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The Survival Rate of Metastatic and Advanced Prostate Cancer

Metastatic prostate cancer survival rate is determined by many factors, such as the overall condition of the patient and also the location where the cancer metastasized. Prostate cancer is actually highly treatable as long as it is found early. When prostate cancer is diagnosed in early stage (Stage 1 or 2), the 5-year survival rate is close to 100%. Even when the cancer has reach Stage 3 and it has metastasized to nearby organs, the survival rate is still nearly 100%. It means, prostate cancer is highly treatable as long as it is found early.

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Well according to the article my husband is past his Stage 4 lung Mets survival estimate by several months.

27 months ago his MO gave him 5-8 years based on staging of mets so I would rather go with that estimate.

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I am with you. I was found to have lung mets in Feb. and I am shooting for at least 6 yrs. We have to stay positive.

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My advice is don't stay positive.

Don't stay negative.

Stay accurate.

Attitude or "being positive" has no effect on survival.

Being realistic and avoiding the toxicity of unreasonable hope improves quality of life.

Exercise has proven benefits in improving quality of life and some evidence of life lengthening.

There is a stack of data to support this.

Supplements make the sellers rich and the victims of their obscene marketing poor.

We only hear from the patients who are alive and spouting what worked for them.

When it does not work we don't hear from those men for obvious reasons.

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I think “accurate” is what I strive for but I have always felt doubt in the heavy decision making required for pCa treatments.

The power of positive thinking is what sells.

As far as spouting what works for folks, I guess that’s why I am thrilled with this website and group of sharing people.

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Ok don’t stay positive or negative, be accurate, be realistic. Each to thier own . Stay true to your beliefs.. I know that I’ don’t have all of the answers in life. I’m searching. Reality, what a concept.. our Reality is what our perception tells us it is. If someone believes that the blue footed booby is sacred , then to them it is. We all use different coping mechanisms.. Mine are prayer and belief in something bigger and better than my limited human knowledge. The flesh is weak. Time to build the spirit. Freedom to choose your own path is an inalienable right. I take nutrients, I exercise( #1) we all fight the same declination of our resources and health. Ive suffered depression with APC and before .but normally I’ve been an optimist. I believe in everything I’m doing . I’m sure that you believe in what you are doing. . I respect your opinion. I’m on the other side of the coin. Positive thinking and imaging along with prayer and meditation all can make good things happen.. scientist ,atheist,we are all human. All entitled to our own beliefs... attitude and gratitude are my beliefs... over optimism is a thinking error, I agree but for me life without hope is a dismal thought. Peace to you...

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LulU, very good thoughts. Defeatism will not save anyone. I look forward to fighting the beast. I will win by something else, that will kill me. I just have to live long enough, for that to happen.

Rich

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APC Our mutual internal asailent Loves ..self defeat and depression because these feelings promote bad hormones that limit healing.My opinion. My point of being on this forum is to give hope to those newly dx and all that are suffering . I also recieve more than I give. You are supportive to others. Including me .Spring time here in the desert Southwest .. Hope it good or soon to be good we’re you reside. 🌅

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Lulu,

I could not have written our mutual beliefs better then your comments. I hope, we will have many years ahead of reading our future comments. I am blessed.

God Bless,

Rich

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Me too.. finding contentment along the way is key...Take care..

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Positivity feeds back on the immune system, bad thoughts, and stress have the opposite effect,IMO. I believe prayers and hope are the reasons I am still here.

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Me too. You are doing well...

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Hope he continues to break the mold... we are not statistics....enjoy this weekend.....

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LuLu You reflect my feelings exactly, great reply and let Mr accurate...stay that way and believe that way, it is what it is for him..but for me and my beliefs I will stay positive!

Stage 4 in remission for 44 months on Zytiga, with all the help from above!

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Heck ya!

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" Most patients of bone metastases prostate cancer can only survive for around 19 to 21 months after diagnosis".

That's a rather absurd statement...

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yes I agree, I am absurdly in remission DX 5 1/2 years ago, psa is undetectable!~

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With all due respect, (thanks for posting) this data is older than moldy bread that's been sitting on a shelve for a month.

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Lol!!!

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The world I live in now doesn't have survival statistics.

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There are no percentages involved with being alive. If you are alive, you are at 100%. I can not experience anything except 100%, therefore nothing else is relevant. Living is binary, either a 1 or a 0.

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Very good comment! First, I believe that statistics are parameters for specialists. The sick do not have individual statistics.

Second, the statistics are not static and are evolving every day.

Each cancer is individual, each patient is unique.

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Well said

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I am 10 years beyond this survival statistic.

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Dan, can I have of some of your statistics please?

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Dan

What and when was your diagnosis?

Are you metastatic castrate resistant prostate cancer?

Do you have bone Mets?

Were you diagnosed stage 4 Gleason 9?

Looking for hope in our situation.

There is always hope!

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You can get my stats by clicking on my profile, but yes, In June of 2006, I was diagnosed Stage 4,Bpsa 148, Gleason 10(confirmed at J Hopkins by J Epstien) widespread metastatic disease to bone in distant sites ,and to lymph nodes in distant sites. I am currently on Jevtana chemo.By the technical language, I have been castrate resistant for over a decade, or maybe the whole time since my psa nadir(lowpoint) was 2.9 for 1 month. There has beed a paradigm shift in the way they treat this disease since I was diagnosed , and a lot. More in the pipeline now. I wish you the best.

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I am stage 4 metatasis to some bones , was diagnosed two years ago, psa 11 Gleason 9. Been on a vegan diet, still some cocktails cannabis oil, my psa went to 24 a year ago was stable at 24 till a month ago now it's at 135, fs starting casadex then lupron and , Zytiga. Will be 69 in July , have a supra pubic catheter in my bladder now for four months, still sexually active, but guess that's over with ! Been more of a mental challenge to me, still not much pain physically, lost 40 lbs on the diet, used to ride my bike 40 miles a week before all this started, always been in good shape , most people think I'm in my 50's! Oh well any input or critiques ?

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You are my hero, going great and giving hope to all

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The published statistics you find on the internet tend to be obsolete and they predate the adoption of many current treatments. PCa treatment is evolving rapidly, so survival times are presumably increasing rapidly.

I think we all want to know at some level what our chances are, but those numbers are essentially unknown now. My guess, not based on anything other than anecdotal evidence, is that PCa has a high variance between individuals in survival times.

I asked my urologist how long I had, and he said, “with some luck, indefinitely.” Asked my MO the same question, and without hesitation he said 4 years. I now have a different oncologist.

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This may sound shallow but I am a planner. I wanted an estimate of his lifespan to plan for retirement. He would have been happiest to work until he dropped as staying busy helps him to forget. But I wanted to have some time to enjoy what we worked and saved for while Still able.

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It's a good to have some rough idea for general planning as you say, that's important. I cut down my work and moved into retirement after stage 4 diagnosis. It just makes sense to do that because we don't know. I also filed and received my Social Security Disability and will have Medicare in around 1-1/2 years. I think you can make reasonable preparations without focusing on how long you will survive. A lot of the things we need to do anyway because nobody really knows how long they have. As cancer patients, we are just more aware of it.

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I’m still working, in a high demand job. Luckily my position allowed me to take time off as needed during my chemo. What scares me the most right now is the loss of cognitive function that I keep reading is part of ADT. Life expectancy is not as important to me as life quality. Right now I feel good, but I fear the future while at the same time i’m Excited about advances in treatment. That’s complicated, but it is a whole lot better than living through a death countdown.

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Yah! F### a countdown. Morgan Freeman , Shawshank redemption said “ either get busy livin, or get busy dieing “ ... only guarantees in the US are death and taxes. In fact APC and Taxes are kin...both bad dinner topics... keep canoeing...

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The shadow knows!

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Greg, unless you have private insurance, you are eligible for Medicare if you are on Social Security Disability. Get the benefit that you worked for and deserve. Please talk to a Social Security counselor.

Good Luck, Rich

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That’s sad . I’m sorry. While still able is a phrase that all of us including myself that are still able need to take heart. Thanks.

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I've been on Lupron for 11 years last 6 months added Zitiga==I'm 85. except for mild short term memory problems (probably due mostly to age) I have no cognitive effects that I or anyone close to me have noticed--I work on our investments a couple of hours a day and the results have been pretty good. So don''''''''''''t worry.

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I second that on the cognitive function loss with ADT. It's no more than normal aging for me. I can still repair difficult linear accelerator (radiation treatment machine) problems that other technicians need help with.

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Very good! Thank you...

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This article is outdated and inaccurate, thankfully. And poorly written, so I have to wonder about its legitimacy in general.

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I want stage 4 to be 100%.

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hmmm...I've been thinking about some of the comments on here. The article was too depressing to read...and it suddenly occurred to me....that possibly people with Stage 4 are surviving longer....is because they are figuring it out earlier....meaning they are living about the same amount of time...but they find out earlier....OUCH. I'm thinking this...because NOTHING showed up on my pet scan and my bone scans....until I did the NEWER just approved Axumin Pet Scan....Then, suddenly I had stage 4. If the testing had been all of the old kind...I would have waited longer to find out the "bad news"...and hence I would live "less longer" after diagnosis? just thinking? I wonder which one would prefer..."to know, or not to know"..~~that is the question...LOL.

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I agree...bone scan and cat scan done on 11/5/17 showed everything clear axumin pet scan done one week later Nov.11,2017 showed mets in bones and pelvic area.. Started chemo Dec.5/2017 ..psa now .020...loupron and casodex started on Nov.23 ,2017. PSA was raising 1 point a week where would we be at now without the new information.

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I think you are right that in many cases with PCa, finding out earlier just means being under treatment longer. The biology of your PCa is a big part of how long you live.

It's a bit harder in some ways to live with "the knowledge". But in other ways it gives you certain freedoms. I don't care about some things that used to take away from my quality life.

In the end, we are going to live exactly as long as we are going to live. I wonder how many of us here even thought about that before we got this disease. I know I didn't.

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Me either!

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Good Luck and Good Health.

j-o-h-n Saturday 03/24/2018 1:08 PM EDT

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This article actually makes me sick. Why put it on here. I don't need it.

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I agree. We all know the deal. Why remind yourself and ruin the quality of life you have? I can't live life to the fullest when I'm thinking about dying.

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Factual....very true.. it’s that stage #4 metastatic that’s the bitch...to,survive...

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If that is your stage, you should still go for 5 or 10 years in your assessment. Good doctors, treatments, drugs, and keeping up on the research and being a member of the health team will aid you in this effort.

Go for the long haul.

Rich

PS: A spontaneous remission could even give you more years.

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Have any of you tried dandelion tea as a treatment

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I have it on occasion as an effective liver detox and it may have anti cancer benefits as well. It wouldn't hurt to use it along with your other treatments.

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Thank you. I had heard from a Canadian friend that it was good ,need to talk to doctor to make sure it won’t affect the Xtandi. Willing to try about anything. Besides I can get the dandelions out of my yard 😜😜😜😜

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I wonder about dandelion wine?

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That’s a idea 😜😜😜😜😜

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To be clear for those new to this , in order to be considered Stage 3 prostate cancer, that has spread, the spread is limited to organs in direct contact or very close proximity to the prostate tumor (urethral sphincter, bladder, pelvic wall and/or rectum) and/or Grade 5 cancer. Spread to other organs, bones and/or lymph nodes is Stage 4. See attached link cancer.org/cancer/prostate-...

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