of Pharma being added to US tarrifs

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For those of us that are in US, a potentially significant Pharma tariff was just announced by Pres Trump.

As you know many of the Pca meds we take are not made in the US, including, I believe, the ones I take: relugolix and daralutamide. I anticipate the typical response of: ask your dr for potential alternatives. For many of us the alternatives would be less effective or not work. In my case I failed on xtandi and erleada.

Also, what about psma scans and treatments? Will we be affected by this tariff for this key process for our advanced Pca case?

The enormous cost of these drugs ,especially as many are taken monthly, potentially for years, would be crippling.

There may be some very wealthy members in our group that can cover these costs, but most would not be able to sustain such an enormous cost drain.

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petabyte profile image
petabyte

I was wondering about this as well. Do you know where your drugs are made - I guess a lot come from India? Could probably be made in the US as well but may take time to start up.

I know Darolutamide was Finnish but I guess it is the country of manufacturing that counts.

My Orgovyx and Abiraterone both come from Poland (same manufacturer)

podsart profile image
podsart in reply topetabyte

Yes, it’s confusing, as to where materials come from, where the manufacturing takes place and then assembly, is there any US component.

tarhoosier profile image
tarhoosier

He has "paused" many tariffs. As of 15 minutes.

podsart profile image
podsart

yes, let’s see what happens ‘

wonder how much the huge Chinese tariff flows through the pharmaceuticals to our key meds

Still_in_shock profile image
Still_in_shock

Another ploy at insider trading for his friends to buy on the crash and sell on the rise as today.

Also, it wont go anywhere. Hell back down just as he did with tarrifs, no one is pleading him to back off. Big Pharma will just pass the cost along.

podsart profile image
podsart in reply toStill_in_shock

Big Pharma passing cost along --yes that isnt a good thing for us either

petabyte profile image
petabyte in reply toStill_in_shock

We should try to avoid political stuff. It will get the thread blocked.

nativegardens profile image
nativegardens in reply topetabyte

Yes, please. Keep political rage out of this supportive place.

CountryJoe profile image
CountryJoe in reply tonativegardens

Respectful political debate has to have a place on this site , especially when it concerns life or death issues for all of us. The challenge is to focus on the facts!!!!

carbide profile image
carbide in reply topetabyte

This is not political! this action by Trump will take people's lives.

podsart profile image
podsart

understand; just that for people in my boat for med costs it can be a disaster

anonymoose2 profile image
anonymoose2

Anyone buy on the Dip? 2008, Covid , and now Tariffs.

Turmoil is always an opportunity.

dhccpa profile image
dhccpa in reply toanonymoose2

Agreed. It helps to have excellent advance info, which most of us don't have.

anonymoose2 profile image
anonymoose2 in reply todhccpa

Those dinners with Nancy Pelosi must be helpful. 🤭😉

dhccpa profile image
dhccpa in reply toanonymoose2

I was so swept away by her charisma that I failed to absorb her stock tips. She worked them in so subtly!

Cenerus profile image
Cenerus

I looked into this and it appears to be a brand new tariff that is not part of the existing tariffs that have been in the news the past week or so. I'm not sure what the benefit of this one is as the harm probably outweighs the gains which wouldn't be realized for years.

Oblivious1 profile image
Oblivious1

It is insane to apply tariffs in this case and make what is already difficult for many worse. It truly makes me sad to see wealthy people cutting out measures that are so important to people who are less well off. Hopefully like many things, he will change his mind. One person should not have the power to do this and wreak havoc for everyone in the world!

Professorgary profile image
Professorgary

At present, as far as I know, the $2000 cap on seniors is still in place. Honestly maybe we should be pushing for that to be expanded to all.

Pinkyboy profile image
Pinkyboy in reply toProfessorgary

So the insurance companies will see higher expenses… you think that will all be “free” to the insured? C’mon….

We are living in Idiocracy (just watch the old movie).

Conlig1940 profile image
Conlig1940

carbide : From Canada - Not the 51st State . Elections have consequences - American's voted him in with a massive majority .

CountryJoe profile image
CountryJoe in reply toConlig1940

That's a sad comment on US society.

Skippy3 profile image
Skippy3 in reply toCountryJoe

You mean sobriety.

MNFarmBoy profile image
MNFarmBoy in reply toConlig1940

Actually, Donald Trump received 49.8% of the votes in the 2024 election, just short of a majority, but a 1.48 %pts margin; decisive, but less than what most would consider massive. Both are slightly less than Jimmy Carter in 1980 (50.08% of the votes, thus a majority, 2.06 %pt margin) and slightly more than John Kennedy in 1960 (49.72% of the votes & 0.17 %pt margin).

Ref: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...

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Conlig1940 in reply toMNFarmBoy

MNFarmBoy Actually I was referring to the number of states he won , and his performance in particular in the key , must win states . Florida , Michigan , Ohio , Pennsylvania etc . which he swept .

MNFarmBoy profile image
MNFarmBoy in reply toConlig1940

Trump's 57.99 % of the 2024 electoral college vote is indeed more impressive, the largest % since Barack Obama's 61.71% in 2016, and a whole 1.11 %pts greater than Biden's 56.88%.

maley2711 profile image
maley2711 in reply toConlig1940

<50% a massive majority...really?

SpencerBoy11 profile image
SpencerBoy11

Currently watching this all unfold on TV on additonal drug shortages regardless of tariffs.

fast_eddie profile image
fast_eddie

I know what the intent is. We are too dependent on China for either the pharmaceuticals or the basic materials to produce these drugs. Trump is trying to bring this production back to the US. Maybe India could pick up the slack in the mean time? No easy, pain-free answers. Have to wonder why US companies were so eager to outsource this.

maley2711 profile image
maley2711 in reply tofast_eddie

of course...costs!!

Pinkyboy profile image
Pinkyboy

Ages ago, I ran large manufacturing companies in USA, Mexico, Canada, and England. I assure you the present administration has absolutely no idea what it takes to “bring production back to the US.” This display of ignorance and incompetence is breathtaking.

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rickyfish56

Please keep Political bias out of this forum. I could go on and on how the previous Administration is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans by allowing unlimited amounts of fentanl to flood the country, and many other totally insane hate filled decisions they made ( requiring COVID vaccines for Americans while allowing Millions of invaders in with no health screening at all).

But that is not what this forum is for, so please, keep it politically neutral, and lets concentrate on fighting this terrible disease, treatment options, and supporting each other even if we have political differences.

maley2711 profile image
maley2711 in reply torickyfish56

OK, you gave us your political opinion and so we'll just shut up???

Pinkyboy profile image
Pinkyboy in reply torickyfish56

Oh for God’s sake. Enough of the “what about” nonsense. This is NOT political, it’s life and death, hope vs. worry, reality vs. “talking points.”

podsart profile image
podsart

I naively didnt think my question would trigger a political debate

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